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[LosingNow]

Chargers better get their act together fast.. they are playing Rajasthan on Thursday.. if they fail .. I think heads have to/will roll.. VVS better watch out.. this is not the BCCI anymore.. professional investors typically have a short leash for underperformers..the danger is "loss of interest" by the locals which means "loss of revenue".

or a famous comeback when theyre down n out...that can be a big story and revengue generator!

the trouble is 'icons are supposed to attract local fans'...so if a VVS performs badly and he is shunted out...the fan following of DC might suffer...this is something sponsors will like to avoid

I was talking to a few folks in Hyderabad.. VVS is copping a lot of the blame for the 2 losses.. the local "icon support" can be fleeting if the losses pile up.

So what will they do if they win 2 in a row.  To me it is very childish to flip flop after each game.  Granted a lot needs to be desired the way the team performed as a whole.  All the team needs is a win in the next game for the perspective to change.   I say give the team atleast a couple more games before drawing broad conclusions.  VVS is the captain and rightly so and that is all there is to it.  No need to second guess.  In my mind there is not a better person to lead 'Team Hyderabad'.

See bolded phrase

[Vick]

Chargers better get their act together fast.. they are playing Rajasthan on Thursday.. if they fail .. I think heads have to/will roll.. VVS better watch out.. this is not the BCCI anymore.. professional investors typically have a short leash for underperformers..the danger is "loss of interest" by the locals which means "loss of revenue".

or a famous comeback when theyre down n out...that can be a big story and revengue generator!

the trouble is 'icons are supposed to attract local fans'...so if a VVS performs badly and he is shunted out...the fan following of DC might suffer...this is something sponsors will like to avoid

I was talking to a few folks in Hyderabad.. VVS is copping a lot of the blame for the 2 losses.. the local "icon support" can be fleeting if the losses pile up.

VVS do need to think out of the box here. like in todays game he should have known that Mcgrath can be tough to handle for a new comer like Venu. He himself should have come up and kept Venu for later stage. I would have liked him to do the same thing even if Ravi teja was playing today. Mcgrath and Asif are too hot to handle specially in conditions where ball is moving.

Now in next game against Rajasthan i would like him to hold himself back a bit and face Warne. Also in next game Teja can open as he should have already facsed likes of Munaf, Trivedi and Pankaj in domestic earlier. He also need to remember that he has very decent spinners at his disposable in Afridi and Ozha. Today he brought in Ozha in 11-12th over which is IMO too late. Also Gilly has been out of form for some time now. Nothing wrong in replacing him with Gibbs.

It shouldnt be about position in the batting order in T20 but rather situation of the Game. like MSD said during WC he decided to play the last 8 overs doesnt matter which number it would have been. 

Teja, Gibbs, VVS(only when Warne is operating and with in first 8 overs), Symmo, Rohit, Afridi, Haldhar Das, Vas, kalyankrishna, RP, Ozha.

Also in every game play with 5 specialist bowlers(Afridi included). In T20 part timers dont count unless it is a Eden pitch.

[LosingNow]

Chargers better get their act together fast.. they are playing Rajasthan on Thursday.. if they fail .. I think heads have to/will roll.. VVS better watch out.. this is not the BCCI anymore.. professional investors typically have a short leash for underperformers..the danger is "loss of interest" by the locals which means "loss of revenue".

or a famous comeback when theyre down n out...that can be a big story and revengue generator!

the trouble is 'icons are supposed to attract local fans'...so if a VVS performs badly and he is shunted out...the fan following of DC might suffer...this is something sponsors will like to avoid

I was talking to a few folks in Hyderabad.. VVS is copping a lot of the blame for the 2 losses.. the local "icon support" can be fleeting if the losses pile up.

VVS do need to think out of the box here. like in todays game he should have known that Mcgrath can be tough to handle for a new comer like Venu. He himself should have come up and kept Venu for later stage. I would have liked him to do the same thing even if Ravi teja was playing today. Mcgrath and Asif are too hot to handle specially in conditions where ball is moving.

Now in next game against Rajasthan i would like him to hold himself back a bit and face Warne. Also in next game Teja can open as he should have already facsed likes of Munaf, Trivedi and Pankaj in domestic earlier. He also need to remember that he has very decent spinners at his disposable in Afridi and Ozha. Today he brought in Ozha in 11-12th over which is IMO too late. Also Gilly has been out of form for some time now. Nothing wrong in replacing him with Gibbs.

It shouldnt be about position in the batting order in T20 but rather situation of the Game. like MSD said during WC he decided to play the last 8 overs doesnt matter which number it would have been. 

Teja, Gibbs, VVS(only when Warne is operating and with in first 8 overs), Symmo, Rohit, Afridi, Haldhar Das, Vas, kalyankrishna, RP, Ozha.

Also in every game play with 5 specialist bowlers(Afridi included). In T20 part timers dont count unless it is a Eden pitch.

Is Gibbs available?

[RicePlateReddy]

hmm .. ok .. i never heard of them ...

i think a couple of things are becoming clearer.

as the tournament progresses the following teams will do well:
1. those that have a good bowling attack (a combined attack, not one star bowler)
2. those that have good indian players and possibly, local players.

star studded teams like mohali and hyderabad failing at the start is enough indication of that.

There is the strong possibility that winners are more randomized in this form of the game. Come on - you should have sniffed that one out gourav I am okay with it though.

[ramshorns]

Chargers better get their act together fast.. they are playing Rajasthan on Thursday.. if they fail .. I think heads have to/will roll.. VVS better watch out.. this is not the BCCI anymore.. professional investors typically have a short leash for underperformers..the danger is "loss of interest" by the locals which means "loss of revenue".

or a famous comeback when theyre down n out...that can be a big story and revengue generator!

the trouble is 'icons are supposed to attract local fans'...so if a VVS performs badly and he is shunted out...the fan following of DC might suffer...this is something sponsors will like to avoid

I was talking to a few folks in Hyderabad.. VVS is copping a lot of the blame for the 2 losses.. the local "icon support" can be fleeting if the losses pile up.

VVS do need to think out of the box here. like in todays game he should have known that Mcgrath can be tough to handle for a new comer like Venu. He himself should have come up and kept Venu for later stage. I would have liked him to do the same thing even if Ravi teja was playing today. Mcgrath and Asif are too hot to handle specially in conditions where ball is moving.

Now in next game against Rajasthan i would like him to hold himself back a bit and face Warne. Also in next game Teja can open as he should have already facsed likes of Munaf, Trivedi and Pankaj in domestic earlier. He also need to remember that he has very decent spinners at his disposable in Afridi and Ozha. Today he brought in Ozha in 11-12th over which is IMO too late. Also Gilly has been out of form for some time now. Nothing wrong in replacing him with Gibbs.

It shouldnt be about position in the batting order in T20 but rather situation of the Game. like MSD said during WC he decided to play the last 8 overs doesnt matter which number it would have been. 

Teja, Gibbs, VVS(only when Warne is operating and with in first 8 overs), Symmo, Rohit, Afridi, Haldhar Das, Vas, kalyankrishna, RP, Ozha.

Also in every game play with 5 specialist bowlers(Afridi included). In T20 part timers dont count unless it is a Eden pitch.

Is Gibbs available?

Yes he is.   

[kingcool1432]

hmm .. ok .. i never heard of them ...

i think a couple of things are becoming clearer.

as the tournament progresses the following teams will do well:
1. those that have a good bowling attack (a combined attack, not one star bowler)
2. those that have good indian players and possibly, local players.

star studded teams like mohali and hyderabad failing at the start is enough indication of that.

The side which loses is the one which has one of the opposing batsmen go psycho on their asses.

McCullum, Hussey, Sewag, Shane Watson.

[LosingNow]

hmm .. ok .. i never heard of them ...

i think a couple of things are becoming clearer.

as the tournament progresses the following teams will do well:
1. those that have a good bowling attack (a combined attack, not one star bowler)
2. those that have good indian players and possibly, local players.

star studded teams like mohali and hyderabad failing at the start is enough indication of that.

There is the strong possibility that winners are more randomized in this form of the game. Come on - you should have sniffed that one out gourav I am okay with it though.

I agree with God's point one.. time and again teams have ignored "good bowling" at their peril in this format. As pitches "wear down" over time..this should become a more important factor.
His second reason is, as usual, goofy.

[cricinfo]

hmm .. ok .. i never heard of them ...

i think a couple of things are becoming clearer.

as the tournament progresses the following teams will do well:
1. those that have a good bowling attack (a combined attack, not one star bowler)
2. those that have good indian players and possibly, local players.

star studded teams like mohali and hyderabad failing at the start is enough indication of that.

There is the strong possibility that winners are more randomized in this form of the game. Come on - you should have sniffed that one out gourav I am okay with it though.

I agree with God one point.. time and again teams have ignored "good bowling" at their peril in this format. As pitches "wear down" over time..this should become a more important factor.
His second reason is, as usual, goofy.

before IPL started in one of the interviews , SG mentioned it is going to be the good bowling side which will do good in this format, and that is one of the reason he was ready to go so far to get Ishant and they didnt bet too much to get likes of symo or gilly.

[LosingNow]

hmm .. ok .. i never heard of them ...

i think a couple of things are becoming clearer.

as the tournament progresses the following teams will do well:
1. those that have a good bowling attack (a combined attack, not one star bowler)
2. those that have good indian players and possibly, local players.

star studded teams like mohali and hyderabad failing at the start is enough indication of that.

There is the strong possibility that winners are more randomized in this form of the game. Come on - you should have sniffed that one out gourav I am okay with it though.

I agree with God one point.. time and again teams have ignored "good bowling" at their peril in this format. As pitches "wear down" over time..this should become a more important factor.
His second reason is, as usual, goofy.

before IPL started in one of the interviews , SG mentioned it is going to be the good bowling side which will do good in this format, and that is one of the reason he was ready to go so far to get Ishant and they didnt bet too much to get likes of symo or gilly.

The old adage in sports may be applicable here.. defense wins championships!!

[WicketView]

hmm .. ok .. i never heard of them ...

i think a couple of things are becoming clearer.

as the tournament progresses the following teams will do well:
1. those that have a good bowling attack (a combined attack, not one star bowler)
2. those that have good indian players and possibly, local players.

star studded teams like mohali and hyderabad failing at the start is enough indication of that.

There is the strong possibility that winners are more randomized in this form of the game. Come on - you should have sniffed that one out gourav I am okay with it though.

I agree with God's point one.. time and again teams have ignored "good bowling" at their peril in this format. As pitches "wear down" over time..this should become a more important factor.
His second reason is, as usual, goofy.

Agree on the first point too.

Compared to an ODI format, the probabilty of the batting skills of the players below No. 5  coming to any use is much smaller. Therefore, it pays a lot more to choose the best bowlers rather than the guys who can bat and put in a few overs. And, there is hardly any scope for the batsman to 'play out' a good bowler.

[WicketView]

I need to search for the clips of VS blasting AS, and RS picking 26 of one over.

[teamindia]

Delhi is rocking !!! And they are depending on just desi batsmen....very good to see that

HOHOHOHO

 
12.6 Symonds to Sehwag, SIX 
12.5 Symonds to Sehwag, FOUR, oh this is like X-box cricket! Four more, pulled over midwicket, what an over! 
12.4 Symonds to Sehwag, SIX, good grief, now he's smashed him over cover! Sehwag is on a roll, just stepping aside and carving the ball for another flat six 
12.3 Symonds to Sehwag, FOUR, banged in short, he gets up on one leg and rolls the wrists, pulling into the ground behind square leg and the sweeper running around, Ojha, dives and lets the ball go away 
12.2 Symonds to Sehwag, SIX, flat six, as Sehwag just picks the length up and carries through with a pull over square leg, lovely stuff 
12.1 Symonds to Sehwag, FOUR, hooooooooooo! Sehwag wants to fly out of Hyderabad as soon as possible, again clearing the front leg and slamming Symonds over extra cover 
 
 
MORE TO COME, STAY TUNED

Now I have decided, I am supporting DDD. VS is da man and DDD has more desi look..
Go Delhi..

My second choice will be MI.. hope SRT is back soon.

[ramshorns]

hmm .. ok .. i never heard of them ...

i think a couple of things are becoming clearer.

as the tournament progresses the following teams will do well:
1. those that have a good bowling attack (a combined attack, not one star bowler)
2. those that have good indian players and possibly, local players.

star studded teams like mohali and hyderabad failing at the start is enough indication of that.

There is the strong possibility that winners are more randomized in this form of the game. Come on - you should have sniffed that one out gourav I am okay with it though.

I agree with God one point.. time and again teams have ignored "good bowling" at their peril in this format. As pitches "wear down" over time..this should become a more important factor.
His second reason is, as usual, goofy.

before IPL started in one of the interviews , SG mentioned it is going to be the good bowling side which will do good in this format, and that is one of the reason he was ready to go so far to get Ishant and they didnt bet too much to get likes of symo or gilly.

And SG also said that in the same interview that Hyderabad has a very good side and he expects them to do well and be in it till the end.  So let us hope he is proved right.

[Cover Point]

Delhi is rocking !!! And they are depending on just desi batsmen....very good to see that

HOHOHOHO

 
12.6 Symonds to Sehwag, SIX 
12.5 Symonds to Sehwag, FOUR, oh this is like X-box cricket! Four more, pulled over midwicket, what an over! 
12.4 Symonds to Sehwag, SIX, good grief, now he's smashed him over cover! Sehwag is on a roll, just stepping aside and carving the ball for another flat six 
12.3 Symonds to Sehwag, FOUR, banged in short, he gets up on one leg and rolls the wrists, pulling into the ground behind square leg and the sweeper running around, Ojha, dives and lets the ball go away 
12.2 Symonds to Sehwag, SIX, flat six, as Sehwag just picks the length up and carries through with a pull over square leg, lovely stuff 
12.1 Symonds to Sehwag, FOUR, hooooooooooo! Sehwag wants to fly out of Hyderabad as soon as possible, again clearing the front leg and slamming Symonds over extra cover 
 
 
MORE TO COME, STAY TUNED

Now I have decided, I am supporting DDD. VS is da man and DDD has more desi look..
Go Delhi..

My second choice will be MI.. hope SRT is back soon.

welcome to the champions!

[gouravk]

DD at this point looks more impressive to me than the KKR. Cant wait for that match to happen.

[Aloo Kashmiri Ul Haq]

Delhi is rocking !!! And they are depending on just desi batsmen....very good to see that

HOHOHOHO

 
12.6 Symonds to Sehwag, SIX 
12.5 Symonds to Sehwag, FOUR, oh this is like X-box cricket! Four more, pulled over midwicket, what an over! 
12.4 Symonds to Sehwag, SIX, good grief, now he's smashed him over cover! Sehwag is on a roll, just stepping aside and carving the ball for another flat six 
12.3 Symonds to Sehwag, FOUR, banged in short, he gets up on one leg and rolls the wrists, pulling into the ground behind square leg and the sweeper running around, Ojha, dives and lets the ball go away 
12.2 Symonds to Sehwag, SIX, flat six, as Sehwag just picks the length up and carries through with a pull over square leg, lovely stuff 
12.1 Symonds to Sehwag, FOUR, hooooooooooo! Sehwag wants to fly out of Hyderabad as soon as possible, again clearing the front leg and slamming Symonds over extra cover 
 
 
MORE TO COME, STAY TUNED

Now I have decided, I am supporting DDD. VS is da man and DDD has more desi look..
Go Delhi..

My second choice will be MI.. hope SRT is back soon.

welcome to the champions!

chicken mutton khao muscle badhao
idly dosa khao akal badao

so khakh tera delhi daredevils, go chennai idly dosas

[Cover Point]

Delhi is rocking !!! And they are depending on just desi batsmen....very good to see that

HOHOHOHO

 
12.6 Symonds to Sehwag, SIX 
12.5 Symonds to Sehwag, FOUR, oh this is like X-box cricket! Four more, pulled over midwicket, what an over! 
12.4 Symonds to Sehwag, SIX, good grief, now he's smashed him over cover! Sehwag is on a roll, just stepping aside and carving the ball for another flat six 
12.3 Symonds to Sehwag, FOUR, banged in short, he gets up on one leg and rolls the wrists, pulling into the ground behind square leg and the sweeper running around, Ojha, dives and lets the ball go away 
12.2 Symonds to Sehwag, SIX, flat six, as Sehwag just picks the length up and carries through with a pull over square leg, lovely stuff 
12.1 Symonds to Sehwag, FOUR, hooooooooooo! Sehwag wants to fly out of Hyderabad as soon as possible, again clearing the front leg and slamming Symonds over extra cover 
 
 
MORE TO COME, STAY TUNED

Now I have decided, I am supporting DDD. VS is da man and DDD has more desi look..
Go Delhi..

My second choice will be MI.. hope SRT is back soon.

welcome to the champions!

chicken mutton khao muscle badhao
idly dosa khao akal badao

so khakh tera delhi daredevils, go chennai idly dosas

as the famous dialog from 'padosan'

is idly dosa se kaam nahin chalega ... koi parantha lao

[Libran]

Could not watch the match...was away in Shirdi

Saw clippings on some news channel...VVS getti ng bowled of Asif was a sight for sore eyes...

Single digit scores followed by uninspirational captaincy does not make good news for the supporters

[Libran]

i think the crucial point was sehwag's dropped catch . you CANNOT drop players like sehwag in 2020. the other sanjay bangar - he is a third grade bowler and should never be handed the ball. the third - why is symonds not bowling spin ? half his effectiveness is lost if he bowls seam-up.

That is what bothers me more than losing.  Boneheaded decision.....Bangar as much as I admire players like him who gut it out in the domestics and give it their all just are not first change bowlers in a professional set up.

There were more decisions flawed than this one .
They lost 75% of  game by their batting. While RS made up a little at end , but at no stage you want Venu and VVS in middle and for longer period.
When Giily was out RS,Afridi or Symmonds should have been send. VVSl could fit in if Venu had gone. Being too bookish and knowledgble are not what is captaincy about. You have to be street smart capabale of making instinctive decisions. That is why MSD, VS etc would do better than likes of VVS or RD( He was still OK , a little more defensive like his bat though)

Totally agree. And thats the reason i like MSD and VS as captain a lot. They seems to be always aware of match situation.

Eggjacktly..
..when it comes to captaincy .. VS, MSD (and Kaif) are street-smart/highly aware (in making decisions and leading/motivating teams) whereas VVS and RD are bookish. SG is somewhat in the middle and has an amazing eye for talent - I mean to pick McCullum, Ishant and pay them top $s..great decision!!

Don't forget Tinda... a nobody that SG picked... Wonder who identified Gony...the lad seems to be a good bowler

[dhruvdeepak]

i think the crucial point was sehwag's dropped catch . you CANNOT drop players like sehwag in 2020. the other sanjay bangar - he is a third grade bowler and should never be handed the ball. the third - why is symonds not bowling spin ? half his effectiveness is lost if he bowls seam-up.

That is what bothers me more than losing.  Boneheaded decision.....Bangar as much as I admire players like him who gut it out in the domestics and give it their all just are not first change bowlers in a professional set up.

There were more decisions flawed than this one .
They lost 75% of  game by their batting. While RS made up a little at end , but at no stage you want Venu and VVS in middle and for longer period.
When Giily was out RS,Afridi or Symmonds should have been send. VVSl could fit in if Venu had gone. Being too bookish and knowledgble are not what is captaincy about. You have to be street smart capabale of making instinctive decisions. That is why MSD, VS etc would do better than likes of VVS or RD( He was still OK , a little more defensive like his bat though)

Totally agree. And thats the reason i like MSD and VS as captain a lot. They seems to be always aware of match situation.

Eggjacktly..
..when it comes to captaincy .. VS, MSD (and Kaif) are street-smart/highly aware (in making decisions and leading/motivating teams) whereas VVS and RD are bookish. SG is somewhat in the middle and has an amazing eye for talent - I mean to pick McCullum, Ishant and pay them top $s..great decision!!

Don't forget Tinda... a nobody that SG picked... Wonder who identified Gony...the lad seems to be a good bowler

i saw gony during the ranji trophy. the guy has become leaner and stronger. bowling consistently over 130. with dhoni as his captain in IPL he is definitely going to be in the Indian team for the next series, if he continues bowling like this.

[gouravk]

oh he is awesome ! i saw him bowl from close quarters ! you can feel the weight of the delivery !

[pipsqueak]

i think the crucial point was sehwag's dropped catch . you CANNOT drop players like sehwag in 2020. the other sanjay bangar - he is a third grade bowler and should never be handed the ball. the third - why is symonds not bowling spin ? half his effectiveness is lost if he bowls seam-up.

That is what bothers me more than losing.  Boneheaded decision.....Bangar as much as I admire players like him who gut it out in the domestics and give it their all just are not first change bowlers in a professional set up.

There were more decisions flawed than this one .
They lost 75% of  game by their batting. While RS made up a little at end , but at no stage you want Venu and VVS in middle and for longer period.
When Giily was out RS,Afridi or Symmonds should have been send. VVSl could fit in if Venu had gone. Being too bookish and knowledgble are not what is captaincy about. You have to be street smart capabale of making instinctive decisions. That is why MSD, VS etc would do better than likes of VVS or RD( He was still OK , a little more defensive like his bat though)

Totally agree. And thats the reason i like MSD and VS as captain a lot. They seems to be always aware of match situation.

Eggjacktly..
..when it comes to captaincy .. VS, MSD (and Kaif) are street-smart/highly aware (in making decisions and leading/motivating teams) whereas VVS and RD are bookish. SG is somewhat in the middle and has an amazing eye for talent - I mean to pick McCullum, Ishant and pay them top $s..great decision!!

Don't forget Tinda... a nobody that SG picked... Wonder who identified Gony...the lad seems to be a good bowler

Dinda, you mean. isn't Tinda a vegetable?

[LosingNow]

i think the crucial point was sehwag's dropped catch . you CANNOT drop players like sehwag in 2020. the other sanjay bangar - he is a third grade bowler and should never be handed the ball. the third - why is symonds not bowling spin ? half his effectiveness is lost if he bowls seam-up.

That is what bothers me more than losing.  Boneheaded decision.....Bangar as much as I admire players like him who gut it out in the domestics and give it their all just are not first change bowlers in a professional set up.

There were more decisions flawed than this one .
They lost 75% of  game by their batting. While RS made up a little at end , but at no stage you want Venu and VVS in middle and for longer period.
When Giily was out RS,Afridi or Symmonds should have been send. VVSl could fit in if Venu had gone. Being too bookish and knowledgble are not what is captaincy about. You have to be street smart capabale of making instinctive decisions. That is why MSD, VS etc would do better than likes of VVS or RD( He was still OK , a little more defensive like his bat though)

Totally agree. And thats the reason i like MSD and VS as captain a lot. They seems to be always aware of match situation.

Eggjacktly..
..when it comes to captaincy .. VS, MSD (and Kaif) are street-smart/highly aware (in making decisions and leading/motivating teams) whereas VVS and RD are bookish. SG is somewhat in the middle and has an amazing eye for talent - I mean to pick McCullum, Ishant and pay them top $s..great decision!!

Don't forget Tinda... a nobody that SG picked... Wonder who identified Gony...the lad seems to be a good bowler

Dinda, you mean. isn't Tinda a vegetable?

Yep.. and I love "Bharva Tinda" (stuffed)

[pipsqueak]

i think the crucial point was sehwag's dropped catch . you CANNOT drop players like sehwag in 2020. the other sanjay bangar - he is a third grade bowler and should never be handed the ball. the third - why is symonds not bowling spin ? half his effectiveness is lost if he bowls seam-up.

That is what bothers me more than losing.  Boneheaded decision.....Bangar as much as I admire players like him who gut it out in the domestics and give it their all just are not first change bowlers in a professional set up.

There were more decisions flawed than this one .
They lost 75% of  game by their batting. While RS made up a little at end , but at no stage you want Venu and VVS in middle and for longer period.
When Giily was out RS,Afridi or Symmonds should have been send. VVSl could fit in if Venu had gone. Being too bookish and knowledgble are not what is captaincy about. You have to be street smart capabale of making instinctive decisions. That is why MSD, VS etc would do better than likes of VVS or RD( He was still OK , a little more defensive like his bat though)

Totally agree. And thats the reason i like MSD and VS as captain a lot. They seems to be always aware of match situation.

Eggjacktly..
..when it comes to captaincy .. VS, MSD (and Kaif) are street-smart/highly aware (in making decisions and leading/motivating teams) whereas VVS and RD are bookish. SG is somewhat in the middle and has an amazing eye for talent - I mean to pick McCullum, Ishant and pay them top $s..great decision!!

Don't forget Tinda... a nobody that SG picked... Wonder who identified Gony...the lad seems to be a good bowler

Dinda, you mean. isn't Tinda a vegetable?

Yep.. and I love "Bharva Tinda" (stuffed)

oh, sounds yummy. i just found a recipe as well.

http://www.mamtaskitchen.com/recipe_display.php?id=12813

[dextrous]

i think the crucial point was sehwag's dropped catch . you CANNOT drop players like sehwag in 2020. the other sanjay bangar - he is a third grade bowler and should never be handed the ball. the third - why is symonds not bowling spin ? half his effectiveness is lost if he bowls seam-up.

That is what bothers me more than losing.  Boneheaded decision.....Bangar as much as I admire players like him who gut it out in the domestics and give it their all just are not first change bowlers in a professional set up.

There were more decisions flawed than this one .
They lost 75% of  game by their batting. While RS made up a little at end , but at no stage you want Venu and VVS in middle and for longer period.
When Giily was out RS,Afridi or Symmonds should have been send. VVSl could fit in if Venu had gone. Being too bookish and knowledgble are not what is captaincy about. You have to be street smart capabale of making instinctive decisions. That is why MSD, VS etc would do better than likes of VVS or RD( He was still OK , a little more defensive like his bat though)

Totally agree. And thats the reason i like MSD and VS as captain a lot. They seems to be always aware of match situation.

Eggjacktly..
..when it comes to captaincy .. VS, MSD (and Kaif) are street-smart/highly aware (in making decisions and leading/motivating teams) whereas VVS and RD are bookish. SG is somewhat in the middle and has an amazing eye for talent - I mean to pick McCullum, Ishant and pay them top $s..great decision!!

Don't forget Tinda... a nobody that SG picked... Wonder who identified Gony...the lad seems to be a good bowler

Dinda, you mean. isn't Tinda a vegetable?

Yep.. and I love "Bharva Tinda" (stuffed)

oh, sounds yummy. i just found a recipe as well.

http://www.mamtaskitchen.com/recipe_display.php?id=12813

are boiled vegetables out of fashion now?

[LosingNow]

i think the crucial point was sehwag's dropped catch . you CANNOT drop players like sehwag in 2020. the other sanjay bangar - he is a third grade bowler and should never be handed the ball. the third - why is symonds not bowling spin ? half his effectiveness is lost if he bowls seam-up.

That is what bothers me more than losing.  Boneheaded decision.....Bangar as much as I admire players like him who gut it out in the domestics and give it their all just are not first change bowlers in a professional set up.

There were more decisions flawed than this one .
They lost 75% of  game by their batting. While RS made up a little at end , but at no stage you want Venu and VVS in middle and for longer period.
When Giily was out RS,Afridi or Symmonds should have been send. VVSl could fit in if Venu had gone. Being too bookish and knowledgble are not what is captaincy about. You have to be street smart capabale of making instinctive decisions. That is why MSD, VS etc would do better than likes of VVS or RD( He was still OK , a little more defensive like his bat though)

Totally agree. And thats the reason i like MSD and VS as captain a lot. They seems to be always aware of match situation.

Eggjacktly..
..when it comes to captaincy .. VS, MSD (and Kaif) are street-smart/highly aware (in making decisions and leading/motivating teams) whereas VVS and RD are bookish. SG is somewhat in the middle and has an amazing eye for talent - I mean to pick McCullum, Ishant and pay them top $s..great decision!!

Don't forget Tinda... a nobody that SG picked... Wonder who identified Gony...the lad seems to be a good bowler

Dinda, you mean. isn't Tinda a vegetable?

Yep.. and I love "Bharva Tinda" (stuffed)

oh, sounds yummy. i just found a recipe as well.

http://www.mamtaskitchen.com/recipe_display.php?id=12813

Oh, I feel like eating it too.. but we don't find Tinda here. Actually it not widely available even in S India.

[pipsqueak]

i think the crucial point was sehwag's dropped catch . you CANNOT drop players like sehwag in 2020. the other sanjay bangar - he is a third grade bowler and should never be handed the ball. the third - why is symonds not bowling spin ? half his effectiveness is lost if he bowls seam-up.

That is what bothers me more than losing.  Boneheaded decision.....Bangar as much as I admire players like him who gut it out in the domestics and give it their all just are not first change bowlers in a professional set up.

There were more decisions flawed than this one .
They lost 75% of  game by their batting. While RS made up a little at end , but at no stage you want Venu and VVS in middle and for longer period.
When Giily was out RS,Afridi or Symmonds should have been send. VVSl could fit in if Venu had gone. Being too bookish and knowledgble are not what is captaincy about. You have to be street smart capabale of making instinctive decisions. That is why MSD, VS etc would do better than likes of VVS or RD( He was still OK , a little more defensive like his bat though)

Totally agree. And thats the reason i like MSD and VS as captain a lot. They seems to be always aware of match situation.

Eggjacktly..
..when it comes to captaincy .. VS, MSD (and Kaif) are street-smart/highly aware (in making decisions and leading/motivating teams) whereas VVS and RD are bookish. SG is somewhat in the middle and has an amazing eye for talent - I mean to pick McCullum, Ishant and pay them top $s..great decision!!

Don't forget Tinda... a nobody that SG picked... Wonder who identified Gony...the lad seems to be a good bowler

Dinda, you mean. isn't Tinda a vegetable?

Yep.. and I love "Bharva Tinda" (stuffed)

oh, sounds yummy. i just found a recipe as well.

http://www.mamtaskitchen.com/recipe_display.php?id=12813

Oh, I feel like eating it too.. but we don't find Tinda here. Actually it not widely available even in S India.

the only time i've had it was when i was in delhi. i need to see if i can find it some place here. 'tindora'/kovakkai can be found, if i dare to go to the indian store.

ps: since this match is history, it's okay to hijck it into a food thread, i s'pose?

[LosingNow]

i think the crucial point was sehwag's dropped catch . you CANNOT drop players like sehwag in 2020. the other sanjay bangar - he is a third grade bowler and should never be handed the ball. the third - why is symonds not bowling spin ? half his effectiveness is lost if he bowls seam-up.

That is what bothers me more than losing.  Boneheaded decision.....Bangar as much as I admire players like him who gut it out in the domestics and give it their all just are not first change bowlers in a professional set up.

There were more decisions flawed than this one .
They lost 75% of  game by their batting. While RS made up a little at end , but at no stage you want Venu and VVS in middle and for longer period.
When Giily was out RS,Afridi or Symmonds should have been send. VVSl could fit in if Venu had gone. Being too bookish and knowledgble are not what is captaincy about. You have to be street smart capabale of making instinctive decisions. That is why MSD, VS etc would do better than likes of VVS or RD( He was still OK , a little more defensive like his bat though)

Totally agree. And thats the reason i like MSD and VS as captain a lot. They seems to be always aware of match situation.

Eggjacktly..
..when it comes to captaincy .. VS, MSD (and Kaif) are street-smart/highly aware (in making decisions and leading/motivating teams) whereas VVS and RD are bookish. SG is somewhat in the middle and has an amazing eye for talent - I mean to pick McCullum, Ishant and pay them top $s..great decision!!

Don't forget Tinda... a nobody that SG picked... Wonder who identified Gony...the lad seems to be a good bowler

Dinda, you mean. isn't Tinda a vegetable?

Yep.. and I love "Bharva Tinda" (stuffed)

oh, sounds yummy. i just found a recipe as well.

http://www.mamtaskitchen.com/recipe_display.php?id=12813

Oh, I feel like eating it too.. but we don't find Tinda here. Actually it not widely available even in S India.

the only time i've had it was when i was in delhi. i need to see if i can find it some place here. 'tindora'/kovakkai can be found, if i dare to go to the indian store.

ps: since this match is history, it's okay to hijck it into a food thread, i s'pose?

BTW, LN2 says try replacing paneer with freshly ground peanuts in that recipe.

[pipsqueak]

are boiled vegetables out of fashion now?

they are staple - but stuffed tinda sounds very appetizing esp. since i've just had a bag of baby carrots and some cherry tomatoes since morning.

[Libran]

Yes Dinda.... not Tinda

Now...back to DC vs Devils and the trashing the former got ...

I lost points on the pick'em league... on two consecutive days...

[Libran]

i think the crucial point was sehwag's dropped catch . you CANNOT drop players like sehwag in 2020. the other sanjay bangar - he is a third grade bowler and should never be handed the ball. the third - why is symonds not bowling spin ? half his effectiveness is lost if he bowls seam-up.

That is what bothers me more than losing.  Boneheaded decision.....Bangar as much as I admire players like him who gut it out in the domestics and give it their all just are not first change bowlers in a professional set up.

There were more decisions flawed than this one .
They lost 75% of  game by their batting. While RS made up a little at end , but at no stage you want Venu and VVS in middle and for longer period.
When Giily was out RS,Afridi or Symmonds should have been send. VVSl could fit in if Venu had gone. Being too bookish and knowledgble are not what is captaincy about. You have to be street smart capabale of making instinctive decisions. That is why MSD, VS etc would do better than likes of VVS or RD( He was still OK , a little more defensive like his bat though)

Totally agree. And thats the reason i like MSD and VS as captain a lot. They seems to be always aware of match situation.

Eggjacktly..
..when it comes to captaincy .. VS, MSD (and Kaif) are street-smart/highly aware (in making decisions and leading/motivating teams) whereas VVS and RD are bookish. SG is somewhat in the middle and has an amazing eye for talent - I mean to pick McCullum, Ishant and pay them top $s..great decision!!

Don't forget Tinda... a nobody that SG picked... Wonder who identified Gony...the lad seems to be a good bowler

Dinda, you mean. isn't Tinda a vegetable?

Yep.. and I love "Bharva Tinda" (stuffed)

oh, sounds yummy. i just found a recipe as well.

http://www.mamtaskitchen.com/recipe_display.php?id=12813

Oh, I feel like eating it too.. but we don't find Tinda here. Actually it not widely available even in S India.

the only time i've had it was when i was in delhi. i need to see if i can find it some place here. 'tindora'/kovakkai can be found, if i dare to go to the indian store.

ps: since this match is history, it's okay to hijck it into a food thread, i s'pose?

If Tinda = kovakkai ...then WN will be happy to know that we find Tinda in the market everytime we go there... So it is actually widely available in S-India, Karnataka, Bangalore , Madivala Market ... less than one km from the beginning of the road, the first three shops on the right side... 

[pipsqueak]

i think the crucial point was sehwag's dropped catch . you CANNOT drop players like sehwag in 2020. the other sanjay bangar - he is a third grade bowler and should never be handed the ball. the third - why is symonds not bowling spin ? half his effectiveness is lost if he bowls seam-up.

That is what bothers me more than losing.  Boneheaded decision.....Bangar as much as I admire players like him who gut it out in the domestics and give it their all just are not first change bowlers in a professional set up.

There were more decisions flawed than this one .
They lost 75% of  game by their batting. While RS made up a little at end , but at no stage you want Venu and VVS in middle and for longer period.
When Giily was out RS,Afridi or Symmonds should have been send. VVSl could fit in if Venu had gone. Being too bookish and knowledgble are not what is captaincy about. You have to be street smart capabale of making instinctive decisions. That is why MSD, VS etc would do better than likes of VVS or RD( He was still OK , a little more defensive like his bat though)

Totally agree. And thats the reason i like MSD and VS as captain a lot. They seems to be always aware of match situation.

Eggjacktly..
..when it comes to captaincy .. VS, MSD (and Kaif) are street-smart/highly aware (in making decisions and leading/motivating teams) whereas VVS and RD are bookish. SG is somewhat in the middle and has an amazing eye for talent - I mean to pick McCullum, Ishant and pay them top $s..great decision!!

Don't forget Tinda... a nobody that SG picked... Wonder who identified Gony...the lad seems to be a good bowler

Dinda, you mean. isn't Tinda a vegetable?

Yep.. and I love "Bharva Tinda" (stuffed)

oh, sounds yummy. i just found a recipe as well.

http://www.mamtaskitchen.com/recipe_display.php?id=12813

Oh, I feel like eating it too.. but we don't find Tinda here. Actually it not widely available even in S India.

the only time i've had it was when i was in delhi. i need to see if i can find it some place here. 'tindora'/kovakkai can be found, if i dare to go to the indian store.

ps: since this match is history, it's okay to hijck it into a food thread, i s'pose?

BTW, LN2 says try replacing paneer with freshly ground peanuts in that recipe.

ah, thanks for that tip. in pursuit of tindas, i go!