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[Cover Point]

Which franchise will sign the Monkey and the captain Ponkey and prove themselves to be the biggest desh drohi of all. Looks like Delhi waale, Madrasi and Banglorites have the lead in the Desh Drohi stakes but dont undersell Shah Rukh Khan and his city team. They will strike back!! Lets see who will be the biggest desh drohi of them all.

Only Aussie I want in my team is GodChrist. Baaki sab chor hain. Giving Symonds a contract is the worst thing to do. He needs to be shown some humility!!!


http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ipl/content/current/story/336559.html

Indian Premier League

Symonds and Ponting high on franchise wishlist
Ajay S Shankar

February 13, 2008

 
 
Ricky Ponting and Andrew Symonds are among the must-have players of at least three IPL franchises © Getty Images
 
 Ricky Ponting, the Australia captain, and Andrew Symonds, the allrounder, are on the list of top five must-have players of at least three franchises in the Indian Premier League, Cricinfo has learned, belying fears in the fallout of the Sydney Test that public sentiment would jeopardise their involvement in the big-money tournament.

The IPL commissioner, Lalit Modi, had voiced those fears, saying there would "definitely be some casualties" of the controversy.

However, one week before the players' auction, representatives of the IPL's Bangalore, Chennai and Delhi franchises - who say "public memory is short" and "everybody has moved on" from Sydney - are working their budgets around Ponting and Symonds and the other top draw, Adam Gilchrist. Each of the eight IPL teams can recruit up to eight overseas international players and field four of them in the playing XI.

"Any Australian player would figure high on our list, just for the sheer professionalism and commitment they bring to the field," says the former India international VB Chandrasekhar, now a key operations man in the Chennai franchise, owned by India Cements. "I don't think there will be any negative impact here on the Sydney incident."

"There is a different kind of passion involved here. We are looking at inter-city rivalries here, not between countries. In fact, I think having Ponting and Symonds play here will only alleviate whatever tension there might have been following the Sydney incident."

The former India fast bowler, T A Sekar, who is the vice-president of sports administration for the Delhi team, says he would be "very keen" on Symonds as he is looking out for multi-skilled players. "More than Ponting, I would go for Gilchrist and Symonds because they fit the bill. In this format, our eyes will be on multi-skilled players."

Charu Sharma, CEO-designate of the Bangalore franchise, believes public memory is short. "Once Symonds and Ponting are part of your team, and they walk out in the field, you will hear their names chanted from the stands. The backlash in India and Australia was to a particular incident, in a particular match. Everybody has moved on."

Sharma, a television commentator, explained why Symonds and Ponting were so sought after. "Cricket-wise, Symonds brings an enormous batting ability in a Twenty20 situation, gives you a bowling option and a fantastic fielding option. In Twenty20 you need a player who can change the game in two or three overs. Symonds clearly has that ability."

Ponting, he said, might take an over or two to get going. "But he can then hit the ball as hard as anybody else. He's got great eye, great feet, brings a lot of experience, and a sound cricketing background with him."

There is still some doubt over the participation of current Australian players in the inaugural IPL, given that the team is scheduled to tour Pakistan around the time the IPL begins. However, Sharma said the IPL had informed franchise owners that the status of these Australian players would be confirmed before the auction, on February 20.

Ajay Shankar is a deputy editor with Cricinfo in Bangalore

[Blwe_torch]

Public memory may be shorter in those parts of India..............I don't think Kolkata, Mohali and Mumbai will touch Symonds with a barge pole.

[Cover Point]

Public memory may be shorter in those parts of India..............I don't think Kolkata, Mohali and Mumbai will touch Symonds with a barge pole.

why is Mohali different than Delhi?

[Blwe_torch]

Public memory may be shorter in those parts of India..............I don't think Kolkata, Mohali and Mumbai will touch Symonds with a barge pole.

why is Mohali different than Delhi?

Mohali is slightly on the northern side.........a bit chillier.............and it doesn't feature in the write-up that you have reproduced above.

[Cover Point]

Public memory may be shorter in those parts of India..............I don't think Kolkata, Mohali and Mumbai will touch Symonds with a barge pole.

why is Mohali different than Delhi?

Mohali is slightly on the northern side.........a bit chillier.............and it doesn't feature in the write-up that you have reproduced above.

ok but what about Mohali makes its people different than Delhi.

For your information the demographics of both cities (Assuming Chandigarh) are rather similar. Delhi does have a few more non Punjabis but it is still dominated by punjabis.

So what makes public memory shorter in Delhi as compared to Mohali?

And not being in the writeup, did we see a denial from Mohali or Kolkatta that they wont take Symonds OR could it be that the writer just got quotes from these three peoplee?

[Blwe_torch]

Public memory may be shorter in those parts of India..............I don't think Kolkata, Mohali and Mumbai will touch Symonds with a barge pole.

why is Mohali different than Delhi?

Mohali is slightly on the northern side.........a bit chillier.............and it doesn't feature in the write-up that you have reproduced above.

ok but what about Mohali makes its people different than Delhi.

For your information the demographics of both cities (Assuming Chandigarh) are rather similar. Delhi does have a few more non Punjabis but it is still dominated by punjabis.

So what makes public memory shorter in Delhi as compared to Mohali?

And not being in the writeup, did we see a denial from Mohali or Kolkatta that they wont take Symonds OR could it be that the writer just got quotes from these three peoplee?

Symonds do not feature in SG's wish-list..............check out the other thread. And regarding Mohali......................I am sure Symonds himself won't fancy playing there, after his rub in with Bhajji. Same with Mumbai............a city which gave Symonds his new name( made it more famous rather).
Demographically,  Mohali is different from Delhi ( majority Punjabees notwithstanding)

[Vick]

Public memory may be shorter in those parts of India..............I don't think Kolkata, Mohali and Mumbai will touch Symonds with a barge pole.

why is Mohali different than Delhi?

Mohali is slightly on the northern side.........a bit chillier.............and it doesn't feature in the write-up that you have reproduced above.

ok but what about Mohali makes its people different than Delhi.

For your information the demographics of both cities (Assuming Chandigarh) are rather similar. Delhi does have a few more non Punjabis but it is still dominated by punjabis.

So what makes public memory shorter in Delhi as compared to Mohali?

And not being in the writeup, did we see a denial from Mohali or Kolkatta that they wont take Symonds OR could it be that the writer just got quotes from these three peoplee?

Sure if you live in west Delhi. Delhi's demographics have changed a lot in last 10-15 years. Punjabis definately dont make up the majority now.  

[Cover Point]

Public memory may be shorter in those parts of India..............I don't think Kolkata, Mohali and Mumbai will touch Symonds with a barge pole.

why is Mohali different than Delhi?

Mohali is slightly on the northern side.........a bit chillier.............and it doesn't feature in the write-up that you have reproduced above.

ok but what about Mohali makes its people different than Delhi.

For your information the demographics of both cities (Assuming Chandigarh) are rather similar. Delhi does have a few more non Punjabis but it is still dominated by punjabis.

So what makes public memory shorter in Delhi as compared to Mohali?

And not being in the writeup, did we see a denial from Mohali or Kolkatta that they wont take Symonds OR could it be that the writer just got quotes from these three peoplee?

Sure if you live in west Delhi. Delhi's demographics have changed a lot in last 10-15 years. Punjabis definately dont make up the majority now.  

Really? I would think quite the opposite. Rajouri Garden, Patel Nagar etc are Punjabi dominated. Have been ... always will be

[Blwe_torch]

Public memory may be shorter in those parts of India..............I don't think Kolkata, Mohali and Mumbai will touch Symonds with a barge pole.

why is Mohali different than Delhi?

Mohali is slightly on the northern side.........a bit chillier.............and it doesn't feature in the write-up that you have reproduced above.

ok but what about Mohali makes its people different than Delhi.

For your information the demographics of both cities (Assuming Chandigarh) are rather similar. Delhi does have a few more non Punjabis but it is still dominated by punjabis.

So what makes public memory shorter in Delhi as compared to Mohali?

And not being in the writeup, did we see a denial from Mohali or Kolkatta that they wont take Symonds OR could it be that the writer just got quotes from these three peoplee?

Sure if you live in west Delhi. Delhi's demographics have changed a lot in last 10-15 years. Punjabis definately dont make up the majority now.  

Really? I would think quite the opposite. Rajouri Garden, Patel Nagar etc are Punjabi dominated. Have been ... always will be

You know what.............these Punjabis mostly originate from West Punjab............................I appreciate that..................but I always find Delhi Punjabis rather shallow and crass, unfortunately....................I have a whole lot of friends there though.
May be the big-city culture..............and the big roads/ fly-overs have made them cold.

[cricinfo]

Imagine Monkey and bhajji playing for same team... , specially when they bat together . It will be fun when Bhajji will try to get monkey runout

[LosingNow]

Charu Sharma - CEO WTF, I guess appearances are deceptive. He sounds like a clown on TV.

Mandira ko kya job milega?
--
BTW, CP .. based on my limited interactions with Delhi-ites.. I tend to agree with BLWE, I find Punjabis in Delhi to be a different type (unfortunately, more of an unpleasant type ) than the Punjabis in Punjab. Of course, I am generalizing .. and specific individuals may be different.  There is a definite unpleasant chaloo-ness, show-off ness, shallow-ness exhibited by the Delhi Punjabi that is not there in the Punjabi Punjabi

[cricinfo]

Charu Sharma - CEO WTF, I guess appearances are deceptive. He sounds like a clown on TV.

Mandira ko kya job milega?
--
BTW, CP .. based on my limited interactions with Delhi-ites.. I tend to agree with BLWE, I find Punjabis in Delhi to be a different type (unfortunately, more of an unpleasant type ) than the Punjabis in Punjab. Of course, I am generalizing .. and specific individuals may be different.  There is a definite unpleasant chaloo-ness, show-off ness, shallow-ness exhibited by the Delhi Punjabi that is not there in the Punjabi Punjabi

i will not even blink once to say punjabis in Delhi are very rude in general.This is from my experience with general public in Delhi/Noida

[Cover Point]

Charu Sharma - CEO WTF, I guess appearances are deceptive. He sounds like a clown on TV.

Mandira ko kya job milega?
--
BTW, CP .. based on my limited interactions with Delhi-ites.. I tend to agree with BLWE, I find Punjabis in Delhi to be a different type (unfortunately, more of an unpleasant type ) than the Punjabis in Punjab. Of course, I am generalizing .. and specific individuals may be different.  There is a definite unpleasant chaloo-ness, show-off ness, shallow-ness exhibited by the Delhi Punjabi that is not there in the Punjabi Punjabi

And it is based on limited interaction right?

See,  no one denies that Punjabis in general are a lot ruder, show-offs etc etc . But I find it strange that people can differentiate between Punjabis from Delhi and from Punjab.

I have lived in Ambala ... am married to a girl from Chandigarh and ofcourse have relatives in punjab and Haryana ... and punjabis are punjabis. On top of being better looking than anyone else (had to get that in) punjabis from anywhere will be the same. Ok maybe difference in Delhi is that the % of punjabis in Business or small business is greater (a big part of Delhi population .. was actually migrants from the partition who opened up small businesses which have done extremely well).

[LosingNow]

Charu Sharma - CEO WTF, I guess appearances are deceptive. He sounds like a clown on TV.

Mandira ko kya job milega?
--
BTW, CP .. based on my limited interactions with Delhi-ites.. I tend to agree with BLWE, I find Punjabis in Delhi to be a different type (unfortunately, more of an unpleasant type ) than the Punjabis in Punjab. Of course, I am generalizing .. and specific individuals may be different.  There is a definite unpleasant chaloo-ness, show-off ness, shallow-ness exhibited by the Delhi Punjabi that is not there in the Punjabi Punjabi

And it is based on limited interaction right?

Yes, of course. I only deal with Marwaris on a day-to-day basis

See,  no one denies that Punjabis in general are a lot ruder, show-offs etc etc . But I find it strange that people can differentiate between Punjabis from Delhi and from Punjab.

I have lived in Ambala ... am married to a girl from Chandigarh and ofcourse have relatives in punjab and Haryana ... and punjabis are punjabis. On top of being better looking than anyone else (had to get that in) punjabis from anywhere will be the same. Ok maybe difference in Delhi is that the % of punjabis in Business or small business is greater (a big part of Delhi population .. was actually migrants from the partition who opened up small businesses which have done extremely well).

Kabhi kabhi.. kuch cheeze jo andar rahne walo ko nahin dikhti, bahar walo ko bahut clearly dikh jati hai !

[dlee1]

coming back to the main topic.i dont see anything wrong if any specific franchise picks up symmonds/ponting!personally dont like them as such but whats wrong if they were to play lets say in bombay/or calcutta team.it has nothing to do with being unpatriotic..

[cricinfo]

Charu Sharma - CEO WTF, I guess appearances are deceptive. He sounds like a clown on TV.

Mandira ko kya job milega?
--
BTW, CP .. based on my limited interactions with Delhi-ites.. I tend to agree with BLWE, I find Punjabis in Delhi to be a different type (unfortunately, more of an unpleasant type ) than the Punjabis in Punjab. Of course, I am generalizing .. and specific individuals may be different.  There is a definite unpleasant chaloo-ness, show-off ness, shallow-ness exhibited by the Delhi Punjabi that is not there in the Punjabi Punjabi

i can vouch for the fact that bengalis from west bengal can be easily distinguished from bengalis from other parts of India...

And it is based on limited interaction right?

See,  no one denies that Punjabis in general are a lot ruder, show-offs etc etc . But I find it strange that people can differentiate between Punjabis from Delhi and from Punjab.

I have lived in Ambala ... am married to a girl from Chandigarh and ofcourse have relatives in punjab and Haryana ... and punjabis are punjabis. On top of being better looking than anyone else (had to get that in) punjabis from anywhere will be the same. Ok maybe difference in Delhi is that the % of punjabis in Business or small business is greater (a big part of Delhi population .. was actually migrants from the partition who opened up small businesses which have done extremely well).

[Cover Point]

i can vouch for the fact that bengalis from west bengal can be easily distinguished from bengalis from other parts of India...

So are you saying that Bengalis from other parts of India love Ganguly less?

[cricinfo]

i can vouch for the fact that bengalis from west bengal can be easily distinguished from bengalis from other parts of India...

So are you saying that Bengalis from other parts of India love Ganguly less?

love cant not be quantified.Way you express your love can be different based on your cultural/social values.What you call love in Kolkata varies widely from what they call love in Denmark 

I always felt bengali girls from outside bengal are better  to get along with

[LosingNow]

i can vouch for the fact that bengalis from west bengal can be easily distinguished from bengalis from other parts of India...

So are you saying that Bengalis from other parts of India love Ganguly less?

love cant not be quantified.Way you express your love can be different based on your cultural/social values.What you call love in Kolkata varies widely from what they call love in Denmark 

I always felt bengali girls from outside bengal are better  to get along with

Hmm.. fascinating!

More details, please

[cricinfo]

i can vouch for the fact that bengalis from west bengal can be easily distinguished from bengalis from other parts of India...

So are you saying that Bengalis from other parts of India love Ganguly less?

love cant not be quantified.Way you express your love can be different based on your cultural/social values.What you call love in Kolkata varies widely from what they call love in Denmark 

I always felt bengali girls from outside bengal are better  to get along with

Hmm.. fascinating!

More details, please

he he ....send me some runs , i will give you the details

[Cover Point]

i can vouch for the fact that bengalis from west bengal can be easily distinguished from bengalis from other parts of India...

So are you saying that Bengalis from other parts of India love Ganguly less?

love cant not be quantified.Way you express your love can be different based on your cultural/social values.What you call love in Kolkata varies widely from what they call love in Denmark 

I always felt bengali girls from outside bengal are better  to get along with

Hmm.. fascinating!

More details, please

he he ....send me some runs , i will give you the details

That reminds me.... let me try ...

Successfully stole 1164 from losingnow! It's their fault they don't have their money in the bank!

Mod ko loot liya ha ha ha (Took two attempts though)

[teamindia]

Mandira ko kya job milega?

Cheer Leader!!! And yes, the length of the skirt will be inversely proportional to the bid amount.

[Cover Point]

Mandira ko kya job milega?

Cheer Leader!!! And yes, the length of the skirt will be inversely proportional to the bid amount.

she will be allowed to wear a skirt?

[teamindia]

Mandira ko kya job milega?

Cheer Leader!!! And yes, the length of the skirt will be inversely proportional to the bid amount.

she will be allowed to wear a skirt?

OK, the depth of blouse neck will be directly proportional to the bid amount. Now don't tell me, she will not be allowed to wear blouse.

[cricinfo]

Mandira ko kya job milega?

Cheer Leader!!! And yes, the length of the skirt will be inversely proportional to the bid amount.

she will be allowed to wear a skirt?

OK, the depth of blouse neck will be directly proportional to the bid amount. Now don't tell me, she will not be allowed to wear blouse.

guys ...I AM IN OFFICE....STOP IT!!!!!! MY IMAGINATION IS RUNNING WILD

[LosingNow]

i can vouch for the fact that bengalis from west bengal can be easily distinguished from bengalis from other parts of India...

So are you saying that Bengalis from other parts of India love Ganguly less?

love cant not be quantified.Way you express your love can be different based on your cultural/social values.What you call love in Kolkata varies widely from what they call love in Denmark 

I always felt bengali girls from outside bengal are better  to get along with

Hmm.. fascinating!

More details, please

he he ....send me some runs , i will give you the details

Sent.. chalo.. ab sunao!

[cricinfo]

i can vouch for the fact that bengalis from west bengal can be easily distinguished from bengalis from other parts of India...

So are you saying that Bengalis from other parts of India love Ganguly less?

love cant not be quantified.Way you express your love can be different based on your cultural/social values.What you call love in Kolkata varies widely from what they call love in Denmark 

I always felt bengali girls from outside bengal are better  to get along with

Hmm.. fascinating!

More details, please

he he ....send me some runs , i will give you the details

Sent.. chalo.. ab sunao!

maan you are really desparate!!!!
Well nothing against bengali girls...but my close encounters over the years with bengali girls suggest that a typical kolkata city girl can be very manipulative and snobbish in nature.And they have a attitude to control their better half.Bengali girls born/brought up in north india are not like that.

........Maybe because of my experience i eventually ended up marrying a Sharma from UP  .

[LosingNow]

i can vouch for the fact that bengalis from west bengal can be easily distinguished from bengalis from other parts of India...

So are you saying that Bengalis from other parts of India love Ganguly less?

love cant not be quantified.Way you express your love can be different based on your cultural/social values.What you call love in Kolkata varies widely from what they call love in Denmark 

I always felt bengali girls from outside bengal are better  to get along with

Hmm.. fascinating!

More details, please

he he ....send me some runs , i will give you the details

Sent.. chalo.. ab sunao!

maan you are really desparate!!!!

Ha ha.. the cheap bribe did the trick!!

Well nothing against bengali girls...but my close encounters over the years with bengali girls suggest that a typical kolkata city girl can be very manipulative and snobbish in nature.And they have a attitude to control their better half. Bengali girls born/brought up in north india are not like that.

Hmm.. any agreements/disagreements/thoughts kban, inoc, colonel, blwe, ...

BTW, what is wrong with being controlled

........Maybe because of my experience i eventually ended up marrying a Sharma from UP  .

I think Kic married a Sharma too!
--
GO Sharmas 

[Cover Point]

i can vouch for the fact that bengalis from west bengal can be easily distinguished from bengalis from other parts of India...

So are you saying that Bengalis from other parts of India love Ganguly less?

love cant not be quantified.Way you express your love can be different based on your cultural/social values.What you call love in Kolkata varies widely from what they call love in Denmark 

I always felt bengali girls from outside bengal are better  to get along with

Hmm.. fascinating!

More details, please

he he ....send me some runs , i will give you the details

Sent.. chalo.. ab sunao!

maan you are really desparate!!!!
Well nothing against bengali girls...but my close encounters over the years with bengali girls suggest that a typical kolkata city girl can be very manipulative and snobbish in nature.And they have a attitude to control their better half.Bengali girls born/brought up in north india are not like that.

........Maybe because of my experience i eventually ended up marrying a Sharma from UP  .

Sharam Karo

[Blwe_torch]

i can vouch for the fact that bengalis from west bengal can be easily distinguished from bengalis from other parts of India...

So are you saying that Bengalis from other parts of India love Ganguly less?

love cant not be quantified.Way you express your love can be different based on your cultural/social values.What you call love in Kolkata varies widely from what they call love in Denmark 

I always felt bengali girls from outside bengal are better  to get along with

Hmm.. fascinating!

More details, please

he he ....send me some runs , i will give you the details

Sent.. chalo.. ab sunao!

maan you are really desparate!!!!

Ha ha.. the cheap bribe did the trick!!

Well nothing against bengali girls...but my close encounters over the years with bengali girls suggest that a typical kolkata city girl can be very manipulative and snobbish in nature.And they have a attitude to control their better half. Bengali girls born/brought up in north india are not like that.

Hmm.. any agreements/disagreements/thoughts kban, inoc, colonel, blwe, ...

BTW, what is wrong with being controlled

........Maybe because of my experience i eventually ended up marrying a Sharma from UP  .

I think Kic married a Sharma too!
--
GO Sharmas 

I have never realized whatever was happening around me............I was always under control............woh chahe Bengali ho ya non-bengali.

Regarding Punjabis from mainland- Punjab..............I agree with WN.....................they are more humble and cultured than their counter-parts in Delhi. Delhi mein aisa hai ke.....kaam karta hai do take ka............lekin attitude and noise level itna, as if they have just purchased the whole world......their neighbours included. ..........................my mother originates from Lahore although she was born in Patiala, and I am aware of the Punjabi culture that Lahore used to typify. I can say that after partition, those who migrated to Delhi and settled there had to face some local challenge of adjustments.........a factor which ultimately affected their outward attitude.

Regarding Cricinfo's comments...............I tend to agree with a part of it. You can make out the difference between Bengali girls living in West Bengal, or Kolkata.............and those who are born and brought up outside. But whether the difference is in their urge to control, that I am not sure. I have come across a few Bengali girls in France and England...............and I could never make out that they are originally Bengali( not their fault though)
btw...I am married to a bengali girl from Kolkata.........who has happily adjusted to my semi-Punjabi ways, my food habits, etc.

[keep-it-cool]

........Maybe because of my experience i eventually ended up marrying a Sharma from UP  .

I think Kic married a Sharma too!
--
GO Sharmas 

Well, my Sharma is from Jammu.

And given that we live in Mumbai, I hope the monkey sena guys know the difference between UP and Jammu .. although they may find it a bit difficult to understand any nuances beyond north indians!

jai maharashtra, mee mumbaikar

[keep-it-cool]

Mumbai ban jaaye desh drohi .. I would love to have Ponting and Symonds playing alongside SRT and RS .. what an awesome batting line up! Gilly bhi mil jaaye to sone pe suhaaga

[Blwe_torch]

Charu Sharma - CEO WTF, I guess appearances are deceptive. He sounds like a clown on TV.

Mandira ko kya job milega?
--
BTW, CP .. based on my limited interactions with Delhi-ites.. I tend to agree with BLWE, I find Punjabis in Delhi to be a different type (unfortunately, more of an unpleasant type ) than the Punjabis in Punjab. Of course, I am generalizing .. and specific individuals may be different.  There is a definite unpleasant chaloo-ness, show-off ness, shallow-ness exhibited by the Delhi Punjabi that is not there in the Punjabi Punjabi

And it is based on limited interaction right?

See,  no one denies that Punjabis in general are a lot ruder, show-offs etc etc . But I find it strange that people can differentiate between Punjabis from Delhi and from Punjab.

I have lived in Ambala ... am married to a girl from Chandigarh and ofcourse have relatives in punjab and Haryana ... and punjabis are punjabis. On top of being better looking than anyone else (had to get that in) punjabis from anywhere will be the same. Ok maybe difference in Delhi is that the % of punjabis in Business or small business is greater (a big part of Delhi population .. was actually migrants from the partition who opened up small businesses which have done extremely well).

What has business doing extremely well got to do with being rude/ show-off/ or being generally cold to others?!
There are so many others who have done well in business, all across the world.......across many communities..........that doesn't necessarily make them brash. Not that................I think it is the growing size of the city itself that makes a difference. Imagine, that you have to drive out of your house into the service road.........and then turn left on the main road, when actually you had to go the right.................travel quite a distance towards left and then take an about-turn underneath a busy fly-over and drive all the way back towards your destination. These kind of daily harangues tend to make you rather 'switched off' towards your immediate human world.

As you have mentioned in one of your posts...I am not a 'racist'.......................I am just an 'outsider' who observes and studies the differences. My childhood was spent in Kolkata, where my thakurma and dadu( paternal grandparents) regaled me with stories about how 'wealthy' we were before partition. Infact my father's side hails from Barisal in current Bangladesh. During those days, the football matches between East Bengal and Mohun Bagan used to heighten the 'us' vs 'them' issue..........albeit in a sporty manner......................................Again, whenever I visited my nana's house in Patiala, it was the same story................................about how 'wealthy' we were in Lahore.............and that we also had properties in Sargoda, which we had to forfeit....................and that Patiala is no match to Lahore in shaan.......................the feeling of being an outsider remains. But all these have made me more observant abt the deviations in the behaviour pattern of ppl seperated by cities/ countries but having the same roots.
This can also be applied to Tamils...................those from Tamil Nadu and those hailing from Sri Lanka.
Needless to add that I have always enjoyed the life as an outsider...........be it in Bengal or Punjab or even now in Maharashtra. Anyway, this has nothing to do with the topic on hand.

[Blwe_torch]

Mumbai ban jaaye desh drohi .. I would love to have Ponting and Symonds playing alongside SRT and RS .. what an awesome batting line up! Gilly bhi mil jaaye to sone pe suhaaga

I think, this is a wrong exercise. It will be best for the BCCI and its' lovers to shift base to Australia............and do the whole tamasha there ( we can always see the circus on TV).....................why disturb the poor players?

[keep-it-cool]

Mumbai ban jaaye desh drohi .. I would love to have Ponting and Symonds playing alongside SRT and RS .. what an awesome batting line up! Gilly bhi mil jaaye to sone pe suhaaga

I think, this is a wrong exercise. It will be best for the BCCI and its' lovers to shift base to Australia............and do the whole tamasha there ( we can always see the circus on TV).....................why disturb the poor players?

 

and let all the benefits of infrastructure upgradation etc go to the aussies as well?

[Blwe_torch]

Mumbai ban jaaye desh drohi .. I would love to have Ponting and Symonds playing alongside SRT and RS .. what an awesome batting line up! Gilly bhi mil jaaye to sone pe suhaaga

I think, this is a wrong exercise. It will be best for the BCCI and its' lovers to shift base to Australia............and do the whole tamasha there ( we can always see the circus on TV).....................why disturb the poor players?

 

and let all the benefits of infrastructure upgradation etc go to the aussies as well?

Is it worth all the trouble?.....................some interested parties will make their money................what will u gain, as a cricket enthusiast? I am just speculating.................may be there will be some gains after all............BCCI will profit, the players will earn more........and we shall get to see some pajama-cricket on TV. '
I mean, BCCI can as well hold these circus somewhere else too.................what limits them to conduct these matches in MCG...Lords.....Newlands etc?
For many of us...it is all the same ...if the tamasha happens in Eden Gardens or Newlands..............................but atleast we can export the traffic snarls, etc.

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Mumbai ban jaaye desh drohi .. I would love to have Ponting and Symonds playing alongside SRT and RS .. what an awesome batting line up! Gilly bhi mil jaaye to sone pe suhaaga

I think, this is a wrong exercise. It will be best for the BCCI and its' lovers to shift base to Australia............and do the whole tamasha there ( we can always see the circus on TV).....................why disturb the poor players?

 

and let all the benefits of infrastructure upgradation etc go to the aussies as well?

Is it worth all the trouble?.....................some interested parties will make their money................what will u gain, as a cricket enthusiast? I am just speculating.................may be there will be some gains after all............BCCI will profit, the players will earn more........and we shall get to see some pajama-cricket on TV. '
I mean, BCCI can as well hold these circus somewhere else too.................what limits them to conduct these matches in MCG...Lords.....Newlands etc?
For many of us...it is all the same ...if the tamasha happens in Eden Gardens or Newlands..............................but atleast we can export the traffic snarls, etc.

typical Blwe. Abe India main game honge to India ke players ko khelne ko milega. If any stadium improvemnt happens it will happen in India. Lahore ki Dairawaali main samjhayen kya?

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Public memory may be shorter in those parts of India..............I don't think Kolkata, Mohali and Mumbai will touch Symonds with a barge pole.

why is Mohali different than Delhi?

Mohali is slightly on the northern side.........a bit chillier.............and it doesn't feature in the write-up that you have reproduced above.

ok but what about Mohali makes its people different than Delhi.

For your information the demographics of both cities (Assuming Chandigarh) are rather similar. Delhi does have a few more non Punjabis but it is still dominated by punjabis.

So what makes public memory shorter in Delhi as compared to Mohali?

And not being in the writeup, did we see a denial from Mohali or Kolkatta that they wont take Symonds OR could it be that the writer just got quotes from these three peoplee?

Sure if you live in west Delhi. Delhi's demographics have changed a lot in last 10-15 years. Punjabis definately dont make up the majority now.  

Really? I would think quite the opposite. Rajouri Garden, Patel Nagar etc are Punjabi dominated. Have been ... always will be

after 3 years in delhi the only thing i attribute the dilli-behaviour is the refugee mentality...when i dealt with punjabis from punjab or old delhi they were far less pushy and far more well-mannered than guys who were from delhi, and then speaking to a lot of them and spending huge times with them i could only put it down to refugee mentality

maybe i am wrong but couldn't think of amy other reason except maybe an overdose of yamuna water 

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Mumbai ban jaaye desh drohi .. I would love to have Ponting and Symonds playing alongside SRT and RS .. what an awesome batting line up! Gilly bhi mil jaaye to sone pe suhaaga

I think, this is a wrong exercise. It will be best for the BCCI and its' lovers to shift base to Australia............and do the whole tamasha there ( we can always see the circus on TV).....................why disturb the poor players?

 

and let all the benefits of infrastructure upgradation etc go to the aussies as well?

Is it worth all the trouble?.....................some interested parties will make their money................what will u gain, as a cricket enthusiast? I am just speculating.................may be there will be some gains after all............BCCI will profit, the players will earn more........and we shall get to see some pajama-cricket on TV. '
I mean, BCCI can as well hold these circus somewhere else too.................what limits them to conduct these matches in MCG...Lords.....Newlands etc?
For many of us...it is all the same ...if the tamasha happens in Eden Gardens or Newlands..............................but atleast we can export the traffic snarls, etc.

typical Blwe. Abe India main game honge to India ke players ko khelne ko milega. If any stadium improvemnt happens it will happen in India. Lahore ki Dairawaali main samjhayen kya?

I am wondering...why only in India!...................they can as well play somewhere else...why only in my neighbourhood?!...Do we have any less celebrations now? Someone or the other is always celebrating............blaring mikes.............traffic jamming processions...............over-built stadiums.........we have them all..................and at the end..we have the effigy burning tamashas as well. I am wondering, why can't we stage all these in Newlands/ Lords/ MCG, etc...and screw up those places......why only here?

All this surfeit of pajama cricket will make the game into another saas-bahu phenomenon. Initially, we loved those serials....Humlog...Nukkad....etc..................and nowadays I don't know where to escape from these saas-bahu serials.
I hope, this doesn't happen with our fav game....that is cricket.

I am wondering whether these franchisees will 'unbuild' some  of our stadiums like Eden Gardens. Ideally, I would like only 50000 seats in that stadium. I have been part of the fantastic spectacle of over 1 lakh spectators in Eden Gardens, many times.....................believe me, it is terrible! It is one of the worst ways of enjoying a cricket match. If the franchisees are banking on such stuff then God forbid.........................I shall keep myself out of this.

Again, I hate pajama cricket. Packer's time was different time...we can't recreate those. And if an Andrew Symonds playing for Kolkata( my hometown) hoicks Anil Kumble of Bangalore for a sixer...I am not going to enjoy that, whatever.

In my childhood,  I had the oppurtunity of enjoying football matches between East Bengal vs Mohun Bagan...........local players( Indian players) playing. It mattered whoever won. Nowadays, 3 Ghanaians, 2 Kenyans, a handful of Brazialians/ Argentines represent these teams....................the sentiments are all gone.......................and I don't care who wins or loses.

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Mumbai ban jaaye desh drohi .. I would love to have Ponting and Symonds playing alongside SRT and RS .. what an awesome batting line up! Gilly bhi mil jaaye to sone pe suhaaga

I think, this is a wrong exercise. It will be best for the BCCI and its' lovers to shift base to Australia............and do the whole tamasha there ( we can always see the circus on TV).....................why disturb the poor players?

 

and let all the benefits of infrastructure upgradation etc go to the aussies as well?

Is it worth all the trouble?.....................some interested parties will make their money................what will u gain, as a cricket enthusiast? I am just speculating.................may be there will be some gains after all............BCCI will profit, the players will earn more........and we shall get to see some pajama-cricket on TV. '
I mean, BCCI can as well hold these circus somewhere else too.................what limits them to conduct these matches in MCG...Lords.....Newlands etc?
For many of us...it is all the same ...if the tamasha happens in Eden Gardens or Newlands..............................but atleast we can export the traffic snarls, etc.

typical Blwe. Abe India main game honge to India ke players ko khelne ko milega. If any stadium improvemnt happens it will happen in India. Lahore ki Dairawaali main samjhayen kya?

I am wondering...why only in India!...................they can as well play somewhere else...why only in my neighbourhood?!...Do we have any less celebrations now? Someone or the other is always celebrating............blaring mikes.............traffic jamming processions...............over-built stadiums.........we have them all..................and at the end..we have the effigy burning tamashas as well. I am wondering, why can't we stage all these in Newlands/ Lords/ MCG, etc...and screw up those places......why only here?
All this surfeit of pajama cricket will make the game into another saas-bahu phenomenon. Initially, we loved those serials....Humlog...Nukkad....etc..................and nowadays I don't know where to escape from these saas-bahu serials.
I hope, this doesn't happen with our fav game....that is cricket.
I am wondering whether these franchisees will 'unbuild' some  of our stadiums like Eden Gardens. Ideally, I would like only 50000 sits in that stadium. I have been part of the fantastic spectacle of over 1 lakh spectators in

if EPL,UEFA,Euro Cup and all kind of leagues can succeed based on purely domestic market why cant that happen to cricket. I believe in China model...when you think...think it big