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[justforkix]

Some specifics about the substance that is lacking would be helpful, Blwe, in understanding your point .. that is, if you have one at all.

You tell me exactly, what the end-users, general public/ cricket lovers are going to gain out of this.
I know what the BCCI/ franchisees/ channel partners/ media are going to gain.............infact many of them may have already made a killing, but I am not interested in that.

International quality 20-20 matches, which seems to be gaining popularity among the younger generation who prefer to watch a 3-hr game to a 7-hr game or a 5-day game. The working folks can head out after work during a work-day and get entertained for 3 hrs....

Hmm..........thats a nice deal ofcourse.............but nothing new, given all the hype that IPL is generating.
It is after all pajama cricket yaar.

Why is it nothing new !!!! 20-20 is new. Working folks who cannot take off can watch only half a match of the D/N ODIs. It is equivalent of the domestic 20-20 competitions in England/SA/Aus but arguably with hgiher quality because of the best international players playing in it. With the teams being from different cities and playing a home and away leg, the fans from that city can truly support their team by going to the stadium and cheering for them. You or me may not like ODIs or 20-20 cricket, but there may be significantly big audience to watch it.

Let the audience decide whether it is a good idea or not, just the movies. If they are not entertained, they won't watch and it will be a flop. If they like it, it will be a hit.

We have played a whole lot of 4-4, 5-5, 8-8, 15-15.............20-20...........30-30 matches in our college days..........what's so new there?
Yes....we are only speculating here. That is all we do here anyway. The inter-city competition with foreign players playing for local teams..........home and away........... sounds like a cute little concept. The problem is, Indians are not that gullible.
We can wait and watch whether the scheme works or not for the spectators...........my guess is it won't..............but I wish all the best and hope it does succeed.

Well - u asked me wht the end-user gets and I told you.... 

[Blwe_torch]

Some specifics about the substance that is lacking would be helpful, Blwe, in understanding your point .. that is, if you have one at all.

You tell me exactly, what the end-users, general public/ cricket lovers are going to gain out of this.
I know what the BCCI/ franchisees/ channel partners/ media are going to gain.............infact many of them may have already made a killing, but I am not interested in that.

International quality 20-20 matches, which seems to be gaining popularity among the younger generation who prefer to watch a 3-hr game to a 7-hr game or a 5-day game. The working folks can head out after work during a work-day and get entertained for 3 hrs....

Hmm..........thats a nice deal ofcourse.............but nothing new, given all the hype that IPL is generating.
It is after all pajama cricket yaar.

Why is it nothing new !!!! 20-20 is new. Working folks who cannot take off can watch only half a match of the D/N ODIs. It is equivalent of the domestic 20-20 competitions in England/SA/Aus but arguably with hgiher quality because of the best international players playing in it. With the teams being from different cities and playing a home and away leg, the fans from that city can truly support their team by going to the stadium and cheering for them. You or me may not like ODIs or 20-20 cricket, but there may be significantly big audience to watch it.

Let the audience decide whether it is a good idea or not, just the movies. If they are not entertained, they won't watch and it will be a flop. If they like it, it will be a hit.

We have played a whole lot of 4-4, 5-5, 8-8, 15-15.............20-20...........30-30 matches in our college days..........what's so new there?
Yes....we are only speculating here. That is all we do here anyway. The inter-city competition with foreign players playing for local teams..........home and away........... sounds like a cute little concept. The problem is, Indians are not that gullible.
We can wait and watch whether the scheme works or not for the spectators...........my guess is it won't..............but I wish all the best and hope it does succeed.

Well - u asked me wht the end-user gets and I told you.... 

 ...........not enough!

[keep-it-cool]

I am glad to see that blwe sets high standards of the BCCI and the IPL .. after all, you only expect based on how good you think the giver is.

Maybe that is also the reason why he supports the ICL despite all the crap dished out so far!

[Blwe_torch]

I am glad to see that blwe sets high standards of the BCCI and the IPL .. after all, you only expect based on how good you think the giver is.

Maybe that is also the reason why he supports the ICL despite all the crap dished out so far!

I expect high standards from ppl like SG/SRK...Preity Zinta, etc..................and even Subhash Chandra ( ICL).
BCCI can only be an irksome botheration........a producer/ financer with a lot of money but generally a nuisense.

[Blwe_torch]

just an idea.........................kic can forward these to the franchisees.

Can we have the matches like a re-enactment of Mughal-e-azam?..............Anil Kumble of Bangalore can do the role-play of Akbar and Andrew Symonds of Delhi can be Salim...............a lady umpire can be the Anarkali...  " Saleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem" bellows Kumble...........

or it can be a battle of Mahabharat in between 2 teams....may be more can join in............."Shant ho jao gada-dhari bheem..........." Yudhisthira( RD) advices Bheem ( Yuvraj Singh)...............

or even the Ramayana.............Andrew Symonds( Hanuman) jumps from Delhi to Mohali....to rescue Seeta ( Priety Zinta)...with associated dialogues and Ram-leela type songs......

Another idea can be to have an interactive cricket match......................the fielding team poses some match related queries to the spectators. The best reply gets rewarded by way of asking the spectator to come down and participate in fielding.............or batting. Interactivity between spectators and players.........participations by spectators, can enhance the spectator experiences. 

[keep-it-cool]

Well, I'll definitely forward these to the ICL. I have a feeling they may need these more.

[dextrous]

I am glad to see that blwe sets high standards of the BCCI and the IPL .. after all, you only expect based on how good you think the giver is.

Maybe that is also the reason why he supports the ICL despite all the crap dished out so far!

right, whatever you say, Mr. BCCI

[keep-it-cool]

Dex, are you agreeing on Blwe's behalf or do you share this view as well?

[dextrous]

Dex, are you agreeing on Blwe's behalf or do you share this view as well?

im just noting that you've continued your anti-icl tirade. please continue your fight with blwe 

[Blwe_torch]

Dex, are you agreeing on Blwe's behalf or do you share this view as well?

there is nothing to agree here. I was just giving some possible scenarios for some wholesome cricket-based entertainment that BCCI is going to unleash on us. infact we are already tightenning our belts before being taken for a jolly ride.

btw...kic are u a channel partner or something of BCCI?.......................... the amount of energy, emotion and resources that you have expended will make BCCI blush in embarassment.

[Cover Point]

Dex, are you agreeing on Blwe's behalf or do you share this view as well?

there is nothing to agree here. I was just giving some possible scenarios for some wholesome cricket-based entertainment that BCCI is going to unleash on us. infact we are already tightenning our belts before being taken for a jolly ride.

btw...kic are u a channel partner or something of BCCI?.......................... the amount of energy, emotion and resources that you have expended will make BCCI blush in embarassment.

The question should be for you Gangulians. Are you endorsement partners for SG. The amount of energy spent by the Gangulians in not only fighting for him BUT in trying to decipher what he was thinking when he talked to the Selectors etc is amazing.

[Blwe_torch]

Dex, are you agreeing on Blwe's behalf or do you share this view as well?

there is nothing to agree here. I was just giving some possible scenarios for some wholesome cricket-based entertainment that BCCI is going to unleash on us. infact we are already tightenning our belts before being taken for a jolly ride.

btw...kic are u a channel partner or something of BCCI?.......................... the amount of energy, emotion and resources that you have expended will make BCCI blush in embarassment.

The question should be for you Gangulians. Are you endorsement partners for SG. The amount of energy spent by the Gangulians in not only fighting for him BUT in trying to decipher what he was thinking when he talked to the Selectors etc is amazing.

We do that as fans of various players.............most ppl do. You too do the same thing............so what...............it is better than supporting an organisation run by some old hags........corrupted politicians and some assorted businessmen.
 

[Cover Point]

Dex, are you agreeing on Blwe's behalf or do you share this view as well?

there is nothing to agree here. I was just giving some possible scenarios for some wholesome cricket-based entertainment that BCCI is going to unleash on us. infact we are already tightenning our belts before being taken for a jolly ride.

btw...kic are u a channel partner or something of BCCI?.......................... the amount of energy, emotion and resources that you have expended will make BCCI blush in embarassment.

The question should be for you Gangulians. Are you endorsement partners for SG. The amount of energy spent by the Gangulians in not only fighting for him BUT in trying to decipher what he was thinking when he talked to the Selectors etc is amazing.

We do that as fans of various players.............most ppl do. You too do the same thing............so what...............it is better than supporting an organisation run by some old hags........corrupted politicians and some assorted businessmen.
 

as opposed to supporting politician players who have becomee old hags and are into business for themselves? Ok

[Blwe_torch]

Dex, are you agreeing on Blwe's behalf or do you share this view as well?

there is nothing to agree here. I was just giving some possible scenarios for some wholesome cricket-based entertainment that BCCI is going to unleash on us. infact we are already tightenning our belts before being taken for a jolly ride.

btw...kic are u a channel partner or something of BCCI?.......................... the amount of energy, emotion and resources that you have expended will make BCCI blush in embarassment.

The question should be for you Gangulians. Are you endorsement partners for SG. The amount of energy spent by the Gangulians in not only fighting for him BUT in trying to decipher what he was thinking when he talked to the Selectors etc is amazing.

We do that as fans of various players.............most ppl do. You too do the same thing............so what...............it is better than supporting an organisation run by some old hags........corrupted politicians and some assorted businessmen.
 

as opposed to supporting politician players who have becomee old hags and are into business for themselves? Ok

khush reh yaar................teri recurring khujli ka ilaaj koi doctor hi kar sakta hai.

[Cover Point]

Dex, are you agreeing on Blwe's behalf or do you share this view as well?

there is nothing to agree here. I was just giving some possible scenarios for some wholesome cricket-based entertainment that BCCI is going to unleash on us. infact we are already tightenning our belts before being taken for a jolly ride.

btw...kic are u a channel partner or something of BCCI?.......................... the amount of energy, emotion and resources that you have expended will make BCCI blush in embarassment.

The question should be for you Gangulians. Are you endorsement partners for SG. The amount of energy spent by the Gangulians in not only fighting for him BUT in trying to decipher what he was thinking when he talked to the Selectors etc is amazing.

We do that as fans of various players.............most ppl do. You too do the same thing............so what...............it is better than supporting an organisation run by some old hags........corrupted politicians and some assorted businessmen.
 

as opposed to supporting politician players who have becomee old hags and are into business for themselves? Ok

khush reh yaar................teri recurring khujli ka ilaaj koi doctor hi kar sakta hai.

aur teri khujli ka ilaaj to Daaku ke paas bhi nahin hai!

[Blwe_torch]

Strange how ppl are trying to defend whatever is wrong with IPL using ICL as a handle!

[keep-it-cool]

Maybe I am a bcci partner, maybe I am not. Maybe I own a franchise maybe I don't. But there is no maybe in the fact that the IPL is a much better structured product than the ICL.

[Blwe_torch]

Maybe I am a bcci partner, maybe I am not. Maybe I own a franchise maybe I don't. But there is no maybe in the fact that the IPL is a much better structured product than the ICL.

I wish you were though! 
IPL is a better structure........but driven by the wrong ppl...............accept that.

[keep-it-cool]

Why? Whatever they have done on this front so far has been bang on.

[Blwe_torch]

Why? Whatever they have done on this front so far has been bang on.

we need to judge ppl by their antecedents..............not what they are about to do right, or not.

[justforkix]

just an idea.........................kic can forward these to the franchisees.

Can we have the matches like a re-enactment of Mughal-e-azam?..............Anil Kumble of Bangalore can do the role-play of Akbar and Andrew Symonds of Delhi can be Salim...............a lady umpire can be the Anarkali...  " Saleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem" bellows Kumble...........

or it can be a battle of Mahabharat in between 2 teams....may be more can join in............."Shant ho jao gada-dhari bheem..........." Yudhisthira( RD) advices Bheem ( Yuvraj Singh)...............

or even the Ramayana.............Andrew Symonds( Hanuman) jumps from Delhi to Mohali....to rescue Seeta ( Priety Zinta)...with associated dialogues and Ram-leela type songs......

Another idea can be to have an interactive cricket match......................the fielding team poses some match related queries to the spectators. The best reply gets rewarded by way of asking the spectator to come down and participate in fielding.............or batting. Interactivity between spectators and players.........participations by spectators, can enhance the spectator experiences. 

Now, looks like you have no real point and are only clutching at straws. Basically, whatever IPL/BCCI does is wrong and whatever ICL and Subash Chandra does is correct. Gotcha.....

[justforkix]

Why? Whatever they have done on this front so far has been bang on.

we need to judge ppl by their antecedents..............not what they are about to do right, or not.

I think  needs to start a similar thread on your anecdotes and gems very soon 

[dextrous]

Dex, are you agreeing on Blwe's behalf or do you share this view as well?

there is nothing to agree here. I was just giving some possible scenarios for some wholesome cricket-based entertainment that BCCI is going to unleash on us. infact we are already tightenning our belts before being taken for a jolly ride.

btw...kic are u a channel partner or something of BCCI?.......................... the amount of energy, emotion and resources that you have expended will make BCCI blush in embarassment.

The question should be for you Gangulians. Are you endorsement partners for SG. The amount of energy spent by the Gangulians in not only fighting for him BUT in trying to decipher what he was thinking when he talked to the Selectors etc is amazing.

We do that as fans of various players.............most ppl do. You too do the same thing............so what...............it is better than supporting an organisation run by some old hags........corrupted politicians and some assorted businessmen.
 

as opposed to supporting politician players who have becomee old hags and are into business for themselves? Ok

i guess you really didn't read kban's farewell post to you on the dg

[cricinfo]

Dex, are you agreeing on Blwe's behalf or do you share this view as well?

there is nothing to agree here. I was just giving some possible scenarios for some wholesome cricket-based entertainment that BCCI is going to unleash on us. infact we are already tightenning our belts before being taken for a jolly ride.

btw...kic are u a channel partner or something of BCCI?.......................... the amount of energy, emotion and resources that you have expended will make BCCI blush in embarassment.

The question should be for you Gangulians. Are you endorsement partners for SG. The amount of energy spent by the Gangulians in not only fighting for him BUT in trying to decipher what he was thinking when he talked to the Selectors etc is amazing.

We do that as fans of various players.............most ppl do. You too do the same thing............so what...............it is better than supporting an organisation run by some old hags........corrupted politicians and some assorted businessmen.
 

as opposed to supporting politician players who have becomee old hags and are into business for themselves? Ok

i guess you really didn't read kban's farewell post to you on the dg

what KBAN left forum ?

[LosingNow]

Dex, are you agreeing on Blwe's behalf or do you share this view as well?

there is nothing to agree here. I was just giving some possible scenarios for some wholesome cricket-based entertainment that BCCI is going to unleash on us. infact we are already tightenning our belts before being taken for a jolly ride.

btw...kic are u a channel partner or something of BCCI?.......................... the amount of energy, emotion and resources that you have expended will make BCCI blush in embarassment.

The question should be for you Gangulians. Are you endorsement partners for SG. The amount of energy spent by the Gangulians in not only fighting for him BUT in trying to decipher what he was thinking when he talked to the Selectors etc is amazing.

We do that as fans of various players.............most ppl do. You too do the same thing............so what...............it is better than supporting an organisation run by some old hags........corrupted politicians and some assorted businessmen.
 

as opposed to supporting politician players who have becomee old hags and are into business for themselves? Ok

i guess you really didn't read kban's farewell post to you on the dg

what KBAN left forum ?

I think Dex is referring to farewell to Kban-CP interactions on the DG

[dextrous]

Dex, are you agreeing on Blwe's behalf or do you share this view as well?

there is nothing to agree here. I was just giving some possible scenarios for some wholesome cricket-based entertainment that BCCI is going to unleash on us. infact we are already tightenning our belts before being taken for a jolly ride.

btw...kic are u a channel partner or something of BCCI?.......................... the amount of energy, emotion and resources that you have expended will make BCCI blush in embarassment.

The question should be for you Gangulians. Are you endorsement partners for SG. The amount of energy spent by the Gangulians in not only fighting for him BUT in trying to decipher what he was thinking when he talked to the Selectors etc is amazing.

We do that as fans of various players.............most ppl do. You too do the same thing............so what...............it is better than supporting an organisation run by some old hags........corrupted politicians and some assorted businessmen.
 

as opposed to supporting politician players who have becomee old hags and are into business for themselves? Ok

i guess you really didn't read kban's farewell post to you on the dg

what KBAN left forum ?

I think Dex is referring to farewell to Kban-CP interactions on the DG

   yes he'd specifically mentioned cp's (choice words i can't reproduce) which allows him to keep saying "politician" for 2+ years...

[Cover Point]

Dex, are you agreeing on Blwe's behalf or do you share this view as well?

there is nothing to agree here. I was just giving some possible scenarios for some wholesome cricket-based entertainment that BCCI is going to unleash on us. infact we are already tightenning our belts before being taken for a jolly ride.

btw...kic are u a channel partner or something of BCCI?.......................... the amount of energy, emotion and resources that you have expended will make BCCI blush in embarassment.

The question should be for you Gangulians. Are you endorsement partners for SG. The amount of energy spent by the Gangulians in not only fighting for him BUT in trying to decipher what he was thinking when he talked to the Selectors etc is amazing.

We do that as fans of various players.............most ppl do. You too do the same thing............so what...............it is better than supporting an organisation run by some old hags........corrupted politicians and some assorted businessmen.
 

as opposed to supporting politician players who have becomee old hags and are into business for themselves? Ok

i guess you really didn't read kban's farewell post to you on the dg

what KBAN left forum ?

nah .. he is just referring to his own prayers.... when he prays on a daily basis that I allow Dexy's pettiness and go away and stop pointing out his hypocrisy. Unfortunately his old sins come in the way and he never gets his prayers answered!