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[keep-it-cool]

"What the IPL did was to debunk some myths and the biggest of them all was about the infallibility of the Australian coaches. The franchise owners are not fools and unless they have an inferiority complex they will soon be issuing pink notices to most if not all these freeloaders masquerading as consultants or cricket officers or some such fancy designations."

-Sunil Gavaskar


Coaches in the IPL

Semi-finalists

Rajasthan Royals - Shane Warne, Darren Berry - Australian
Chennai SuperKings - Keppler Wessels - South African - played test cricket for Australia
Kings XI Punjab - Tom Moody - Australian
Delhi Daredevils - Greg Shipperd - Australian

The Also Rans

Mumbai Indians - Lalchand Rajput - Indian
Kolkatta Knightriders - John Buchanan - Australian
Bangalore Royal Challengers - Venkatesh Prasad - Indian
Deccan Chargers - Robin Singh - Indian

Hmmm

[Cover Point]

As a great man of our DG said 'when  you are  driven by hate'. Did not know he was referring to the other opener

[Blwe_torch]

He might have hinted at the celebrated Aussie coach Buchanan........and Gilchrist ( for his role as opener and free-lance cricket consultant).

[keep-it-cool]

Yeah yeah ..he may have, would have, could have ..etc etc. But he didnt. He just said what he wanted to say without even knowing what he was saying.

[Cover Point]

Yeah yeah ..he may have, would have, could have ..etc etc. But he didnt. He just said what he wanted to say without even knowing what he was saying.

exactlyu ... thus the thing about being driven by hate

[Blwe_torch]

Being driven by hate is not an Indian trait...even the Aussies resort to it....GC for example.

[kban1]

Yeah yeah ..he may have, would have, could have ..etc etc. But he didnt. He just said what he wanted to say without even knowing what he was saying.

exactlyu ... thus the thing about being driven by hate

Looking at the mirror lately eh ?   

[keep-it-cool]

Being driven by hate is not an Indian trait...even the Aussies resort to it....GC for example.

hello... dont get "indian" into it ... this is just SMG

and i dont know about hate ... but he really comes across as dumb and ill informed here

[Cernunnos]

"What the IPL did was to debunk some myths and the biggest of them all was about the infallibility of the Australian coaches. The franchise owners are not fools and unless they have an inferiority complex they will soon be issuing pink notices to most if not all these freeloaders masquerading as consultants or cricket officers or some such fancy designations."

-Sunil Gavaskar


Coaches in the IPL

Semi-finalists

Rajasthan Royals - Shane Warne, Darren Berry - Australian
Chennai SuperKings - Keppler Wessels - South African - played test cricket for Australia
Kings XI Punjab - Tom Moody - Australian
Delhi Daredevils - Greg Shipperd - Australian

Of course, it is clear that SMG is using the example of Shane Warne as the anti-"consultant coach",
but trust you to include him in your list.

What you conveniently snipped:
"Shane Warne has gone on record a record number of times that coaches are not needed at the international level and maybe that is why he was so keen to lead from the front and show that without a coach his team could win the DLF IPL even though they were not given much of a chance by the experts. He [Warne] had also said pointedly at media conferences that his team uses brains and not computers in an obvious reference to the coach who made the use of the laptop as his usp."


SMG also refers to this consultant, most likely Dennis Lillee, which you conveniently snipped to distort SMG's point of view:

"One consultant who had a cushy contract which let him fly in and out of India came down for the semi finals and after the game when his team was mourning he was having a laugh and a drink with officials from his country probably telling them what suckers he had made out of the franchise owners with his deal of flying in and out for a few days for his 'consultancy."

SMG is against this blind belief that an Australian "consultant" is an elixir for glory. Yes he takes an extreme position, but he also has a point. And he has made it well by referring to Shane Warne, this unnamed "consultant" and of course Buchanan.

[Blwe_torch]

Being driven by hate is not an Indian trait...even the Aussies resort to it....GC for example.

hello... dont get "indian" into it ... this is just SMG

and i dont know about hate ... but he really comes across as dumb and ill informed here

so?
even you come across as dumb and ill informed at times.....and may be, so do i.
And that too in an online DG...where we can change and edit our responses...and even back-up our responses with background research/ search, etc........and we have time too....
SMG never appears dumb in the commentary box...infact he is quite sharp witted...only once in a while he can be flippant in his remarks.........which can be excused. We are proud of SMG ...and I appreciate the fact that the Aussies normally don't mess with him.

[Libran]

I can't understand this...

If SMG comments on Aussies...it is hate and being dumb
If someone comments on SMG, he is being forthright and sensible...

Beats me...

If PP with negligible to negative knowledge on cricket can pass comments, why can't a proven cricketer like SMG...
If Mike Selvey can throw around crap laden writing, why is SMG being targeted... atleast SMG is not quoting sources or pussy footing on issues

[Blwe_torch]

I can't understand this...

If SMG comments on Aussies...it is hate and being dumb
If someone comments on SMG, he is being forthright and sensible...

Beats me...

If PP with negligible to negative knowledge on cricket can pass comments, why can't a proven cricketer like SMG...
If Mike Selvey can throw around crap laden writing, why is SMG being targeted... atleast SMG is not quoting sources or pussy footing on issues

This ..you will never understand sir....................this is a deep-rooted mystery.

[mm]

Nothing wrong with what Gavi is saying people .... I don't think he is referring to Buchannan, Wessels, Warne or any of the coaches but is instead referring to the several other firangi's who were around running in with energy drinks, mental conditioning coaches, leg specialists, elbow specialists, thigh specialists and others. 

I personally think it is good to have these people around so at least some of the techniques and work ethic will rub off on the local experts and wannabe coaches.

[keep-it-cool]

"What the IPL did was to debunk some myths and the biggest of them all was about the infallibility of the Australian coaches. The franchise owners are not fools and unless they have an inferiority complex they will soon be issuing pink notices to most if not all these freeloaders masquerading as consultants or cricket officers or some such fancy designations."

-Sunil Gavaskar


Coaches in the IPL

Semi-finalists

Rajasthan Royals - Shane Warne, Darren Berry - Australian
Chennai SuperKings - Keppler Wessels - South African - played test cricket for Australia
Kings XI Punjab - Tom Moody - Australian
Delhi Daredevils - Greg Shipperd - Australian

Of course, it is clear that SMG is using the example of Shane Warne as the anti-"consultant coach",
but trust you to include him in your list.

What you conveniently snipped:
"Shane Warne has gone on record a record number of times that coaches are not needed at the international level and maybe that is why he was so keen to lead from the front and show that without a coach his team could win the DLF IPL even though they were not given much of a chance by the experts. He [Warne] had also said pointedly at media conferences that his team uses brains and not computers in an obvious reference to the coach who made the use of the laptop as his usp."


SMG also refers to this consultant, most likely Dennis Lillee, which you conveniently snipped to distort SMG's point of view:

"One consultant who had a cushy contract which let him fly in and out of India came down for the semi finals and after the game when his team was mourning he was having a laugh and a drink with officials from his country probably telling them what suckers he had made out of the franchise owners with his deal of flying in and out for a few days for his 'consultancy."

SMG is against this blind belief that an Australian "consultant" is an elixir for glory. Yes he takes an extreme position, but he also has a point. And he has made it well by referring to Shane Warne, this unnamed "consultant" and of course Buchanan.

I havent - conveniently or otherwise - snipped anything. Just posted SMG's quote as it appeared on CI's quotes section.

So, how does anything debunk the "myth" about Australian coaches? All four semi-finalists have Australian coaches. Three out of the four failed teams have Indian coaches. If at all any conclusion can be drawn - and, I am not drawing one, SMG is - it has to be the other way around.

Incidentally, besides Shane Warne (who incidentally is a coach after all), Rajasthan also had Darren Berry, who was "Director of Coaching", Jeremy Snape, who was Performance Coach and Harish Joshi who was Assistant Coach and Mohsin Sheikh, who is a Performance Analyst - if that is not a coaching team (with Australians as head coach and director of coaching), with some fancy designations thrown in, then I dont know what is.

SMG may have a point that everything Australian is not good. He may also have a point that some people dont deliver what they are paid off. But, this is a poor poor example to use to make that point - especially, given that there are a lot (actually more in number) of non Australian failures around. He just sounds completely stupid and like a stuck record here.

[keep-it-cool]

Nothing wrong with what Gavi is saying people .... I don't think he is referring to Buchannan, Wessels, Warne or any of the coaches but is instead referring to the several other firangi's who were around running in with energy drinks, mental conditioning coaches, leg specialists, elbow specialists, thigh specialists and others. 

I personally think it is good to have these people around so at least some of the techniques and work ethic will rub off on the local experts and wannabe coaches.

In that case, why say Australian? Unless his view is that all these specialists are fine as long as they are non Australian!

[keep-it-cool]

Being driven by hate is not an Indian trait...even the Aussies resort to it....GC for example.

hello... dont get "indian" into it ... this is just SMG

and i dont know about hate ... but he really comes across as dumb and ill informed here

so?
even you come across as dumb and ill informed at times.....and may be, so do i.
And that too in an online DG...where we can change and edit our responses...and even back-up our responses with background research/ search, etc........and we have time too....
SMG never appears dumb in the commentary box...infact he is quite sharp witted...only once in a while he can be flippant in his remarks.........which can be excused. We are proud of SMG ...and I appreciate the fact that the Aussies normally don't mess with him.

i am sure all of us do ... this is one instance where SMG does as well

[keep-it-cool]

I can't understand this...

If SMG comments on Aussies...it is hate and being dumb
If someone comments on SMG, he is being forthright and sensible...

Beats me...

If PP with negligible to negative knowledge on cricket can pass comments, why can't a proven cricketer like SMG...
If Mike Selvey can throw around crap laden writing, why is SMG being targeted... atleast SMG is not quoting sources or pussy footing on issues

sounds sort of like ...

if my neighbour can litter on the roads, why cant i

if 50% of the class failed, what is wrong if i did as well

if everyone gives bribes, why cant i

[Libran]

I can't understand this...

If SMG comments on Aussies...it is hate and being dumb
If someone comments on SMG, he is being forthright and sensible...

Beats me...

If PP with negligible to negative knowledge on cricket can pass comments, why can't a proven cricketer like SMG...
If Mike Selvey can throw around crap laden writing, why is SMG being targeted... atleast SMG is not quoting sources or pussy footing on issues

sounds sort of like ...

if my neighbour can litter on the roads, why cant i

if 50% of the class failed, what is wrong if i did as well

if everyone gives bribes, why cant i

Exactly...

everybody is after SMG...why can't I

lot of people think Aussies are the best in everything they do...why can't I think the same way

[keep-it-cool]

I can't understand this...

If SMG comments on Aussies...it is hate and being dumb
If someone comments on SMG, he is being forthright and sensible...

Beats me...

If PP with negligible to negative knowledge on cricket can pass comments, why can't a proven cricketer like SMG...
If Mike Selvey can throw around crap laden writing, why is SMG being targeted... atleast SMG is not quoting sources or pussy footing on issues

sounds sort of like ...

if my neighbour can litter on the roads, why cant i

if 50% of the class failed, what is wrong if i did as well

if everyone gives bribes, why cant i

Exactly...

everybody is after SMG...why can't I

lot of people think Aussies are the best in everything they do...why can't I think the same way

Why not indeed? As long as there are valid reasons doing / thinking the same!

[Cernunnos]

"What the IPL did was to debunk some myths and the biggest of them all was about the infallibility of the Australian coaches. The franchise owners are not fools and unless they have an inferiority complex they will soon be issuing pink notices to most if not all these freeloaders masquerading as consultants or cricket officers or some such fancy designations."

-Sunil Gavaskar


Coaches in the IPL

Semi-finalists

Rajasthan Royals - Shane Warne, Darren Berry - Australian
Chennai SuperKings - Keppler Wessels - South African - played test cricket for Australia
Kings XI Punjab - Tom Moody - Australian
Delhi Daredevils - Greg Shipperd - Australian

Of course, it is clear that SMG is using the example of Shane Warne as the anti-"consultant coach",
but trust you to include him in your list.

What you conveniently snipped:
"Shane Warne has gone on record a record number of times that coaches are not needed at the international level and maybe that is why he was so keen to lead from the front and show that without a coach his team could win the DLF IPL even though they were not given much of a chance by the experts. He [Warne] had also said pointedly at media conferences that his team uses brains and not computers in an obvious reference to the coach who made the use of the laptop as his usp."


SMG also refers to this consultant, most likely Dennis Lillee, which you conveniently snipped to distort SMG's point of view:

"One consultant who had a cushy contract which let him fly in and out of India came down for the semi finals and after the game when his team was mourning he was having a laugh and a drink with officials from his country probably telling them what suckers he had made out of the franchise owners with his deal of flying in and out for a few days for his 'consultancy."

SMG is against this blind belief that an Australian "consultant" is an elixir for glory. Yes he takes an extreme position, but he also has a point. And he has made it well by referring to Shane Warne, this unnamed "consultant" and of course Buchanan.

I havent - conveniently or otherwise - snipped anything. Just posted SMG's quote as it appeared on CI's quotes section.

Which shows how crookinfo is upto it's old tricks, juxtaposing two sentences in opposite ends of a paragraph and making it a quote!

So, how does anything debunk the "myth" about Australian coaches? All four semi-finalists have Australian coaches. Three out of the four failed teams have Indian coaches. If at all any conclusion can be drawn - and, I am not drawing one, SMG is - it has to be the other way around.

The point here is he is also attacking the fly-by-night consultants of the semi-finalists also! That's clear from the part crookinfo snippped. He is not attacking coaches, but 1) the freeloaders who have a few sessions with the team and 2) the mumbo-jumbo philosophy coaches. Warne is the very antithesis of that and SMG uses him as an example of what it should be like.

Incidentally, besides Shane Warne (who incidentally is a coach after all), Rajasthan also had Darren Berry, who was "Director of Coaching", Jeremy Snape, who was Performance Coach and Harish Joshi who was Assistant Coach and Mohsin Sheikh, who is a Performance Analyst - if that is not a coaching team (with Australians as head coach and director of coaching), with some fancy designations thrown in, then I dont know what is.

SMG was never against having a staff. In that very article he writes:
"A top fielding coach and a great fitness trainer is all that is needed and also a manager who will not be afraid to wield the stick as far as team discipline is concerned. "

SMG may have a point that everything Australian is not good. He may also have a point that some people dont deliver what they are paid off. But, this is a poor poor example to use to make that point - especially, given that there are a lot (actually more in number) of non Australian failures around. He just sounds completely stupid and like a stuck record here.

I never denied he took an extreme position. All I'm saying is if you read his comments in the entire context, his comments will make more sense than what they seem.

[kban1]

"What the IPL did was to debunk some myths and the biggest of them all was about the infallibility of the Australian coaches. The franchise owners are not fools and unless they have an inferiority complex they will soon be issuing pink notices to most if not all these freeloaders masquerading as consultants or cricket officers or some such fancy designations."

-Sunil Gavaskar


Coaches in the IPL

Semi-finalists

Rajasthan Royals - Shane Warne, Darren Berry - Australian
Chennai SuperKings - Keppler Wessels - South African - played test cricket for Australia
Kings XI Punjab - Tom Moody - Australian
Delhi Daredevils - Greg Shipperd - Australian

Of course, it is clear that SMG is using the example of Shane Warne as the anti-"consultant coach",
but trust you to include him in your list.

What you conveniently snipped:
"Shane Warne has gone on record a record number of times that coaches are not needed at the international level and maybe that is why he was so keen to lead from the front and show that without a coach his team could win the DLF IPL even though they were not given much of a chance by the experts. He [Warne] had also said pointedly at media conferences that his team uses brains and not computers in an obvious reference to the coach who made the use of the laptop as his usp."


SMG also refers to this consultant, most likely Dennis Lillee, which you conveniently snipped to distort SMG's point of view:

"One consultant who had a cushy contract which let him fly in and out of India came down for the semi finals and after the game when his team was mourning he was having a laugh and a drink with officials from his country probably telling them what suckers he had made out of the franchise owners with his deal of flying in and out for a few days for his 'consultancy."

SMG is against this blind belief that an Australian "consultant" is an elixir for glory. Yes he takes an extreme position, but he also has a point. And he has made it well by referring to Shane Warne, this unnamed "consultant" and of course Buchanan.

I havent - conveniently or otherwise - snipped anything. Just posted SMG's quote as it appeared on CI's quotes section.

Which shows how crookinfo is upto it's old tricks, juxtaposing two sentences in opposite ends of a paragraph and making it a quote!

So, how does anything debunk the "myth" about Australian coaches? All four semi-finalists have Australian coaches. Three out of the four failed teams have Indian coaches. If at all any conclusion can be drawn - and, I am not drawing one, SMG is - it has to be the other way around.

The point here is he is also attacking the fly-by-night consultants of the semi-finalists also! That's clear from the part crookinfo snippped. He is not attacking coaches, but 1) the freeloaders who have a few sessions with the team and 2) the mumbo-jumbo philosophy coaches. Warne is the very antithesis of that and SMG uses him as an example of what it should be like.

Incidentally, besides Shane Warne (who incidentally is a coach after all), Rajasthan also had Darren Berry, who was "Director of Coaching", Jeremy Snape, who was Performance Coach and Harish Joshi who was Assistant Coach and Mohsin Sheikh, who is a Performance Analyst - if that is not a coaching team (with Australians as head coach and director of coaching), with some fancy designations thrown in, then I dont know what is.

SMG was never against having a staff. In that very article he writes:
"A top fielding coach and a great fitness trainer is all that is needed and also a manager who will not be afraid to wield the stick as far as team discipline is concerned. "

SMG may have a point that everything Australian is not good. He may also have a point that some people dont deliver what they are paid off. But, this is a poor poor example to use to make that point - especially, given that there are a lot (actually more in number) of non Australian failures around. He just sounds completely stupid and like a stuck record here.

I never denied he took an extreme position. All I'm saying is if you read his comments in the entire context, his comments will make more sense than what they seem.

Thank you Cernunnos for putting this in perspective.

Your comment about Crookinfo's shenanigans is even more on the money when you consider this:

Directly from the Cricinfo comment site (Pay attention to cricinfo's editorial spin on the actual quote -- have highlighted that in red)

"What the IPL did was to debunk some myths and the biggest of them all was about the infallibility of the Australian coaches. The franchise owners are not fools and unless they have an inferiority complex they will soon be issuing pink notices to most if not all these freeloaders masquerading as consultants or cricket officers or some such fancy designations." -- SMG

Sunil Gavaskar offers some blunt views on the bloated backroom staff, but seems to have forgotten that the winning team was coached by an Australian

A clear misrepresentation of his views given that he endorsed Warne's view. Cricinfo here is using the fact that Warne led & coached RR to actually poke fun at him, which of course is gobbled up en masse by CI's readership.

A more appropriate tiltle for this thread would be "Cricinfo and the art of sham editorialism"

[Cernunnos]

"What the IPL did was to debunk some myths and the biggest of them all was about the infallibility of the Australian coaches. The franchise owners are not fools and unless they have an inferiority complex they will soon be issuing pink notices to most if not all these freeloaders masquerading as consultants or cricket officers or some such fancy designations."

-Sunil Gavaskar


Coaches in the IPL

Semi-finalists

Rajasthan Royals - Shane Warne, Darren Berry - Australian
Chennai SuperKings - Keppler Wessels - South African - played test cricket for Australia
Kings XI Punjab - Tom Moody - Australian
Delhi Daredevils - Greg Shipperd - Australian

Of course, it is clear that SMG is using the example of Shane Warne as the anti-"consultant coach",
but trust you to include him in your list.

What you conveniently snipped:
"Shane Warne has gone on record a record number of times that coaches are not needed at the international level and maybe that is why he was so keen to lead from the front and show that without a coach his team could win the DLF IPL even though they were not given much of a chance by the experts. He [Warne] had also said pointedly at media conferences that his team uses brains and not computers in an obvious reference to the coach who made the use of the laptop as his usp."


SMG also refers to this consultant, most likely Dennis Lillee, which you conveniently snipped to distort SMG's point of view:

"One consultant who had a cushy contract which let him fly in and out of India came down for the semi finals and after the game when his team was mourning he was having a laugh and a drink with officials from his country probably telling them what suckers he had made out of the franchise owners with his deal of flying in and out for a few days for his 'consultancy."

SMG is against this blind belief that an Australian "consultant" is an elixir for glory. Yes he takes an extreme position, but he also has a point. And he has made it well by referring to Shane Warne, this unnamed "consultant" and of course Buchanan.

I havent - conveniently or otherwise - snipped anything. Just posted SMG's quote as it appeared on CI's quotes section.

Which shows how crookinfo is upto it's old tricks, juxtaposing two sentences in opposite ends of a paragraph and making it a quote!

So, how does anything debunk the "myth" about Australian coaches? All four semi-finalists have Australian coaches. Three out of the four failed teams have Indian coaches. If at all any conclusion can be drawn - and, I am not drawing one, SMG is - it has to be the other way around.

The point here is he is also attacking the fly-by-night consultants of the semi-finalists also! That's clear from the part crookinfo snippped. He is not attacking coaches, but 1) the freeloaders who have a few sessions with the team and 2) the mumbo-jumbo philosophy coaches. Warne is the very antithesis of that and SMG uses him as an example of what it should be like.

Incidentally, besides Shane Warne (who incidentally is a coach after all), Rajasthan also had Darren Berry, who was "Director of Coaching", Jeremy Snape, who was Performance Coach and Harish Joshi who was Assistant Coach and Mohsin Sheikh, who is a Performance Analyst - if that is not a coaching team (with Australians as head coach and director of coaching), with some fancy designations thrown in, then I dont know what is.

SMG was never against having a staff. In that very article he writes:
"A top fielding coach and a great fitness trainer is all that is needed and also a manager who will not be afraid to wield the stick as far as team discipline is concerned. "

SMG may have a point that everything Australian is not good. He may also have a point that some people dont deliver what they are paid off. But, this is a poor poor example to use to make that point - especially, given that there are a lot (actually more in number) of non Australian failures around. He just sounds completely stupid and like a stuck record here.

I never denied he took an extreme position. All I'm saying is if you read his comments in the entire context, his comments will make more sense than what they seem.

Thank you Cernunnos for putting this in perspective.

Your comment about Crookinfo's shenanigans is even more on the money when you consider this:

Directly from the Cricinfo comment site (Pay attention to cricinfo's editorial spin on the actual quote -- have highlighted that in red)

"What the IPL did was to debunk some myths and the biggest of them all was about the infallibility of the Australian coaches. The franchise owners are not fools and unless they have an inferiority complex they will soon be issuing pink notices to most if not all these freeloaders masquerading as consultants or cricket officers or some such fancy designations." -- SMG

Sunil Gavaskar offers some blunt views on the bloated backroom staff, but seems to have forgotten that the winning team was coached by an Australian

A clear misrepresentation of his views given that he endorsed Warne's view. Cricinfo here is using the fact that Warne led & coached RR to actually poke fun at him, which of course is gobbled up en masse by CI's readership.

A more appropriate tiltle for this thread would be "Cricinfo and the art of sham editorialism"

Thanks kban1, I didn't bother to check the crookedit, but only the real article. SMG himself takes Shane Warne's name right after the first sentence in that quote.

Crookinfo is a disgrace.

[keep-it-cool]

"What the IPL did was to debunk some myths and the biggest of them all was about the infallibility of the Australian coaches. The franchise owners are not fools and unless they have an inferiority complex they will soon be issuing pink notices to most if not all these freeloaders masquerading as consultants or cricket officers or some such fancy designations."

-Sunil Gavaskar


Coaches in the IPL

Semi-finalists

Rajasthan Royals - Shane Warne, Darren Berry - Australian
Chennai SuperKings - Keppler Wessels - South African - played test cricket for Australia
Kings XI Punjab - Tom Moody - Australian
Delhi Daredevils - Greg Shipperd - Australian

Of course, it is clear that SMG is using the example of Shane Warne as the anti-"consultant coach",
but trust you to include him in your list.

What you conveniently snipped:
"Shane Warne has gone on record a record number of times that coaches are not needed at the international level and maybe that is why he was so keen to lead from the front and show that without a coach his team could win the DLF IPL even though they were not given much of a chance by the experts. He [Warne] had also said pointedly at media conferences that his team uses brains and not computers in an obvious reference to the coach who made the use of the laptop as his usp."


SMG also refers to this consultant, most likely Dennis Lillee, which you conveniently snipped to distort SMG's point of view:

"One consultant who had a cushy contract which let him fly in and out of India came down for the semi finals and after the game when his team was mourning he was having a laugh and a drink with officials from his country probably telling them what suckers he had made out of the franchise owners with his deal of flying in and out for a few days for his 'consultancy."

SMG is against this blind belief that an Australian "consultant" is an elixir for glory. Yes he takes an extreme position, but he also has a point. And he has made it well by referring to Shane Warne, this unnamed "consultant" and of course Buchanan.

I havent - conveniently or otherwise - snipped anything. Just posted SMG's quote as it appeared on CI's quotes section.

Which shows how crookinfo is upto it's old tricks, juxtaposing two sentences in opposite ends of a paragraph and making it a quote!

So, how does anything debunk the "myth" about Australian coaches? All four semi-finalists have Australian coaches. Three out of the four failed teams have Indian coaches. If at all any conclusion can be drawn - and, I am not drawing one, SMG is - it has to be the other way around.

The point here is he is also attacking the fly-by-night consultants of the semi-finalists also! That's clear from the part crookinfo snippped. He is not attacking coaches, but 1) the freeloaders who have a few sessions with the team and 2) the mumbo-jumbo philosophy coaches. Warne is the very antithesis of that and SMG uses him as an example of what it should be like.

Incidentally, besides Shane Warne (who incidentally is a coach after all), Rajasthan also had Darren Berry, who was "Director of Coaching", Jeremy Snape, who was Performance Coach and Harish Joshi who was Assistant Coach and Mohsin Sheikh, who is a Performance Analyst - if that is not a coaching team (with Australians as head coach and director of coaching), with some fancy designations thrown in, then I dont know what is.

SMG was never against having a staff. In that very article he writes:
"A top fielding coach and a great fitness trainer is all that is needed and also a manager who will not be afraid to wield the stick as far as team discipline is concerned. "

SMG may have a point that everything Australian is not good. He may also have a point that some people dont deliver what they are paid off. But, this is a poor poor example to use to make that point - especially, given that there are a lot (actually more in number) of non Australian failures around. He just sounds completely stupid and like a stuck record here.

I never denied he took an extreme position. All I'm saying is if you read his comments in the entire context, his comments will make more sense than what they seem.

Not to belabour the point or support Cricinfo .. even if one takes into account that SMG does not include coaches in the list of people he does not like what is the fixation with "Australian"? Is it only Australian consultants or performance coaches etc etc who are freeloaders according to him? What about the non laptop likes of Venkatesh Prasad and Robin Singh and Lalchand Rajput (the latter actually ascribed Mumbai's loss to Rajasthan to bad luck!!). Are consultants etc fine if they are non Australian?

SMG may want to make a point but it would be much better if he tries to choose the right examples - otherwise, he just leaves himself open to ridicule.