Topic: Hear Hayden mocking Indian accent (Read 1102 times)

Cernunnos · « **on:** February 28, 2008, 11:01:43 AM »

http://www.triplem.com.au/brisbane/sport/haydenspray.html

Three cheers to the Chennai Kings (or whatever) ..

cricinfo · « **Reply #1 on:** February 28, 2008, 11:20:44 AM »

Cerru what to hear...it is so shameful ...BCCI should have lodged a strong protest with ACB and suspend Hayden from playing in IPL . But we are a country where we are always ready to lick white-ass...does not surprise me anymore specially when i found so-called educated indians comparing SG to Monkey .We deserve this...

feverpitch · « **Reply #2 on:** February 28, 2008, 11:41:36 AM »

In so far as the mocking tone used by Hayden to mimic how Indians speak is used derogatorily and as a marker of identity, shouldn't this also qualify as racism? In which case, shouldn't the ICC be acting peremptorily rather than wait for the BCCI lodge a protest? Would k-i-c care to explain?

winningnow · « **Reply #3 on:** February 28, 2008, 12:16:56 PM »

Is there a way to flood this station with emails/comments?

I definitely want to send them the link to the "Andrew Symonds = Monkey research" article posted by Gouravk

kban1 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 28, 2008, 12:18:56 PM »

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In so far as the mocking tone used by Hayden to mimic how Indians speak is used derogatorily and as a marker of identity, shouldn't this also qualify as racism? In which case, shouldn't the ICC be acting peremptorily rather than wait for the BCCI lodge a protest? Would k-i-c care to explain?

I think Kadambari Murali in HT advanced the same argument as well -- mockery based on accent could be termed as racism.

BTW, why do you want others to explain what is already apparent to most ? ostritches with their head stuck in the sand and pining for the glory days of the raj will not understand no matter who does the explaining.

cricinfo · « **Reply #5 on:** February 28, 2008, 12:21:55 PM »

Here is the feedback section to these aussie bastards ...

http://www.triplem.com.au/brisbane/feedback/index.html

dextrous · « **Reply #6 on:** February 28, 2008, 12:32:45 PM »

Quote from: kban1 on February 28, 2008, 12:18:56 PM

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In so far as the mocking tone used by Hayden to mimic how Indians speak is used derogatorily and as a marker of identity, shouldn't this also qualify as racism? In which case, shouldn't the ICC be acting peremptorily rather than wait for the BCCI lodge a protest? Would k-i-c care to explain?

I think Kadambari Murali in HT advanced the same argument as well -- mockery based on accent could be termed as racism.

BTW, why do you want others to explain what is already apparent to most ? ostritches with their head stuck in the sand and pining for the glory days of the raj will not understand no matter who does the explaining.

hey, now, rams thinks hayden is one of the "good guys"

time2frenzy · « **Reply #7 on:** February 28, 2008, 12:55:42 PM »

I think BCCI shud immediately throw away these Aussie racists from IPL , but with Modi/Shahs at helm, its never going to happen...

Cernunnos · « **Reply #8 on:** February 28, 2008, 01:14:23 PM »

Quote from: feverpitch on February 28, 2008, 11:41:36 AM

In so far as the mocking tone used by Hayden to mimic how Indians speak is used derogatorily and as a marker of identity, shouldn't this also qualify as racism? In which case, shouldn't the ICC be acting peremptorily rather than wait for the BCCI lodge a protest? Would k-i-c care to explain?

Hayden was trying his best to speak in Ishant Sharma's accent. How is that racist?

k-i-c

dextrous · « **Reply #9 on:** February 28, 2008, 01:30:47 PM »

Quote from: Cernunnos on February 28, 2008, 01:14:23 PM

Quote from: feverpitch on February 28, 2008, 11:41:36 AM
In so far as the mocking tone used by Hayden to mimic how Indians speak is used derogatorily and as a marker of identity, shouldn't this also qualify as racism? In which case, shouldn't the ICC be acting peremptorily rather than wait for the BCCI lodge a protest? Would k-i-c care to explain?

Hayden was trying his best to speak in Ishant Sharma's accent. How is that racist?

k-i-c

wow.

teamindia · « **Reply #10 on:** February 28, 2008, 03:08:34 PM »

Quote from: time2frenzy on February 28, 2008, 12:55:42 PM

I think BCCI shud immediately throw away these Aussie racists from IPL , but with Modi/Shahs at helm, its never going to happen...

No. Let them come to India and give them the time of their life..

kban1 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 28, 2008, 05:44:58 PM »

Quote from: Cernunnos on February 28, 2008, 01:14:23 PM

Quote from: feverpitch on February 28, 2008, 11:41:36 AM
In so far as the mocking tone used by Hayden to mimic how Indians speak is used derogatorily and as a marker of identity, shouldn't this also qualify as racism? In which case, shouldn't the ICC be acting peremptorily rather than wait for the BCCI lodge a protest? Would k-i-c care to explain?

Hayden was trying his best to speak in Ishant Sharma's accent. How is that racist?

Whether it is racist or not is arguable, generally speaking.

But given the standards that have been defined to judge racism this cricketing season down under, the mocking tone of the comments with the emphasis on poor diction, pronunciation and language usage in Hayden's mimicry leaves it very much open to be judged as racism --making fun of an accent of a non native English speaker.

Remember, racism is about perception and given the standards as set by monkeygate, this line of argument flies just as well.

winningnow · « **Reply #12 on:** February 28, 2008, 06:07:15 PM »

Quote from: kban1 on February 28, 2008, 05:44:58 PM

Quote from: Cernunnos on February 28, 2008, 01:14:23 PM
Quote from: feverpitch on February 28, 2008, 11:41:36 AM
In so far as the mocking tone used by Hayden to mimic how Indians speak is used derogatorily and as a marker of identity, shouldn't this also qualify as racism? In which case, shouldn't the ICC be acting peremptorily rather than wait for the BCCI lodge a protest? Would k-i-c care to explain?

Hayden was trying his best to speak in Ishant Sharma's accent. How is that racist?

Whether it is racist or not is arguable, generally speaking.

But given the standards that have been defined to judge racism this cricketing season down under, the mocking tone of the comments with the emphasis on poor diction, pronunciation and language usage in Hayden's mimicry leaves it very much open to be judged as racism --making fun of an accent of a non native English speaker.

Remember, racism is about perception and given the standards as set by monkeygate, this line of argument flies just as well.

Agree...

ramshorns · « **Reply #13 on:** February 28, 2008, 06:24:05 PM »

Quote from: dextrous on February 28, 2008, 12:32:45 PM

Quote from: kban1 on February 28, 2008, 12:18:56 PM
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In so far as the mocking tone used by Hayden to mimic how Indians speak is used derogatorily and as a marker of identity, shouldn't this also qualify as racism? In which case, shouldn't the ICC be acting peremptorily rather than wait for the BCCI lodge a protest? Would k-i-c care to explain?

I think Kadambari Murali in HT advanced the same argument as well -- mockery based on accent could be termed as racism.

BTW, why do you want others to explain what is already apparent to most ? ostritches with their head stuck in the sand and pining for the glory days of the raj will not understand no matter who does the explaining.

hey, now, rams thinks hayden is one of the "good guys"

I never condone over the top behaviour. Having said that from the things I read about Hayden especially things related to India and his admiration for the culture I happen to like him and think he is a good guy.

feverpitch · « **Reply #14 on:** February 28, 2008, 06:29:52 PM »

Quote from: ramshorns on February 28, 2008, 06:24:05 PM

I never condone over the top behaviour. Having said that from the things I read about Hayden especially things related to India and his admiration for the culture I happen to like him and think he is a good guy.

Salaam [Brown] Sahib!

You are rich!!!!!

cricinfo · « **Reply #15 on:** February 28, 2008, 06:34:19 PM »

Quote from: feverpitch on February 28, 2008, 06:29:52 PM

Quote from: ramshorns on February 28, 2008, 06:24:05 PM
I never condone over the top behaviour. Having said that from the things I read about Hayden especially things related to India and his admiration for the culture I happen to like him and think he is a good guy.

Salaam [Brown] Sahib!

You are rich!!!!!

VVS will be ashamed that he has such fans

teamindia · « **Reply #16 on:** February 28, 2008, 06:34:30 PM »

Quote from: ramshorns on February 28, 2008, 06:24:05 PM

Quote from: dextrous on February 28, 2008, 12:32:45 PM
Quote from: kban1 on February 28, 2008, 12:18:56 PM
Quote
In so far as the mocking tone used by Hayden to mimic how Indians speak is used derogatorily and as a marker of identity, shouldn't this also qualify as racism? In which case, shouldn't the ICC be acting peremptorily rather than wait for the BCCI lodge a protest? Would k-i-c care to explain?

I think Kadambari Murali in HT advanced the same argument as well -- mockery based on accent could be termed as racism.

BTW, why do you want others to explain what is already apparent to most ? ostritches with their head stuck in the sand and pining for the glory days of the raj will not understand no matter who does the explaining.

hey, now, rams thinks hayden is one of the "good guys"
I never condone over the top behaviour. Having said that from the things I read about Hayden especially things related to India and his admiration for the culture I happen to like him and think he is a good guy.

Oh...
- mimicking a player.
- calling another a obnoxious weed.
- inviting a fellow half of your age to boxing ring.
- Trying to support the lie that the monkey was telling.

Great admiration I must say.

pipsqueak · « **Reply #17 on:** February 28, 2008, 06:35:07 PM »

Hayden is a devout Roman Catholic and says

"When I’m in trouble, I ask: ‘What would Christ do?'"

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Hayden

winningnow · « **Reply #18 on:** February 28, 2008, 06:39:02 PM »

Quote from: cricinfo on February 28, 2008, 06:34:19 PM

Quote from: feverpitch on February 28, 2008, 06:29:52 PM
Quote from: ramshorns on February 28, 2008, 06:24:05 PM
I never condone over the top behaviour. Having said that from the things I read about Hayden especially things related to India and his admiration for the culture I happen to like him and think he is a good guy.

Salaam [Brown] Sahib!

You are rich!!!!!

VVS will be ashamed that he has such fans

VVS .. what has he got to do with this issue

ramshorns · « **Reply #19 on:** February 28, 2008, 06:42:06 PM »

Quote from: teamindia on February 28, 2008, 06:34:30 PM

Quote from: ramshorns on February 28, 2008, 06:24:05 PM
Quote from: dextrous on February 28, 2008, 12:32:45 PM
Quote from: kban1 on February 28, 2008, 12:18:56 PM
Quote
In so far as the mocking tone used by Hayden to mimic how Indians speak is used derogatorily and as a marker of identity, shouldn't this also qualify as racism? In which case, shouldn't the ICC be acting peremptorily rather than wait for the BCCI lodge a protest? Would k-i-c care to explain?

I think Kadambari Murali in HT advanced the same argument as well -- mockery based on accent could be termed as racism.

BTW, why do you want others to explain what is already apparent to most ? ostritches with their head stuck in the sand and pining for the glory days of the raj will not understand no matter who does the explaining.

hey, now, rams thinks hayden is one of the "good guys"
I never condone over the top behaviour. Having said that from the things I read about Hayden especially things related to India and his admiration for the culture I happen to like him and think he is a good guy.

Oh...
- mimicking a player.
- calling another a obnoxious weed.
- inviting a fellow half of your age to boxing ring.
- Trying to support the lie that the monkey was telling.

Great admiration I must say.

Look come with something more than some quotes from here and there or talk shows.

There were times I mimicked people too. So what does that make me some kind of an outcast.....No need going overboard on simple things...

inoc · « **Reply #20 on:** February 28, 2008, 06:42:49 PM »

Quote from: pipsqueak on February 28, 2008, 06:35:07 PM

Hayden is a devout Roman Catholic and says

"When I’m in trouble, I ask: ‘What would Christ do?'"

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Hayden

hey pips welcome back. mwah mwah

teamindia · « **Reply #21 on:** February 28, 2008, 06:47:03 PM »

Quote from: ramshorns on February 28, 2008, 06:42:06 PM

Quote from: teamindia on February 28, 2008, 06:34:30 PM
Quote from: ramshorns on February 28, 2008, 06:24:05 PM
Quote from: dextrous on February 28, 2008, 12:32:45 PM
Quote from: kban1 on February 28, 2008, 12:18:56 PM
Quote
In so far as the mocking tone used by Hayden to mimic how Indians speak is used derogatorily and as a marker of identity, shouldn't this also qualify as racism? In which case, shouldn't the ICC be acting peremptorily rather than wait for the BCCI lodge a protest? Would k-i-c care to explain?

I think Kadambari Murali in HT advanced the same argument as well -- mockery based on accent could be termed as racism.

BTW, why do you want others to explain what is already apparent to most ? ostritches with their head stuck in the sand and pining for the glory days of the raj will not understand no matter who does the explaining.

hey, now, rams thinks hayden is one of the "good guys"
I never condone over the top behaviour. Having said that from the things I read about Hayden especially things related to India and his admiration for the culture I happen to like him and think he is a good guy.

Oh...
- mimicking a player.
- calling another a obnoxious weed.
- inviting a fellow half of your age to boxing ring.
- Trying to support the lie that the monkey was telling.

Great admiration I must say.

Look come with something more than some quotes from here and there or talk shows.

There were times I mimicked people too. So what does that make me some kind of an outcast.....No need going overboard on simple things...

Really? Show me the great stuff the guy has said/written that you listened/read and us poor souls missed.

Blwe_torch · « **Reply #22 on:** February 28, 2008, 06:49:39 PM »

Quote from: inoc on February 28, 2008, 06:42:49 PM

Quote from: pipsqueak on February 28, 2008, 06:35:07 PM
Hayden is a devout Roman Catholic and says

"When I’m in trouble, I ask: ‘What would Christ do?'"

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Hayden

hey pips welcome back. mwah mwah

control...control.....

Libran · « **Reply #23 on:** February 28, 2008, 08:07:22 PM »

Quote from: cricinfo on February 28, 2008, 06:34:19 PM

Quote from: feverpitch on February 28, 2008, 06:29:52 PM
Quote from: ramshorns on February 28, 2008, 06:24:05 PM
I never condone over the top behaviour. Having said that from the things I read about Hayden especially things related to India and his admiration for the culture I happen to like him and think he is a good guy.

Salaam [Brown] Sahib!

You are rich!!!!!

VVS will be ashamed that he has such fans

So long as nothing is said against VVS...anything goes

ramshorns · « **Reply #24 on:** February 28, 2008, 08:31:58 PM »

Quote from: ravi1010 on February 28, 2008, 08:07:22 PM

Quote from: cricinfo on February 28, 2008, 06:34:19 PM
Quote from: feverpitch on February 28, 2008, 06:29:52 PM
Quote from: ramshorns on February 28, 2008, 06:24:05 PM
I never condone over the top behaviour. Having said that from the things I read about Hayden especially things related to India and his admiration for the culture I happen to like him and think he is a good guy.

Salaam [Brown] Sahib!

You are rich!!!!!

VVS will be ashamed that he has such fans

So long as nothing is said against VVS...anything goes

or for that matter Ganguly especially here.....

Libran · « **Reply #25 on:** February 28, 2008, 09:08:22 PM »

Quote from: ramshorns on February 28, 2008, 08:31:58 PM

Quote from: ravi1010 on February 28, 2008, 08:07:22 PM
Quote from: cricinfo on February 28, 2008, 06:34:19 PM
Quote from: feverpitch on February 28, 2008, 06:29:52 PM
Quote from: ramshorns on February 28, 2008, 06:24:05 PM
I never condone over the top behaviour. Having said that from the things I read about Hayden especially things related to India and his admiration for the culture I happen to like him and think he is a good guy.

Salaam [Brown] Sahib!

You are rich!!!!!

VVS will be ashamed that he has such fans

So long as nothing is said against VVS...anything goes
or for that matter Ganguly especially here.....

Read right... anything includes Ganguly

sudzz · « **Reply #26 on:** February 28, 2008, 10:13:36 PM »

The only and the best way to get back to Hayden is to clean bowl him off the first ball (off Ishant of course) two three times on the trot.

There is no sense in engaging in verbal duels with filth like Hayden and the rest of the ex-con's. See there was a reason why the Queen of England wanted these obnoxious humans out of her system and not contaminate the general gene pool of the English. Now the devout catholic has gone and proved it in more words than one!!!!

keep-it-cool · « **Reply #27 on:** February 29, 2008, 05:49:15 AM »

Quote from: Cernunnos on February 28, 2008, 01:14:23 PM

Quote from: feverpitch on February 28, 2008, 11:41:36 AM
In so far as the mocking tone used by Hayden to mimic how Indians speak is used derogatorily and as a marker of identity, shouldn't this also qualify as racism? In which case, shouldn't the ICC be acting peremptorily rather than wait for the BCCI lodge a protest? Would k-i-c care to explain?

Hayden was trying his best to speak in Ishant Sharma's accent. How is that racist?

k-i-c

well, thanks for answering on my behalf.

i dont find this racist. in poor taste, yes. racist, no.

gouravk · « **Reply #28 on:** February 29, 2008, 05:58:40 AM »

right. just as i dont find monkey racist.

sudzz · « **Reply #29 on:** February 29, 2008, 06:42:37 AM »

"I am sick of political correctness. Someone asked Hayden what he thought of Harbhajan and he gave his view. Aren't you allowed to give an opinion any more? It's bullshit.''
Jeff Thomson says it as he sees it. In the prelude, Matthew Hayden had called Harbhajan Singh an "obnoxious weed" on radio and was criticised widely for that

http://content-gulf.cricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/328723.html

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