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Shoaib-Ishant Vs SRT-Jayasuriay

Hopefully it will be a cracker

Early news from KKR as per ABP

Chopra/Iqbal/Taibu probably will be replaced by Das/Agarkar/Hafeez.Focus definitely is to improve batting.Fifth bowler role to be taken by LRS and SG

Also it seems Clarke is joining back in Aussie camp,Hodge might come back to KKR,though not this week for sure
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I think they should replace Abdullah with Hafeez and keep Taibu. Agarkar is useless anuway.
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I think they should replace Abdullah with Hafeez and keep Taibu. Agarkar is useless anuway.

maybe the thought process is Agarkar can do well in home ground  ;D
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i think Gul should play.
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i think Gul should play.
It would be good to have:

Butt
Akash/Hafeez (because no other batsman)
Ganguly
Das
Saha
Shukla
Hussey
Ishant
Shoaib
Gul
Dinda

It would be a fantastic pace attack.  Unfortunately, there is no batsman to play.
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i think Gul should play.
It would be good to have:

Butt
Akash/Hafeez (because no other batsman)
Ganguly
Das
Saha
Shukla
Hussey
Ishant
Shoaib
Gul
Dinda

It would be a fantastic pace attack.  Unfortunately, there is no batsman to play.
Saha needs to bat up th eorder.. 1, 2 or 3
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From newspaper reports, it seems KKR are mulling 3 changes in their lineup against Mumbai : Debabrata for Chopra, Hafeez for Taibu and Agarkar for Abdullah. I somehow feel that would not be a wise move, particularly bringing in Hafeez and Agarkar. I would rather have Gul come into the team in place of Taibu and Debabrata in place of Chopra. That would make KKR bowling really lethal. Saha should open along with Butt, and Debabrata come after Laxmi.
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dicey changes..................agarkar, debabrata das...............and Hafeez?!!!...........non-performers all...............DD is promising but lacks the temperament as yet.
I wish they drafted in Umar Gul...............in place of Taibu and not Hafeez.
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From newspaper reports, it seems KKR are mulling 3 changes in their lineup against Mumbai : Debabrata for Chopra, Hafeez for Taibu and Agarkar for Abdullah. I somehow feel that would not be a wise move, particularly bringing in Hafeez and Agarkar. I would rather have Gul come into the team in place of Taibu and Debabrata in place of Chopra. That would make KKR bowling really lethal. Saha should open along with Butt, and Debabrata come after Laxmi.

I am still okay with the first two.. hafeez is another bowling option even if he has been leaking a few... but AA for Abdullah is  :-[   ...   unless there is a feel that AA will want to prove a point to his fellow Mumbaiyyas 

Replace Abdullah with Karthik or make no further changes...
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the news item in the bengali paper has appeared in such a way.........like they are planning a strategy against the rampaging Jayasurya.........and hence these 3 changes.
I am curious to know abt the hidden strengths of Agarkar and Hafeez. I have heard a lot abt Hafeez's all-round abilities...but the guy is not in great form obviously.............so how can he be effective?!
Agarkar, we all know.........
Das can be useful only in the end...to score a few quick runs...............at the top order, he will flash around and we'll end up losing wickets very early.
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If they are contemplating changing Taibu, which I feel is not necessary.............they shld bring in Gul......
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Go with a winning combo....

Why plan only for SJ?   not a good thing to do...he is done with his quota for the week...
Plan for SRT and Abhishek Nayar... Uthappa should not be a difficult one to prise out for Dinda....

Beyond this...there is no batting left for Mumbai... Bravo is back home... Polllock could be dangerous...but then everybody is on their given day...

Will be a good match... and with Mumbai having delivered the first punch...let's what is in store
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the news item in the bengali paper has appeared in such a way.........like they are planning a strategy against the rampaging Jayasurya.........and hence these 3 changes.
I am curious to know abt the hidden strengths of Agarkar and Hafeez. I have heard a lot abt Hafeez's all-round abilities...but the guy is not in great form obviously.............so how can he be effective?!
Agarkar, we all know.........
Das can be useful only in the end...to score a few quick runs...............at the top order, he will flash around and we'll end up losing wickets very early.

The hidden strength of Agarkar is he makes the opposition overconfident. So the one good ball he *may* deliver is more likely to get a wicket. That the other five are hit for many runs is a given.


 
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What is it about Aussies that they have such weird ideas? In which universe is Aakash Chopra a T20 opener, as Buchanan seems to think? If he has to play he should come in when a collapse happens.
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What is it about Aussies that they have such weird ideas? In which universe is Aakash Chopra a T20 opener, as Buchanan seems to think? If he has to play he should come in when a collapse happens.

Given the fact that SG is a tad superstitous as times, there might an outside chance that Chopra might be retained in the pretext of winning combo....but honestly, he doesn't belong to this format....I think das shud be inducted in Chopra's place and bring Taibu as an opener ....
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What is it about Aussies that they have such weird ideas? In which universe is Aakash Chopra a T20 opener, as Buchanan seems to think? If he has to play he should come in when a collapse happens.

Given the fact that SG is a tad superstitous as times, there might an outside chance that Chopra might be retained in the pretext of winning combo....but honestly, he doesn't belong to this format....I think das shud be inducted in Chopra's place and bring Taibu as an opener ....
I agree they are better off without Chopra.  They need to have Akthar, Gul and Ishant for the rest of the matches and have rest of the bowlers planned around them.
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What is it about Aussies that they have such weird ideas? In which universe is Aakash Chopra a T20 opener, as Buchanan seems to think? If he has to play he should come in when a collapse happens.

Given the fact that SG is a tad superstitous as times, there might an outside chance that Chopra might be retained in the pretext of winning combo....but honestly, he doesn't belong to this format....I think das shud be inducted in Chopra's place and bring Taibu as an opener ....
I agree they are better off without Chopra.  They need to have Akthar, Gul and Ishant for the rest of the matches and have rest of the bowlers planned around them.

totally agree
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What is it about Aussies that they have such weird ideas? In which universe is Aakash Chopra a T20 opener, as Buchanan seems to think? If he has to play he should come in when a collapse happens.

Given the fact that SG is a tad superstitous as times, there might an outside chance that Chopra might be retained in the pretext of winning combo....but honestly, he doesn't belong to this format....I think das shud be inducted in Chopra's place and bring Taibu as an opener ....
I agree they are better off without Chopra.  They need to have Akthar, Gul and Ishant for the rest of the matches and have rest of the bowlers planned around them.

totally agree

for some unknown reason KKR is  Agarkarised , they are hellbent on playing him as apparently he knows Wankhede well  ::)
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What is it about Aussies that they have such weird ideas? In which universe is Aakash Chopra a T20 opener, as Buchanan seems to think? If he has to play he should come in when a collapse happens.

Given the fact that SG is a tad superstitous as times, there might an outside chance that Chopra might be retained in the pretext of winning combo....but honestly, he doesn't belong to this format....I think das shud be inducted in Chopra's place and bring Taibu as an opener ....
I agree they are better off without Chopra.  They need to have Akthar, Gul and Ishant for the rest of the matches and have rest of the bowlers planned around them.

totally agree

for some unknown reason KKR is  Agarkarised , they are hellbent on playing him as apparently he knows Wankhede well  ::)
I could never understand why KKR went for Agarkar and Akash.
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Master versus Blaster

It doesn’t get any better than this. For the first time on Mumbai soil, we will see a fully charged up Akhtar taking on Tendulkar

Posted On Friday, May 16, 2008
 
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Almost a month after the Indian Premier League started, perhaps the one thing that still drives the crowds to the stadiums by the truckloads is the opportunity of watching team-mates become foes. And, of course, the party that begins thereafter.

Sachin Tendulkar isn’t too happy when spoken about the individual battles which enjoy numerous square-inches of the newsprint and quite a few minutes of air-time.

But we don’t mind earning Tendulkar’s ire even a bit. After all, when Shoaib Akhtar sends the hapless white ball at speeds upward of 150 Ks and Tendulkar, out of nowhere, opens his shoulders for a shot which is not only elegant but effective (and gets him runs too), it’s all worth it.

Oh and by the way, it will also be the first time that Akhtar, who is playing for the Kolkata Knight Riders in the IPL, will set Wankhede Stadium alight with his speed and antics. Of course, the routine conditions of whether he plays or not, do apply.

Akhtar, if he plays today, will join Sohail Tanvir, Shahid Afridi, Shoaib Malik and Mohammad Asif as the only Pakistan cricketers from the current crop to have played in Mumbai.

Opener Salman Butt and Mohammad Hafeez of the Kolkata team too could be granted the honours.

Not since 1979

Pakistan has not played a match at the Wankhede since they lost a Test to India in December 1979. After that, our neighbours have only played one match — an ODI in October 1989 against Australia at the Brabourne Stadium — in Mumbai for reasons, more political than cricketing.

Akhtar, however, didn’t spend too much time in the nets yesterday. The Pakistan speedster, whose five-year ban by the Pakistan Cricket Board was stayed for a month to allow him to play in the cash-rich IPL, bowled a few deliveries but none with his trademark pace.

Whether or not that has got anything to do with any niggle, not much can be said till today evening.

If all this wasn’t enough, how about having India’s most successful opening pair to lead teams that will face each other. Tendulkar and Sourav Ganguly last led teams against each other when Mumbai played Bengal in the Ranji Trophy finals in February last year. Tendulkar’s Mumbai won the contest by 132 runs.

Different strokes

“But that was a five-day game and Twenty20 is different. It moves at a different pace altogether,” Tendulkar, who will lead Mumbai Indians for the second time in the IPL, said in a press conference yesterday. “Sourav is an experienced campaigner and I know for sure it’s going to be a close call. Eventually, though, what the spectators will see is good competition.”

Ganguly, on the other hand, has firepower he never had during his captaincy days for India — Akhtar and Ishant Sharma to name a few. So after his performance against Delhi, what does the Kolkata captain expect from Akhtar today?

Not so surprisingly but very funnily, his reply, which was accompanied with a smirk, was, “Take out Jayasuriya, take out Sachin, take out Uthappa and finish with five. We should be fine then.”

Nonetheless, that firepower is not really bothering Tendulkar too much. “If they have the bowlers, our batsmen are capable enough to tackle them,” the Master Blaster said. But both Tendulkar and Ganguly, the most illustrious of those who carry the tag of being the seniors, found common ground on at least one thing — seniors excelling in the shortest version of the game.

“Hayden scored a ton, Gilchrist, Hussey, Jayasuriya, I came close to scoring one, we all are over the age of 30,” Ganguly said. “It’s more about performance than age and hopefully we are proving our point well.”

•  If they have the bowlers, our batsmen are capable enough to tackle them — Sachin Tendulkar

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What is it about Aussies that they have such weird ideas? In which universe is Aakash Chopra a T20 opener, as Buchanan seems to think? If he has to play he should come in when a collapse happens.

Given the fact that SG is a tad superstitous as times, there might an outside chance that Chopra might be retained in the pretext of winning combo....but honestly, he doesn't belong to this format....I think das shud be inducted in Chopra's place and bring Taibu as an opener ....
I agree they are better off without Chopra.  They need to have Akthar, Gul and Ishant for the rest of the matches and have rest of the bowlers planned around them.

totally agree

for some unknown reason KKR is  Agarkarised , they are hellbent on playing him as apparently he knows Wankhede well  ::)
I could never understand why KKR went for Agarkar and Akash.
For Agarkar certainly there are reasons..don't you remember ? For Akash , it is certainly perplexing.!
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What is it about Aussies that they have such weird ideas? In which universe is Aakash Chopra a T20 opener, as Buchanan seems to think? If he has to play he should come in when a collapse happens.

Given the fact that SG is a tad superstitous as times, there might an outside chance that Chopra might be retained in the pretext of winning combo....but honestly, he doesn't belong to this format....I think das shud be inducted in Chopra's place and bring Taibu as an opener ....
I agree they are better off without Chopra.  They need to have Akthar, Gul and Ishant for the rest of the matches and have rest of the bowlers planned around them.

totally agree

for some unknown reason KKR is  Agarkarised , they are hellbent on playing him as apparently he knows Wankhede well  ::)
I could never understand why KKR went for Agarkar and Akash.
For Agarkar certainly there are reasons..don't you remember ? For Akash , it is certainly perplexing.!


 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
 
Prem Panicker's doppelganger?
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For KKR  Gul,Akhtar,Ishant and Dinda should be the bowling attack(SG and Shukla can chip in). Win toss and bowl
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if j'surya decides to unleash another of his hurricanes, KKR are sunk. if not, maybe they can brave the tide.

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if j'surya decides to unleash another of his hurricanes, KKR are sunk. if not, maybe they can brave the tide.


Not going to happen. SJ scores once in a while...If SJ and SRT go cheaply KKR has a very good chance. Chasing anything over 150 is going to be tough for KKR
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for some unknown reason KKR is  Agarkarised , they are hellbent on playing him as apparently he knows Wankhede well 
Playing Agarkar for Chopra wont hurt them at all.
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for some unknown reason KKR is  Agarkarised , they are hellbent on playing him as apparently he knows Wankhede well 
Playing Agarkar for Chopra wont hurt them at all.

chopra brings the advantage that he doesn't bowl?
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for some unknown reason KKR is  Agarkarised , they are hellbent on playing him as apparently he knows Wankhede well 
Playing Agarkar for Chopra wont hurt them at all.

chopra brings the advantage that he doesn't bowl?
And the disadvantage that he doesn't bat! Well by T20 standards. So now to fielding, where Agarkar is ahead. ;D
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for some unknown reason KKR is  Agarkarised , they are hellbent on playing him as apparently he knows Wankhede well 
Playing Agarkar for Chopra wont hurt them at all.

chopra brings the advantage that he doesn't bowl?
And the disadvantage that he doesn't bat! Well by T20 standards. So now to fielding, where Agarkar is ahead. ;D

well, both don't bat - but chopra wdn't concede runs by bowling - pick your choice!  ;D

on another note, i am still waiting on PP or the PPPs to unearth fabricate some reasons for chopra's inclusion.
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If it is a choice between AC and AA in T20 I will go with Agarkar but frankly I would not have him in any side otherwise.
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for some unknown reason KKR is  Agarkarised , they are hellbent on playing him as apparently he knows Wankhede well 
Playing Agarkar for Chopra wont hurt them at all.

chopra brings the advantage that he doesn't bowl?
I think so  :) :)
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Knights prepare to take on Tendulkar's men at Wakhede
Anand Ramachandran  |  16 May, 2008 at 09:53 AM   

Knight Riders skipper Sourav Ganguly will lock horns with fellow Indian great Sachin Tendulkar tonight in a match that promises to be one of high excitement and thrills at the Wankhede stadium in Mumbai.

The prospect of Ganguly and Tendulkar, India's most iconic opening partnership in ODIs, battling it out as rival skippers is a delicious prospect for cricket fans. This individual battle within a battle, at Tendulkar's home ground, is certain to provide fireworks that will light up the night.

Both teams are coming off victories. Both teams are eyeing a semi-final spot. There's much at stake, and the tension in the air is palpable.

For the Knight Riders, the opening combination is still a worry. Salman Butt will probably retain his spot after his crucial knock against Delhi, but Aakash Chopra has been far too slow getting of the blocks. Buchanan will be tempted to play Wridhiman Saha or even Laxmi Rattan Shukla up the order, or maybe pick Debabrata Das instead of Chopra. The middle order looks a little more solid, with Ganguly, Hussey and Shukla showing form. Whatever they do, the Knights will have to get it right if they are to deal with the wiles of Shaun Pollock with the new ball. After a shaky start, Aashish Nehra, too has hit a good rhythm, and Dwayne Bravo and Dhaval Kulkarni round off a decent attack for the Indians.

Kolkata has been one of the IPL's strongest bowling sides, and the explosive return of Shoaib Akhtar has established them as an attack to fear. Ishant Sharma seems to have lost his initial consistency, but remains a threat. Dinda and Ganguly figure among the most economical bowlers in the IPL, and have struck at crucial times. To contain a line-up that includes Tendulkar, Jayasuriya, Uthappa, Bravo and Pollock, they will need to be at their best. It will be an absorbing contest.

Will Ganguly outwit the Indians? Will Shoaib carry on from where he left off against Delhi? Knight Riders fans, you don't want to miss this one.

http://www.kolkataknightriders.com/storydetails.php?contentid=3701
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KKR should look to optimise its strength in bowling, and that means keep the foursome of Shoaib, Gul, Dinda and Ishant in place in all the matches. They should also think of bringing in an opener who can fire in first 6 overs - someone like Taibu or Saha- to pair with Butt.
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KKR should look to optimise its strength in bowling, and that means keep the foursome of Shoaib, Gul, Dinda and Ishant in place in all the matches. They should also think of bringing in an opener who can fire in first 6 overs - someone like Taibu or Saha- to pair with Butt.

If both Shoaib and Gul play, that leaves only Butt or Taibu...as Hussey is definite... If Hodge can come back quick... it should be him and Saha.. Hodge can hit hard and far in comparison to Butt
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KKR should look to optimise its strength in bowling, and that means keep the foursome of Shoaib, Gul, Dinda and Ishant in place in all the matches. They should also think of bringing in an opener who can fire in first 6 overs - someone like Taibu or Saha- to pair with Butt.

If both Shoaib and Gul play, that leaves only Butt or Taibu...as Hussey is definite... If Hodge can come back quick... it should be him and Saha.. Hodge can hit hard and far in comparison to Butt

hodge can't seem to get any runs in india though - he was a failure in the ODIs too.
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KKR should look to optimise its strength in bowling, and that means keep the foursome of Shoaib, Gul, Dinda and Ishant in place in all the matches. They should also think of bringing in an opener who can fire in first 6 overs - someone like Taibu or Saha- to pair with Butt.

If both Shoaib and Gul play, that leaves only Butt or Taibu...as Hussey is definite... If Hodge can come back quick... it should be him and Saha.. Hodge can hit hard and far in comparison to Butt

hodge can't seem to get any runs in india though - he was a failure in the ODIs too.

Ah if we could just have Shaun Marsh!
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KKR should look to optimise its strength in bowling, and that means keep the foursome of Shoaib, Gul, Dinda and Ishant in place in all the matches. They should also think of bringing in an opener who can fire in first 6 overs - someone like Taibu or Saha- to pair with Butt.

If both Shoaib and Gul play, that leaves only Butt or Taibu...as Hussey is definite... If Hodge can come back quick... it should be him and Saha.. Hodge can hit hard and far in comparison to Butt

hodge can't seem to get any runs in india though - he was a failure in the ODIs too.

Ah if we could just have Shaun Marsh!

how did Kings XI manage to get hold of this gem! what was buchanan doing???
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KKR should look to optimise its strength in bowling, and that means keep the foursome of Shoaib, Gul, Dinda and Ishant in place in all the matches. They should also think of bringing in an opener who can fire in first 6 overs - someone like Taibu or Saha- to pair with Butt.

If both Shoaib and Gul play, that leaves only Butt or Taibu...as Hussey is definite... If Hodge can come back quick... it should be him and Saha.. Hodge can hit hard and far in comparison to Butt

hodge can't seem to get any runs in india though - he was a failure in the ODIs too.

Ah if we could just have Shaun Marsh!

how did Kings XI manage to get old of this gem! what was buchanan doing???

Buchanan was probably doing a Dravid! Gathering his old buddies along!!
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KKR should look to optimise its strength in bowling, and that means keep the foursome of Shoaib, Gul, Dinda and Ishant in place in all the matches. They should also think of bringing in an opener who can fire in first 6 overs - someone like Taibu or Saha- to pair with Butt.

If both Shoaib and Gul play, that leaves only Butt or Taibu...as Hussey is definite... If Hodge can come back quick... it should be him and Saha.. Hodge can hit hard and far in comparison to Butt

hodge can't seem to get any runs in india though - he was a failure in the ODIs too.

Ah if we could just have Shaun Marsh!

how did Kings XI manage to get old of this gem! what was buchanan doing???

Buchanan was probably doing a Dravid! Gathering his old buddies along!!

"honouring" them, you mean?  ;D
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KKR should look to optimise its strength in bowling, and that means keep the foursome of Shoaib, Gul, Dinda and Ishant in place in all the matches. They should also think of bringing in an opener who can fire in first 6 overs - someone like Taibu or Saha- to pair with Butt.

If both Shoaib and Gul play, that leaves only Butt or Taibu...as Hussey is definite... If Hodge can come back quick... it should be him and Saha.. Hodge can hit hard and far in comparison to Butt

hodge can't seem to get any runs in india though - he was a failure in the ODIs too.

Ah if we could just have Shaun Marsh!

how did Kings XI manage to get old of this gem! what was buchanan doing???
So true.. another HOT talent who should explode soon on the international scene.
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