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[LosingNow]

Now that he has scored his big century and won us a final. Whether we win the series or not...nothing can diminish his innings yesterday.

So the question is - should he retire from ODIs now that he has reached the top. Should he go on the top.. and prolong his career in the real game - Tests. What is left for him to prove in ODIs?

I know it is a personal decision and very few athletes/sportsmen have had the courage to do it ..but worth a thought and some discussion.


PS: this thread is not motivated by the newrathi vs maharathi theme. I am genuinely trying to understand ..what people on the DG feel about an athlete (specifically someone so dear to us, Sachin) saying goodbye when he is still on top. IMO, if he does it, he will be immortalized in the annals of Indian (if not world) cricket

[OldPal]

I would say , he should try to play a calculated quick fire inngs tomorrow  and then throw towels from odi (if Ind win, else one more game) .
But that is what i say . if he feels against . I am with sachin . but he should be prepared if he is treated like SG or RD in future.

[LosingNow]

but he should be prepared if he is treated like SG or RD in future.

Please don't say that ..  It is really sad, pathetic and heart-breaking that icons like SG, RD were treated this way! He (and every player, not only the icons) should expect and get professional treatment

[OldPal]

but he should be prepared if he is treated like SG or RD in future.

Please don't say that ..  It is really sad, pathetic and heart-breaking that icons like SG, RD were treated this way! He (and every player, not only the icons) should expect and get professional treatment

Well .. RD is no more captain . SG is not offered cataincy .SRT will not captain if offered. Thus as long as these players can prove their vaule over some some youngesters like RS,GG,RU,SR etc .. They will be preferred by the captain. Once the Maharathi's feel that they are not good enuf to compete with youngesters.. they should call it a day .
If asked MSD's preferance ,between (GG and RD ) Vs (RD and SG), I think answer is clear in MSD's mind.
similary Sachin knows he can play for a year or two at most, it is obviously his call , and he may want a graceful exit.
but at this period of time, Sahin should play what the team demands and not score X number of runs in Y balls to seal a place in next match .

[teamindia]

I would want him to announce now that he will retire after 2008 Champions Trophy. Then we will have enough time to give him the farewell he deserves.

[WicketView]

I think if Sachin cares about a grand exit, he should retire now. Announcing that he will retire after 2008 CT,as teamindia suggests will make him immune to the RD/SG type of stuff, however, it does not guarantee his going out with a bang.

However, as I have said quite a few times before on the DG, I consider this sort of wish to be a type of selfishness, one which these people have admittedly earned a right to. In Sachin's case, as we talk about retirement we have threads runnings about who should be opening the innings as his partner, and I think it is fair to say that there is no single answer written with conviction. So, in this situation, I think it would be great for the team to have one of these two openers in good shape, while we tinker with the other. Once we have a decent answer to the other, we can tinker with the first. That, is what I think it would be from the perspective of the side.

 

[openforum]

Now that he has scored his big century and won us a final. Whether we win the series or not...nothing can diminish his innings yesterday.

So the question is - should he retire from ODIs now that he has reached the top. Should he go on the top.. and prolong his career in the real game - Tests. What is left for him to prove in ODIs?

I know it is a personal decision and very few athletes/sportsmen have had the courage to do it ..but worth a thought and some discussion.


PS: this thread is not motivated by the newrathi vs maharathi theme. I am genuinely trying to understand ..what people on the DG feel about an athlete (specifically someone so dear to us, Sachin) saying goodbye when he is still on top. IMO, if he does it, he will be immortalized in the annals of Indian (if not world) cricket

I was wishing for 50 hundreds but I guess thats not realistic. If india wins the cup and he retires, that would be great.

[RicePlateReddy]

I think that irrespective of the result of this series, he will not play in every game here onwards and skip most matches and series.

He will keep open the possibility of playing in World Cups. The lack of success there rankles him big time. Backed by this new look team, he wouldn't let a chance at the big prize go begging.

[inoc]

I would want him to announce now that he will retire after 2008 Champions Trophy. Then we will have enough time to give him the farewell he deserves.

i think he should do no such thing.

i had asked a similar question regarding SG during the fag end of the english tour (unfortunately that thread went down the drain like most SG related threads do). i had reasons to. I could see SG, although playing the best he had for a long time, was nearing the end and a decision time was apparent.

For, SRT I dont think the time has come yet. He will be 35 next month a kind of watershed in cricketing circles.

Most continue beyond 35 as they are deemed irreplaceable and nobody is in the near vicinity to take up the spot. otherwise they are leaders who by virtue of their position (and of course ability) hold on to their place longer.

SRT is not a leader, as in not the captain. His position in the side is therefore only linked to form and performance.

at present his test form is above par.

as an ODI player he possesses all the characteristics of the younger player who would replace him (SR/ RBW/ fielding etc) plus has the form and commitment to carry on playing.

as epitomised by the innings today his hunger to perform is still there.

other than a sudden catastrophic drop in form his place in the side is not questioned either.

there is an argument that he should retire from ODIs to prolong his test career but having followed him closely for all these years i dont think SRT is that kind of an individual. he is fiercely proud of his performances and the day he thinks he is not good enough to perform in any form of the game he will hang up his boots. this is evident from the reports that SRT was not happy that he was not in the T20 world cup squad.

IMO when the time comes when he has to think of giving up one form of the game to prolong another he will quit the game altogether. i cannot see him just playing tests. either he is good enough for both or not altogether. it is not as if he has to prove something to anybody anymore in either forms of the game.

thus, if he can carry on playing like he did today he should not contemplate retirement in either form of the game, till he is sure that his ability has dipped to an extent that he cannot carry on.

[Vick]

no imo he shouldnt. He is not RD and SG, there is huge difference between those two and SRT in ODIs. IMO SRT had an outside chance of playing in WC11, he will be 38 and i know several guys who have played in WC at that age. He is still enough to run sharp singles. And we havent found the one opener yet so even from team perspective we need him. Once we find a decent opener we should start resting him as often as possible. Need to give chance to Rahane and M Vijay in few games at least on A tours.

[dlee1]

yes srt rd and sg are in diff league in odi and i would say it is ufair ot compare alll 3 against each other but for me each of them have contributed a lot in terms of winning knocks in india's success in odi.but one must not forget that the he is gonna be treated the same way as rd/sg if he does not perform and the reason i say that is coz of msd.he see to have been given a free hand and i personally feel he is taking it a bit too far and has prob taken it to his head...so dont even be under the impression that he is gonna do good with srt..am sure if srt had not scored the century yesterday ad even flopped in the coming final msd would have certainly done something as harsh as what he did before

[justforkix]

I would want him to announce now that he will retire after 2008 Champions Trophy. Then we will have enough time to give him the farewell he deserves.

I suspect that he is planning to do that too.

[cricinfo]

I would want him to announce now that he will retire after 2008 Champions Trophy. Then we will have enough time to give him the farewell he deserves.

I suspect that he is planning to do that too.

as usual a lot of people will eat crow...he will play the next WC ...incidentally his last one where he brings us the cup

[WicketView]

I would want him to announce now that he will retire after 2008 Champions Trophy. Then we will have enough time to give him the farewell he deserves.

I suspect that he is planning to do that too.

as usual a lot of people will eat crow...he will play the next WC ...incidentally his last one where he brings us the cup

Wow that is quite a statement. I can assure you that few on this forum will mind eating such crow.

[cricinfo]

I would want him to announce now that he will retire after 2008 Champions Trophy. Then we will have enough time to give him the farewell he deserves.

I suspect that he is planning to do that too.

as usual a lot of people will eat crow...he will play the next WC ...incidentally his last one where he brings us the cup

Wow that is quite a statement. I can assure you that few on this forum will mind eating such crow.

seeing him through years...and trying to understand his mindset , I feel he feels the pain of not having the WC with India and he wants to do it for the country...for himself.I think he will go into a preservation mode in a year or so and cut down on ODI/TT .He will save it all for WC, i feel he is capable of doing it

[achutank]

I would want him to announce now that he will retire after 2008 Champions Trophy. Then we will have enough time to give him the farewell he deserves.

I suspect that he is planning to do that too.

as usual a lot of people will eat crow...he will play the next WC ...incidentally his last one where he brings us the cup

Wow that is quite a statement. I can assure you that few on this forum will mind eating such crow.

seeing him through years...and trying to understand his mindset , I feel he feels the pain of not having the WC with India and he wants to do it for the country...for himself.I think he will go into a preservation mode in a year or so and cut down on ODI/TT .He will save it all for WC, i feel he is capable of doing it

sachin should retire at the wankade or eden gardens that would be fitting and if it is in the finals of the WC2011 then it would be a near miracle considering how much pain he is under when he plays every innings of ODI

[keep-it-cool]

I would want him to announce now that he will retire after 2008 Champions Trophy. Then we will have enough time to give him the farewell he deserves.

I suspect that he is planning to do that too.

as usual a lot of people will eat crow...he will play the next WC ...incidentally his last one where he brings us the cup

Wow that is quite a statement. I can assure you that few on this forum will mind eating such crow.

seeing him through years...and trying to understand his mindset , I feel he feels the pain of not having the WC with India and he wants to do it for the country...for himself.I think he will go into a preservation mode in a year or so and cut down on ODI/TT .He will save it all for WC, i feel he is capable of doing it

Well, I was just reading an article in which his friend, Atul Ranade, has been quoted as saying that his biggest ambition REMAINS winning a world cup for india. So, you may be right that he has it in the back of his mind.

Whether he can pull on till then and still retain a spot on merit, we'll have to wait and see .. it is still several years away.

I dont see why he should retire. He is doing very well and is not a misfit in today's game.

[Cover Point]

He should retire after the 2011 WC.

Until then he should play every third ODI game.... sit for 2 and play one ... etc etc

[hastalavistababy]

He should play as long as he is productive. these  criteria (newrathis/maharathis, young/old) are  trash . Let every body fight for their place. It applies for RD/SG/VVS/YS/HS too