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India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« on: February 08, 2008, 12:28:27 PM »
A victory here for India would put all the pressure on Sri Lanka.

I expect the same team .. although I would love to see India play five bowlers.
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2008, 12:28:54 PM »
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/007200802081002.htm

Youngster not under pressure in absence of seniors: Sharma

Melbourne (PTI): India's tri-series squad is packed with rookies but promising middle order batsman Rohit Sharma refuses that the absence of seniors is putting extra pressure on the youngsters.

Sharma admitted that a few youngsters in the side, including him, were in the squad at the expense of some well-known seniors such as Rahul Dravid and Sourav Ganguly, but they were taking it as a challenge to make themselves counted.

"I wouldn't say it's pressure. It's more of a challenge for us youngsters to do well," Sharma said.

The Mumbai batsman reminded that the young brigade had proven itself in the Twenty20 World Cup and said the players were trying their best to make their presence felt in the on-going series as well.

"We won the Twenty20 tournament without seniors and we would try to do well in this present series too," he said after the team had nets Friday morning.

Sharma, who made 29 and 0 in the first two games of the tri-series, said more opportunities should be given to youngsters to establish themselves in team.
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2008, 01:22:44 PM »
A victory here for India would put all the pressure on Sri Lanka.

I expect the same team .. although I would love to see India play five bowlers.
I still dont know why are we not playing 5 bowlers . VS or SRT may give the opposition just the cushion to built on.
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2008, 01:28:20 PM »
How we fit in 5 bowlers if Yuvi plays - We axe one of Viru/Rohit/Uthappa ?!? ;)
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2008, 01:54:58 PM »
YS should sit out .
Bahut yaraana ho gaya Dhoni se ....
If the friendship persisits - PK should come instead of RU.


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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2008, 02:53:03 PM »
Crazy kya ? If YS is fit, YS should play. I think RU can be made to sit out and PC be brought in in his place. Note, PC NOT PK.
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2008, 03:02:24 PM »
Actually, I would not mind playing with an extra batter cushion against the Aussies..... 8 batsmen may probably give us the license to always attack - something that is required against the Aussies, otherwise folks like Johnson, Lee and Bracken just tie you down...
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2008, 03:04:49 PM »
yeah, but somehow i have this feeling PC will bat better than RU  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2008, 05:14:12 PM »
But we need wicket taking options also against the aussies in the middle overs
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2008, 05:22:51 PM »
But we need wicket taking options also against the aussies in the middle overs
Looking at the way Aussies tottered SL, I think a couple of Indians will get fun(read run) out while discovering their athelitism.
I am tilting with JFK for this match .(like to take my 5 bowler comment back)  :-[
SL with the batting depth till vaas.. were shattered .

Thus IMO the team would(should)  remain same.


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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2008, 05:30:16 PM »
But we need wicket taking options also against the aussies in the middle overs
Looking at the way Aussies tottered SL, I think a couple of Indians will get fun(read run) out while discovering their athelitism.
I am tilting with JFK for this match .(like to take my 5 bowler comment back)  :-[
SL with the batting depth till vaas.. were shattered .

Thus IMO the team would(should)  remain same.


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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2008, 05:31:39 PM »
Is Yuvi fully fit? There was some talk of him not being 100% fit in the last ODI. Andyways, I would go with 4 bowlers.
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2008, 05:40:05 PM »
But we need wicket taking options also against the aussies in the middle overs
Looking at the way Aussies tottered SL, I think a couple of Indians will get fun(read run) out while discovering their athelitism.
I am tilting with JFK for this match .(like to take my 5 bowler comment back)  :-[
SL with the batting depth till vaas.. were shattered .

Thus IMO the team would(should)  remain same.

Pick your names(everybody seems to have improved all of a sudden)

While watching the last game , though  indian team has been trying to run faster and better, there were at least 2  throws that  could have resulted in wicket(had they hit).
No , I dont mean we should not run the way we had, but it may take few matches to make near perfect calls.

Thus ausses will play with 6 regular bowlers. (Their fielding is atleast one bowlers)



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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2008, 06:05:52 PM »
But we need wicket taking options also against the aussies in the middle overs

Agreed, but looking at our bowling resources available, only SS and IS are wicket taking bowlers. IP is not a wkt-taking bowling in non-swinging conditions. HS is a containing bowler even in tests ;). Neither PK or PC who will come in as 5th bowler are wicket takers IMO.
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2008, 04:20:16 AM »
MCG will most likely be one of those two paced tracks and so if India bat first we must not look to over reach on a first innings target and get out cheaply in the bargain. Keeping wickets in hand and going for  it after 35 overs may be a good idea. 250 seems a reasonable total here batting first.
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2008, 04:53:19 AM »

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/cbs/content/current/story/335600.html
Melbourne conditions will suit Australia

Brydon Coverdale

February 9, 2008

 
 
Ricky Ponting hopes for better luck against India after a wash-out in the opening game in Brisbane © Getty Images
 
 
 

Ricky Ponting says Australia will carry their momentum into Sunday's game against India in Melbourne after his side demolished Sri Lanka by 128 runs at the SCG. India are coming off two wash-outs in Brisbane, whereas Australia enjoyed using a two-paced pitch on Friday.

With further low bounce expected at the MCG, Ponting hopes his men will have the edge. "We've got a full game of cricket and a really good, comprehensive win," Ponting said after the Sydney success, which put them on top of the CB Series table.

"We're probably going to get similar types of conditions in Melbourne as well. The wicket all year down there hasn't offered much pace and bounce either, so what we've got out of this game we can take down there and hopefully adapt to their attack and adapt to their batting line-up."

Nathan Bracken collected five wickets in Sydney, switching from a three-over new-ball spell of swing to useful cutters later in the innings. Ponting was especially pleased with the variety in his bowling arsenal with Brett Lee, Mitchell Johnson and Brad Hogg all chipping in with important breakthroughs.

"We've got a really good mix and balance with our bowling attack in both forms of the game right now," he said. "Our one-day attack the last couple of years has been very solid."

India will be desperate to get a full match in at the MCG following their rain-affected Gabba clashes and Ponting said the visitors had shown glimpses of their potential. "They played pretty well up in Brisbane the other night with the bat," he said of India's effort in posting 267 against Sri Lanka.

"But certainly our bowlers controlled them in Brisbane a few days before that. Hopefully we can just take a bit of momentum out of this game down to Melbourne on Sunday."

Brydon Coverdale is a staff writer at Cricinfo

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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2008, 07:04:40 AM »
If the wicked is a 235-250 runs wicket, all the more reason to play 5 bowlers. I think PK can be handy in Gabba like conditions. Moreover if the idea is to not over attack and keep wickets in hand, it is quite possible that the extra long batting may be under utilised. On such pitches, we would need 6 bats + dhoni + IKP only if we are chasing 280+ - and that would only come about if we haven't executed well on the bowling front.
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2008, 07:11:28 AM »
If the wicked is a 235-250 runs wicket, all the more reason to play 5 bowlers. I think PK can be handy in Gabba like conditions. Moreover if the idea is to not over attack and keep wickets in hand, it is quite possible that the extra long batting may be under utilised. On such pitches, we would need 6 bats + dhoni + IKP only if we are chasing 280+ - and that would only come about if we haven't executed well on the bowling front.

Agreed. Based on pitch reports, playing PC may be a good option instead of one of the bats - either RS or RU.
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2008, 07:24:49 AM »
if the mcg wicket is slow and difficult i might consider getting in someone like karthik who is more suited for inns building in place of say RU ...
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2008, 10:00:29 AM »
RU however did well in Mumbai on a slow and tough wicket against Australia.
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2008, 01:12:18 PM »
Now, it seems as if SS is a doubtful starter ... down with fever.

No .. please ... seeing the Aussies tapping to Munaf on the boundary and running four is NOT my idea of super sunday.
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2008, 01:20:24 PM »
Now, it seems as if SS is a doubtful starter ... down with fever.

No .. please ... seeing the Aussies tapping to Munaf on the boundary and running four is NOT my idea of super sunday.

Do the rules allow batsmen to run FIVE ?!? We could see that tomorrow  :icon_jokercolor:

But apparently Donny said Piyush may get in if SS does not recover from fever !!! - 30 overs of spin  :o :o :o
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2008, 01:25:30 PM »
Now, it seems as if SS is a doubtful starter ... down with fever.

No .. please ... seeing the Aussies tapping to Munaf on the boundary and running four is NOT my idea of super sunday.

Do the rules allow batsmen to run FIVE ?!? We could see that tomorrow  :icon_jokercolor:

But apparently Donny said Piyush may get in if SS does not recover from fever !!! - 30 overs of spin  :o :o :o

piyush would be better than munaf ... but that would mean IKP opening the bowling .. which is not a good idea unless you have conditions extremely conducive for swing bowling
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2008, 05:31:19 PM »
how come SS gets fever so often ? ???
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« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2008, 05:48:12 PM »
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Do the rules allow batsmen to run FIVE ?!?


yes. batsmen can run as many as they can. I believe there is /are instance/s of batsmen running 7 or 6
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2008, 05:53:34 PM »
If Munna is allowed ot play against Aussies in the biggest ground down under, a new record could be set that will never be broken  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2008, 06:46:42 PM »
how come SS gets fever so often ? ???

it is jungle fever
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2008, 09:20:02 PM »
Karthik may play if Dhoni does not recover from a back strain 






Melbourne: The Indians were focussed at the indoor nets here on Saturday evening after rain drove away the players from the MCG. They also appeared relaxed, which is a good sign ahead of an important duel.

Sunday’s CB series day/night game will be crucial for Mahendra Singh Dhoni and his men. Australia played like a World Champion at the SCG on Friday and a young Indian team faces a test of character.

The buzzing bunch of youngsters need not look far for inspiration. Sachin Tendulkar oozed commitment during the nets and strode out from his stint a pleased man. He even shared a laugh with his teammates. Even in those periods when he his visage breaks into a smile, Tendulkar’s eyes retain their intensity.

Despite years of cricket, the maestro has the hunger. The giant stage of the MCG could witness Tendulkar conjure yet another classic. At the adjoining nets, Matthew Hayden faced countless balls from the bowling machine operated by coach Tim Nielsen. The man mountain never tires of making a mountain of runs.

Aggressive Hayden


Hayden’s early aggression provided Australia the crucial momentum against Sri Lanka. He could do so again on a venue where India has not beaten Australia in an ODI since 1986. The potential gems from Tendulkar and Hayden could be undone by rain.

The forecast, though, predicts periods of sunshine on Sunday.

The sun shone on Australia in Sydney. Ricky Ponting’s men were ruthless on the field, created pressure and exploited every chink. The surface at the MCG could be similar to the one at the SCG and the Aussies would be ready with pace, swing, seam and spin backed by electric fielding.

The Indian batting is bound to be tested. Does the squad have the answers? The middle-order proved vulnerable against Australia and Sri Lanka. Gautam Gambhir at the No. 3 slot, which is a top-order slot, and captain Mahendra Singh Dhoni strung together a fighting stand after Sri Lanka had made early inroads.

Yuvraj must fire


Against Australia, Dhoni and the lower order managed a recovery of sorts. India requires a sound opening partnership and a sizable innings from either Tendulkar or Virender Sehwag. Gambhir is in good touch but the side seeks runs from Yuvraj Singh.

Dinesh Karthik is a better player of pace than most of the younger cricketers in the side and a slot should be found for him against a side like Australia. Players like him, who relish the sniff of a combat, need to be encouraged.

If Dhoni does not stage a complete recovery from a minor back strain, Karthik could be in the eleven as a cover to keep wickets as well.

Despite suggestions, India is unlikely to play two spinners at the MCG. The spinners can be effective on a big ground but dropping a paceman could affect the balance of the side.

Ishant Sharma and S. Sreesanth were impressive against Australia at the ’Gabba and Irfan Pathan adds much as an all-rounder. If the need arises, Virender Sehwag could chip in with his off-spin. Sreesanth, recovering from fever, bowled at the nets.

There are talks about Australia resting Brett Lee but the fiery paceman is in such good rhythm that the Aussies would want this influential bowler to continue till the side leads the table in a more comprehensive manner; presently Australia has seven points from two games, India has four and Sri Lanka two.

More options


The Aussies have options in the bowling department. Contrasting left-arm pacemen Nathan Bracken and Mitchell Johnson were superb against the Lankans with cutters and changes of angle. Brad Hogg whipped up turn and bounce.

Australia, however, has worries in batting. Skipper Ricky Ponting has not been among the runs. If provided with an opening, the Indian bowling could sting.

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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2008, 02:31:39 AM »
Hmmmm, So KKD will come in for RS or RU ?!?
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2008, 02:51:17 AM »
Punter wins the toss and bats first.....

Hopes out with hamstring injury - Stuart Clark comes in
Haddin comes in for Brad Hogg

No spinner of a slow and low pitch  ??? ???

India has same side....
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2008, 03:13:27 AM »

No spinner of a slow and low pitch  ??? ???

Probably bcos it's day/nighter game.... Dew factor maybe. Remember 20-20 was played on the same ground and Indians were hopeless on that day
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2008, 03:19:44 AM »
AG  gone LBW - big inside edge ;D
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2008, 03:19:46 AM »
SS gets Gilly LBW for a DUCK !!!! - Oh dear !!! What a poor decision by Rudi - a big inside edge.....
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2008, 03:25:07 AM »
ishant sharma - 149.5 kmh on the free hit ball!!!
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2008, 03:27:27 AM »
so much for the young fielding side, RU  ::Whip::
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2008, 03:28:46 AM »
so much for the young fielding side, RU  ::Whip::

that wasnt easy
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2008, 03:32:18 AM »
Why is sehwag fielding at third man ? doesn't he catch well at slips? Dhoni's instincts i guess.
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2008, 03:33:20 AM »
yuvraj at mid off for hayden although he didnt stop the last one is good thinking
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2008, 03:35:49 AM »
yuvraj at mid off for hayden although he didnt stop the last one is good thinking

actually, it is because of his knee and he is still not 100% ;)

Hayden batting like a PSYCHO !!!!!!!!
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Re: India v/s Australia - Tri-series match at Melbourne
« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2008, 03:39:09 AM »
Ishant two consecutive no balls
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