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Would you take  [god] and mera advice and drop Gambhir and give Raina a go?
Will Mukesh get a chance instead of Uttappa?
Will we finally see Chawla in action?

Or are we still busy about IPL that we forget there is some real cricket to be played tomorrow?  :) ;D
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Re: In case you forgot - What's the team for tomorrow?
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2008, 12:12:17 PM »
I hope PC comes in for HS.. and Raina gets a game perhaps replacing praveen. Who is mukesh?
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Re: In case you forgot - What's the team for tomorrow?
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2008, 12:46:59 PM »
I hope PC comes in for HS.. and Raina gets a game perhaps replacing praveen. Who is mukesh?
the bookie  8)
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Re: In case you forgot - What's the team for tomorrow?
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2008, 03:53:32 PM »
Surprisingly cool responce for this thread this time. Whats wrong? Could be the because:
1. DG's most favourate (mahatarhies) RD / SG/ VSV are out of action.
2. DG's available favourate SRT is in bad patch.
3. DG's not so favourate MSD is in good nick and news as well.
4. With the names of maharathies appearing again due to IPL story; it has taken many DGians out of CB series!
5. Upcoming newrathies are not toasts of DGians as yet.
6. ??????????
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Re: In case you forgot - What's the team for tomorrow?
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2008, 04:09:40 PM »
maybe people are just realizing the worthlessness of 50 over game ...
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Re: In case you forgot - What's the team for tomorrow?
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2008, 04:45:48 PM »
Well, I think the real reaosn is that CB has become so long and a drag and folks hardly care anymore......
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Re: In case you forgot - What's the team for tomorrow?
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2008, 04:48:30 PM »
Surprisingly cool responce for this thread this time. Whats wrong? Could be the because:
1. DG's most favourate (mahatarhies) RD / SG/ VSV are out of action.
2. DG's available favourate SRT is in bad patch.
3. DG's not so favourate MSD is in good nick and news as well.
4. With the names of maharathies appearing again due to IPL story; it has taken many DGians out of CB series!
5. Upcoming newrathies are not toasts of DGians as yet.
6. ??????????

KKK I bought this whole series for 140 USD, you wouldnt believe I have not watched a single ODI fully till now.
Reasons are :
1.After the exhilirating test series I was mentally exhausted
2.ODIs have become so monotonous..specially one involving Australia
3.I watched the first ODI with lot of interest.But eventually felt this team is not capable of challenging the aussies, so lost interest
4.I think too much of ODI has made me loose my apetite for ODI.
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Re: In case you forgot - What's the team for tomorrow?
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2008, 04:49:40 PM »
jfk, cricinfo ... i think all of us have the same sentiments ... only different words to express them ... basically the sentiment is ... just get done with this stupid boring long-drawn worthless thing ...
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Re: In case you forgot - What's the team for tomorrow?
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2008, 04:54:44 PM »
just for the heck of it heres the team id like to see

dhoni (id like to see him open - take responsibility at the top of the order)
srt
yuvraj
rohit
sehwag
raina
irfan
harbhajan
sreesanth
ishant
munaf

thats 3 changes - sehwag, sreesanth, raina in and utthapa, praveen and the gateway out.
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Re: In case you forgot - What's the team for tomorrow?
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2008, 04:57:41 PM »
this is cheating by  [god] to prevent Gambhir from achieving the fluking rate target  :P
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Re: In case you forgot - What's the team for tomorrow?
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2008, 04:57:48 PM »
my team also has a number of changes  :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft:
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Re: In case you forgot - What's the team for tomorrow?
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2008, 06:13:48 PM »
jfk, cricinfo ... i think all of us have the same sentiments ... only different words to express them ... basically the sentiment is ... just get done with this stupid boring long-drawn worthless thing ...

What R U all talking? I am sure that the overall withdrawl signs on the DG here are ENTIRELY due to the absence of the favourate MAHARATHIES !! U mean RDs and SGs and VVSs have played ENTERTAINING, CHALLENGING, TOUGH cricket in the recent past ?? NO WAY........ As compared to this, the current CB series has lot of challenges for team india. They are a young side thrown in waters w/o much of experience, with a new leadership, and a leader who is fighting it out for a win match-by-match, trying his best to develop each member of his team for future, throwing them to challenges and supporting them as required what more u want for generating interest? It is said that never was a team seen in so much relaxed and enthuziastic and yet fighting mood in the past during the times of mahatarhies. ( u all may not agree as expected). RDs-SGs have played SELFISH CKT, RECORD BASED CKT, EGO DRIVEN CKT. This MSDs team is quiet free on ego scale. Thats why MSD  can openly blame RS for a run out and yet all the people in and around the squad had not made any hue and cry of it ( while the DGians here had written pages on MSD's arogance as they (?!) see it )
If SG ( or even RD) was in the shoes of MSD everything else in the series being absolutely same; I am 10000000% sure there would have been DIWALI festival on this DG for sure !!
My humble advice to everyone is to reset your batteries for the new born team, wear new goggles if reqd, salute and rest your beloved ones in your broad minds and be ready to enjoy a type of cricket which no body has brougt for we indian fans in the past, a fighting, passionate, tough cricket all for just one and the only one cause A WIN AND WIN AND ONLY WIN. Rest all secondary........that it seems is a new mantra of a new captain. What else u need? Want any more clearification..ask..........I will tell u the worthiness of taking interest.
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Re: In case you forgot - What's the team for tomorrow?
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2008, 07:48:04 PM »
bwu ha ha ha. its just a sign that ipl is more exciting prospect for  ball less maybe old fashioned anti change types. this dg with its ( supposed ) elite membership (like me) has spent 100 times more time discussing ipl auction than any odi cricket. its the sign of the future.

its exciting to see sg mess up akhtar rather than nehra :)

the last was just so kirans thread gets more responses
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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2008, 08:50:21 PM »
jfk, cricinfo ... i think all of us have the same sentiments ... only different words to express them ... basically the sentiment is ... just get done with this stupid boring long-drawn worthless thing ...

What R U all talking? I am sure that the overall withdrawl signs on the DG here are ENTIRELY due to the absence of the favourate MAHARATHIES !! U mean RDs and SGs and VVSs have played ENTERTAINING, CHALLENGING, TOUGH cricket in the recent past ?? NO WAY........ As compared to this, the current CB series has lot of challenges for team india. They are a young side thrown in waters w/o much of experience, with a new leadership, and a leader who is fighting it out for a win match-by-match, trying his best to develop each member of his team for future, throwing them to challenges and supporting them as required what more u want for generating interest? It is said that never was a team seen in so much relaxed and enthuziastic and yet fighting mood in the past during the times of mahatarhies. ( u all may not agree as expected). RDs-SGs have played SELFISH CKT, RECORD BASED CKT, EGO DRIVEN CKT. This MSDs team is quiet free on ego scale. Thats why MSD  can openly blame RS for a run out and yet all the people in and around the squad had not made any hue and cry of it ( while the DGians here had written pages on MSD's arogance as they (?!) see it )
If SG ( or even RD) was in the shoes of MSD everything else in the series being absolutely same; I am 10000000% sure there would have been DIWALI festival on this DG for sure !!
My humble advice to everyone is to reset your batteries for the new born team, wear new goggles if reqd, salute and rest your beloved ones in your broad minds and be ready to enjoy a type of cricket which no body has brougt for we indian fans in the past, a fighting, passionate, tough cricket all for just one and the only one cause A WIN AND WIN AND ONLY WIN. Rest all secondary........that it seems is a new mantra of a new captain. What else u need? Want any more clearification..ask..........I will tell u the worthiness of taking interest.
;D ;D
So you are back, supporting MSD. What happened to all the disillusionment with his batting?
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2008, 09:14:03 PM »
jfk, cricinfo ... i think all of us have the same sentiments ... only different words to express them ... basically the sentiment is ... just get done with this stupid boring long-drawn worthless thing ...

What R U all talking? I am sure that the overall withdrawl signs on the DG here are ENTIRELY due to the absence of the favourate MAHARATHIES !! U mean RDs and SGs and VVSs have played ENTERTAINING, CHALLENGING, TOUGH cricket in the recent past ?? NO WAY........ As compared to this, the current CB series has lot of challenges for team india. They are a young side thrown in waters w/o much of experience, with a new leadership, and a leader who is fighting it out for a win match-by-match, trying his best to develop each member of his team for future, throwing them to challenges and supporting them as required what more u want for generating interest? It is said that never was a team seen in so much relaxed and enthuziastic and yet fighting mood in the past during the times of mahatarhies. ( u all may not agree as expected). RDs-SGs have played SELFISH CKT, RECORD BASED CKT, EGO DRIVEN CKT. This MSDs team is quiet free on ego scale. Thats why MSD  can openly blame RS for a run out and yet all the people in and around the squad had not made any hue and cry of it ( while the DGians here had written pages on MSD's arogance as they (?!) see it )
If SG ( or even RD) was in the shoes of MSD everything else in the series being absolutely same; I am 10000000% sure there would have been DIWALI festival on this DG for sure !!
My humble advice to everyone is to reset your batteries for the new born team, wear new goggles if reqd, salute and rest your beloved ones in your broad minds and be ready to enjoy a type of cricket which no body has brougt for we indian fans in the past, a fighting, passionate, tough cricket all for just one and the only one cause A WIN AND WIN AND ONLY WIN. Rest all secondary........that it seems is a new mantra of a new captain. What else u need? Want any more clearification..ask..........I will tell u the worthiness of taking interest.
;D ;D
So you are back, supporting MSD. What happened to all the disillusionment with his batting?


He was for MSD before he was against him before he was for him
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Re: In case you forgot - What's the team for tomorrow?
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2008, 10:20:48 PM »
I thought gambhir was performing well until he was moved to opening slot?  May be we should move RU to number 1 and GG back to number 3. Is sehwag playing? If so, he should come in at 6.

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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2008, 10:53:50 PM »
No, I would keep GG in, and play him at the position that they want to accomodate him in. I would also get like to see KKD in in place of MSD. We seem to be into the finals unless we screw up badly. So, this may be a good time to give MSD a bit of a break before the important finals.
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« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2008, 02:26:56 AM »
jfk, cricinfo ... i think all of us have the same sentiments ... only different words to express them ... basically the sentiment is ... just get done with this stupid boring long-drawn worthless thing ...

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What R U all talking?


What are you talking about? My response later will clarify

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I am sure that the overall withdrawl signs on the DG here are ENTIRELY due to the absence of the favourate MAHARATHIES !! U mean RDs and SGs and VVSs have played ENTERTAINING, CHALLENGING, TOUGH cricket in the recent past ?? NO WAY

This is your opinion which seems to change with the seasons but I will not argue with you in this regard. Each one to his own.

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........ As compared to this, the current CB series has lot of challenges for team india.

you are naive if you expected anything else?

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They are a young side thrown in waters w/o much of experience, with a new leadership,

Which ones are different? i am talking of batsmen here;

MSD 102,GG 43,IP 91,SR 36,VS 182,RS 10,SRT 413,MT 1,RU 31, YS 200.

other than RS nobody is a newbie.

MSD was captain against the aussies and pak at home, 13 ODIs, with the same team as far as batsmen are concerned except SG.  What has failed india in this series is batting and the personnel have been the same.

A bit more detail in this regard with respect to batsmen.

VS veteran
SRT veteran
GG  already in the side, when the so called maharathi was playing. 40+ ODIs
YS veteran
RU already in the side
MSD
RS is the only different person in the side and playing well, the only inexperienced chap in the side.

your inexperienced side argument is solely based on RS.
otherwise it doesn’t hold much water. The most inexperienced one is the best performer. and we have sucked at batting in this series.

Don’t get me wrong I am not for one moment trying to be an advocate for SG. I have backed this policy of getting new people in but I do not buy the attempt to justify poor batting (and it has been poor so far in ODIs) by drawing the veil of youngsters/inexperience etc. The player replacing SG has been RS albeit not in his batting position and he has performed the poor batting performances are from the experienced guys.

IMO MSD is a good captain which i hope you agree despite your dillydallying with his eventual worth as an Indian player/captain but your analysis here is poor to say the least


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and a leader who is fighting it out for a win match-by-match, trying his best to develop each member of his team for future, throwing them to challenges and supporting them as required what more u want for generating interest?

Coming from you this is strange since you were critical of him days ago. I may hold this high ground since despite attacks i have held the view that MSD has the potential to be a great Indian captain, even when he dropped SG/RD.

MSD is not the first and last person to do this. SGs leadership qualities are well known even to the sceptical.

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It is said that never was a team seen in so much relaxed and enthuziastic and yet fighting mood in the past during the times of mahatarhies. ( u all may not agree as expected).

Who said this? Quotes/articles/personal interactions anything to substantiate the claim will be welcome.



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RDs-SGs have played SELFISH CKT, RECORD BASED CKT, EGO DRIVEN CKT.

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This MSDs team is quiet free on ego scale. is it?! Thats why MSD  can openly blame RS for a run out and yet all the people in and around the squad had not made any hue and cry of it ( while the DGians here had written pages on MSD's arogance as they (?!) see it )
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Even if it shows that the Indian team is unity exemplified MSD was wrong to publicly denounce his most inexperienced player. That it did not backfire on him does not exonerate his from poor leadership in his regard.

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If SG ( or even RD) was in the shoes of MSD everything else in the series being absolutely same; I am 10000000% sure there would have been DIWALI festival on this DG for sure !!
Not sure what you mean here. You mean losing every other match from winning situations brought about by our bowlers and screwed up by our batsmen (except one) would have resulted in celebrations !!! not by me – don’t know about others and cannot comment except that the number of zeroes you put in your statement does not make it more true or incorrect than it is.

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My humble advice to everyone is to reset your batteries for the new born team, wear new goggles if reqd, salute and rest your beloved ones in your broad minds and be ready to enjoy a type of cricket which no body has brougt for we indian fans in the past, a fighting, passionate, tough cricket all for just one and the only one cause A WIN AND WIN AND ONLY WIN. Rest all secondary........that it seems is a new mantra of a new captain. What else u need? Want any more clearification..ask..........I will tell u the worthiness of taking interest.


Very eloquent but this team is still led by the unimaginative/lost to the world batman/nincompoop (all your judgements if not verbatim a day or two ago). What changed?

i will not ask for clarifications since you shouldnt have any. anything you say now without apologies stinks

I was surprised when you started attacking MSD – i felt that it was asinine but kept quiet and now this volte face leaves me flabbergasted.
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awesome its all happening.
hayden going after sharma, sharma retorts with some FAST bowling, and some glares. i love it
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I was surprised when you started attacking MSD – i felt that it was asinine but kept quiet and now this volte face leaves me flabbergasted.

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He was for MSD before he was against him before he was for him

winningnow: So you are back, supporting MSD. What happened to all the disillusionment with his batting?

Surprised? u ll above?
well let me explain,........yes in between i was talking bit against MSD although basically (the earliest) die hard fan of his (ie since 31 oct 2005...jaipur 183 to be exact. infact i doubt as to how many have seen that 183 live? so much so that i had gone back and dug out the old pages around those dates only to see that not many had any prominent comments on that HISTORIC inngs on this DG. I am about to conduct a poll on this. )
My main agony was ( and to some extent is) that he is not batting up the order. But as i see it , a new MSD has developed a lasting power and is a 'functional / performing RD' in the making. Or i should say a MIANDAD in the making. That has slowly changed me back to his favour again. Moreover i read recently about his opinion about not batting up the order.........he needs someone to look after the middle and late part of inngs who does not exist. So he is developing others like RS, RU, GG to become one and the 'veterans' SRT, YS, VS are yet to perform. When this happens HE IS THINKING OF COMING UP THE ORDER....WELL ........this thought has boosted me again in his favour.
And let me tell u again, MSD is surely more than extraordinary for sure. He is MIANDAD (running+finisher)+  RICHARDS (hard hitter + dasher) + BREARILY (captain) +  GILCHRIST (wk) + RD (wkt sticker) in the making. U all will take time to change your prejudiced mind as he is not from any metros where many are from. Believe me and time will tell. As u can see he could maintain a healthy 40+ avg after 100+ ODIs which sometimes back when on 30 odd, many over here were arguing. Afterall he made me return to cricket on the day of 183 after a lul period of 4/5 yrs before that.
BTW: can we put in when each of u had made a debut as a MAD CKT FAN? ( I had done it in 1969 during a debut series of VISHY)
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And let me tell u again, MSD is surely more than extraordinary for sure. He is MIANDAD (running+finisher)+  RICHARDS (hard hitter + dasher) + BREARILY (captain) +  GILCHRIST (wk) + RD (wkt sticker) in the making

MSD must be the new [god]
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Definitely chasing 300+ today !!!

Stupid to play an extra bat on a flat track - now SRT+YS+VS have to bowl more than 10 overs !!!

This is prolly a turning point for Aus and against Ind in this CB series similar to what Perth was in the last VB series.....
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awesome! runout! hayden gone

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Some contreversy over Dhoni's WK glove webbing when he took Gilly's catch. Apprently it is illegal and match ref asked him to change it and he has done so !!!
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Bhajji SUCKS!!!
Why? I thought he brought them under control?

Yes. Dhoni has come to terms that Bhajji can at best be a very good containing bowler and not an attacking option. We, as fans must also realize that. India must play him only in ODIs and T-20s. He must no longer be considered for test matches.
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this sucks. i have no way of watching!!!
sopcast is blocked! ideas?
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Bhajji SUCKS!!!
Why? I thought he brought them under control?

Yes. Dhoni has come to terms that Bhajji can at best be a very good containing bowler and not an attacking option. We, as fans must also realize that. India must play him only in ODIs and T-20s. He must no longer be considered for test matches.
So he does not suck today, but in general for test matches. OK ... I thought you were saying something about today.
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this sucks. i have no way of watching!!!
sopcast is blocked! ideas?
I am having the same problem ... maybe sopcast is down.
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Bhajji SUCKS!!!
Why? I thought he brought them under control?
I think PC would have been a better choice. HS will not take any wickets. PC would probably give the same # of runs but at least get a wicket or will attack.
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Maybe, but today I will be thankful to bhaji for stopping that carnage that was going on. Unless he really screws up later.
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Bhajji SUCKS!!!
Why? I thought he brought them under control?

Yes. Dhoni has come to terms that Bhajji can at best be a very good containing bowler and not an attacking option. We, as fans must also realize that. India must play him only in ODIs and T-20s. He must no longer be considered for test matches.
So he does not suck today, but in general for test matches. OK ... I thought you were saying something about today.

you confused me with WN. I just threw in my 2 cents ;)
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