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[keep-it-cool]

NEXT TARGET

ODIs: Score at an average of c.37 in the next 3 matches (non minnows)

[Last Update - Dt: Dec 24, 2008]

[pzd]

In runs

Target - 142
Scored so far - 102+39 = 141#
Required - 1
Innings left - 6 (min); 8-9 (max)*

*Assuming no injuries
#T20 score not counted

Gambhir is useless. He will never be able to score at a rate of 0.17 runs per innings unless he gets someone to change the rules.

 

 

[OldPal]

KIC he was dropped early on.. and  at least survived one run out (had the ball hit). 

[keep-it-cool]

Ok. He was dropped twice in the last match, was dropped once in this match, was almost run out in this match as well. Plus he was actually out in the last match and this innings is also over.

So, that makes it six innings (5 possible dismissals so far plus one innings that is already over). Let us take that out from the number of innings he has left. Out of a possible minimum of 8 innings, he has already exhausted six.

That means he has to score 1 run from 2 innings. Poor guy .. he is under so much pressure.

 

[OldPal]

Ok. He was dropped twice in the last match, was dropped once in this match, was almost run out in this match as well. Plus he was actually out in the last match and this innings is also over.

So, that makes it six innings (5 possible dismissals so far plus one innings that is already over). Let us take that out from the number of innings he has left. Out of a possible minimum of 8 innings, he has already exhausted six.

That means he has to score 1 run from 2 innings. Poor guy .. he is under so much pressure.

 

I like your interpretation of it .

God, your chance now to define how wide is the Gateway of India .

[keep-it-cool]

Ok. He was dropped twice in the last match, was dropped once in this match, was almost run out in this match as well. Plus he was actually out in the last match and this innings is also over.

So, that makes it six innings (5 possible dismissals so far plus one innings that is already over). Let us take that out from the number of innings he has left. Out of a possible minimum of 8 innings, he has already exhausted six.

That means he has to score 1 run from 2 innings. Poor guy .. he is under so much pressure.

 

I like your interpretation of it .

God you chance now to define how wide is the Gateway of India .

Doesnt matter ... this time, the gate was shut.

[OldPal]

Ok. He was dropped twice in the last match, was dropped once in this match, was almost run out in this match as well. Plus he was actually out in the last match and this innings is also over.

So, that makes it six innings (5 possible dismissals so far plus one innings that is already over). Let us take that out from the number of innings he has left. Out of a possible minimum of 8 innings, he has already exhausted six.

That means he has to score 1 run from 2 innings. Poor guy .. he is under so much pressure.

 

I like your interpretation of it .

God you chance now to define how wide is the Gateway of India .

Doesnt matter ... this time, the gate was shut.

I will wait for God to concurr with this ... Different perspectives      Some great one liners on the way !

[justforkix]

Ok. He was dropped twice in the last match, was dropped once in this match, was almost run out in this match as well. Plus he was actually out in the last match and this innings is also over.

So, that makes it six innings (5 possible dismissals so far plus one innings that is already over). Let us take that out from the number of innings he has left. Out of a possible minimum of 8 innings, he has already exhausted six.

That means he has to score 1 run from 2 innings. Poor guy .. he is under so much pressure.

 

I like your interpretation of it .

God you chance now to define how wide is the Gateway of India .

Doesnt matter ... this time, the gate was shut.

I will wait for God to concurr with this ... Different perspectives      Some great one liners on the way !

How can all of you not see that these 2 innings were nothing but FLUKES !!!! 

[ruchir]

You know why even God can't call this inning a fluke? 'cause GG remained not out. 

How about using this title for the thread - Gods must be crazy!

[keep-it-cool]

Ok. He was dropped twice in the last match, was dropped once in this match, was almost run out in this match as well. Plus he was actually out in the last match and this innings is also over.

So, that makes it six innings (5 possible dismissals so far plus one innings that is already over). Let us take that out from the number of innings he has left. Out of a possible minimum of 8 innings, he has already exhausted six.

That means he has to score 1 run from 2 innings. Poor guy .. he is under so much pressure.

 

I like your interpretation of it .

God you chance now to define how wide is the Gateway of India .

Doesnt matter ... this time, the gate was shut.

I will wait for God to concurr with this ... Different perspectives      Some great one liners on the way !

How can all of you not see that these 2 innings were nothing but FLUKES !!!! 

Title changed, Sir.

[keep-it-cool]

You know why even God can't call this inning a fluke? 'cause GG remained not out. 

How about using this title for the thread - Gods must be crazy!

No. The one I changed to now (on JFK's subtle hint) is perfect!

[Cover Point]

Khuda aaj bahut naaraz hain ...

Dekha unhon ne bahut ghoor ke Gambhir ko
Lekin woh to ball ko tap kar ke single chura ke chale gaye.

Aa-daab (no ruchir cant do that again )

[Cover Point]

hey prabhu, aap chupe ho kahan. is thread par darshan do. gambhir ki is gustakhi ka jawaab do.

[justforkix]

You know why even God can't call this inning a fluke? 'cause GG remained not out. 

How about using this title for the thread - Gods must be crazy!

No. The one I changed to now (on JFK's subtle hint) is perfect!

Very Nice !! 

[WicketView]

I forget exactly what gourav said about that total?

[keep-it-cool]

Come on guys, he had a view and said it upfront in no uncertain terms. Nothing wrong with that ...almost all of us went wrong on Sehwag as well in tests.

He was not the only one to discredit GG however. So, the crows must have been shared around a bit.

[justforkix]

I forget exactly what gourav said about that total?

Here:

http://www.cricketvoice.com/cricketforum2/index.php/topic,14721.msg186399.html#msg186399

Id be pleasantly surprised if GG manages 142 runs in total on this trip ... 

[keep-it-cool]

and I was close .. he did score them without getting out more than once

Id be pleasantly surprised if GG manages 142 runs in total on this trip ... 

possible if he gets injured after the first match

[dhruvdeepak]

since we are bashing God

Id be pleasantly surprised if GG manages 142 runs in total on this trip ... 

what do you mean ? he will score 142 in one game and then get injured  

Haha ... 9 runs scored ... he has potentially another 9 games to score 133 runs ... at an average of almost 15 which would be Bradmanesque for a player of his calibre !!!

of course the gateway of india's uselessness is stuff of legend !!!

MT looks good, sounds confident, is unknown, so is not a proven failure.

GG is third class.

Im not too concerned about MSDs performance. I think he is doing OK. What Im concerned about he is putting his faith in the wrong people viz. Gambhir etal.

Well VS is a bit of a disappointment for me given his obvious talent - I cant fathom if he can bat so well and so freely at test level why he cant produce those performances on the smaller stage.

GG has no class whatsoever.

RU - Im still willing to punt on him because I think he has that X-factor - he has won us a match and I always have a soft corner for match-winners

KKD - probably not the kind of player who is going to clear the boundaries at the MCG ever, so maybe a role for him if at all has to be that of an anchor/grafter/finisher ... somewhere at 6/7 ...

As far as T20 is concerned this is the first real major failure we have had. So maybe we can pardon it.

But there are several points. GGs failure was bound to happen. His success was a fluke.

VS is not the same player in limited overs cricket as he is in test cricket.

RU has shown promise but little substance yet.

KKD - a bit of an enigma, definitely not the man you are looking for if you want a big hitter

RS - the most  promising of the young lot but needs some time to mature.

YS - he may not make it to the test level but he is a fine player at this level and we really missed him

MSD - bats too low to make much of an impact !!!

Oh yes yes !! You are right !! His uselessness' new nickname is Gateway of India.

Because when we put him to open he opens the gates as wide as the gateway of India for the opposition to run through India by his pathetic performances !!!


 

Im only choosing The Gateway of India so that he can entertain us by his flop-show 

putting his uselessness up there is like leaving a gate as big as the gateway of india for the aussies to enter ... hey that might not be a bad nickname for his uselessness ... the gateway of india !!!

Well I have already said it - his uselessness is not going to reach 140 runs in total in this series !!! 

GG always does well in any cricket which is a level lower than international cricket ... so that is no surprise really ...

[prfsr]

THIS IS PATHETIC.

I deleted a previous post with (edit: should be "complaining against the", not "with") name-calling because the poster assured me it was all in fun. However, in my opinion this thread crosses the elements of good  tolerable taste.

I would like to make my displeasure known, however irrelevant that may be.

-P

[justforkix]

THIS IS PATHETIC.

I deleted a previous post with name-calling because the poster assured me it was all in fun. However, in my opinion this thread crosses the elements of good  tolerable taste.

I would like to make my displeasure known, however irrelevant that may be.

-P

From past history, I think  does take these in the right spirit..... hence folks here are having fun. If he's offended by any of these posts, it shall be removed.

[OldPal]

THIS IS PATHETIC.

I deleted a previous post with name-calling because the poster assured me it was all in fun. However, in my opinion this thread crosses the elements of good  tolerable taste.

I would like to make my displeasure known, however irrelevant that may be.

-P

TO add to it - THE POSTER Banned .

I will stand by GOD . I like his guts about predicting and making decisions .. MSD is nothing in front of GOD .
Who knows will GG  really get to 142 ?

From past history, I think  does take these in the right spirit..... hence folks here are having fun. If he's offended by any of these posts, it shall be removed.

[keep-it-cool]

A) I fail to see how most posts on this thread are harmful. Someone made a prediction and it has gone horribly wrong (if GG does manage to score an additional run) and he's being called out on it. That is hardly surprising or bad as long as there are no personal insults in there. All the numbers on this thread are factual, all posts ascribed to him by DD are ones he himself made - so, what is the big deal?

B) As JFK said, gourav takes these in the right spirit. This does not even come close to the Godspeak thread started by Blwe long back

C) like Pankaj, even I look forward with great interest to his posts for his straight talk and clear cut opinions. We have a lot of issues where we agree as well (GG being useless was one of them before the T20 WC as well). However, there are issues on which we disagree and nothing wrong in highlighting those either.

[prfsr]

This is called ganging up, in case you did not know it k-i-c.

I am sure you find nothing objectionable to "god of clowns" (on a different thread, I think), insinuations of being an immature infant (parents gone to vote) who clowns around. Gourav has been a great sport in the past -- se we should gang up on him? He is the first one to make an incorrect prediction, right?

This thread also sets a terrible precedent in general.

Anyway, I have explained my stance. I do not claim to have protested every wrong thread in the past  -- I am neither a mod nor a self-appointed policeman.

With three mods involved, I am sure this thread is in safe hands.

-P

[OldPal]

This is called ganging up, in case you did not know it k-i-c.

I am sure you find nothing objectionable to "god of clowns", insinuations of being an immature infant (parents gone to vote) who clowns around. Gourav has been a great sport in the past.

This also sets a terrible precedent in general.

Anyway, I have explained my stance. I do not claim to have protested every wrong thread in the past  -- I am neither a mod nor a self-appointed policeman.

With three mods involved, I am sure this thread is in safe hands.
-P

I agree with Prof about usage of  "god of ****", insinuations of being an immature infant (p****** gone to vote) who c**** around.. I feel those posts should be edited.
If someone is more sportive, does not give us a right to Gang UP. I am however positive about GOD's ever merry attitude.

[keep-it-cool]

This is called ganging up, in case you did not know it k-i-c.

If one person holds a view and several others do not, I fail to see how that is ganging up. There have been multiple ocassions where I have argued on issues on which no one apart from me saw things that way. I dont see anything wrong with that. In so far as pointing out how wrong a prediction was, I fail to see how it really matters whether one person says it or multiple persons say it.

I am sure you find nothing objectionable to "god of clowns" (on a different thread, I think), insinuations of being an immature infant (parents gone to vote) who clowns around.

As I said, I am not in favour of any personal insults ... and posted immediately (if you go up the thread to reply 17) that one should not blame him for making a wrong prediction. However, the odd post here and there do not make it a ganging up effort. Most threads on this DG are opinions and those who do not agree with those opinions trying to discredit them through use of facts.

Gourav has been a great sport in the past -- se we should gang up on him? He is the first one to make an incorrect prediction, right?

No. He is not. And he is not the first one to be called out on an incorrect prediction or difference of opinion either.

This thread also sets a terrible precedent in general.

What is terrible about it? Debating / highlighting whether a prediction was right or wrong? I welcome that .. dont find it terrible at all.

Personal insults? I am not at all in favour of that, but then this thread is hardly a precedent ... there are people whose characters have been dissected on threads for less ... although I am not at all saying that those justify more of their kind.

Anyway, I have explained my stance. I do not claim to have protested every wrong thread in the past  -- I am neither a mod nor a self-appointed policeman.

With three mods involved, I am sure this thread is in safe hands.

-P

Fair enough.

[justforkix]

This is called ganging up, in case you did not know it k-i-c.

I am sure you find nothing objectionable to "god of clowns", insinuations of being an immature infant (parents gone to vote) who clowns around. Gourav has been a great sport in the past.

This also sets a terrible precedent in general.

Anyway, I have explained my stance. I do not claim to have protested every wrong thread in the past  -- I am neither a mod nor a self-appointed policeman.

With three mods involved, I am sure this thread is in safe hands.
-P

I agree with Prof about usage of  "god of ****", insinuations of being an immature infant (p****** gone to vote) who c**** around.. I feel those posts should be edited.
If someone is more sportive, does not give us a right to Gang UP. I am however positive about GOD's every merry attitude.

pankaj and prfsr:

I think the instances that you point out are in the match thread. However, it spans 6 pages and removing these posts from this thread will truly be a nightmare, possibly more than half hour of effort (donkey work). I don't want to do it unless it is absolutely necessary. I am moving that thread now to the Match Threads board, as is the norm.

gouravk: If you have any objections to any posts in this thread, in the match thread or anywhere else, please PM me and I will those posts.

[WicketView]

I forget exactly what gourav said about that total?

Here:

http://www.cricketvoice.com/cricketforum2/index.php/topic,14721.msg186399.html#msg186399

Id be pleasantly surprised if GG manages 142 runs in total on this trip ... 

Good, then he is pleasantly surprised, which I must say I am, too, at his good innings. This seems different from "I will do something if he manages those runs", so what is the big deal?

[keep-it-cool]

Nothing. No big deal. Just that the Gateway of India has remained shut so far hope it remains that way!

[poondu]

Wouldn't it better if YS and GG exchanged batting positions ? GG seems to be a better player of spin bowling. He is still fishing outside the offstump to the pace bowlers.

[keep-it-cool]

Not a bad thought but Yuvi has not been great early on either. I think he is better from the team's perspective for No4, esp if he can keep last year's form going.

[gouravk]

Did not see the inns so wont comment much on it. Was on flight from the wintry snowstorms of the Midwest on my way to India so did not get time to respond. All I can say is that I would be pleasantly surprised if he manages to double his score so far in the rest of the series ...

Anyway on a more serious note it wasnt a bad effort at all. However it should be noted he got the advantage of a good foundation laid by SRT and VS altho admittedly it became difficult at 4/80. Having said that prior to his inns his average in this stint was 28 ( he sucked) with this inns he has gone up to 37 which is decent. As jfk said he will get the rest of the series, so let us see where his average ends up ...

[OldPal]

Gov,
Let us ask you this question .
What do you think GG has to do so that he earns some respect as a batsman from you.
Quantitatives would be appreciated.
We don't have to start from past .
 e.g : you can say an average of 40 for next five games(i.e he scores 200 in firve inngs) etc ...

[justforkix]

Did not see the inns so wont comment much on it. Was on flight from the wintry snowstorms of the Midwest on my way to India so did not get time to respond. All I can say is that I would be pleasantly surprised if he manages to double his score so far in the rest of the series ...

So, target for Gambhir is 141 in the next 6 games to please     

[LosingNow]

Did not see the inns so wont comment much on it. Was on flight from the wintry snowstorms of the Midwest on my way to India so did not get time to respond. All I can say is that I would be pleasantly surprised if he manages to double his score so far in the rest of the series ...

So, target for Gambhir is 141 in the next 6 games to please     

One fluke down.. few more flukes to come

[gouravk]

I cant set any targets like an avg of 40 in the next 5 games becoz 5 games is simply not enough a long enough period to judge. I would say if he can average 35 for the next 25 games maybe ... (deminnowfied)

[LosingNow]

I cant set any targets like an avg of 40 in the next 5 games becoz 5 games is simply not enough a long enough period to judge. I would say if he can average 35 for the next 25 games maybe ... (deminnowfied)

..on grassy pitches .. against Australia/SA.. in Australia/SA .. when the weather is cloudy.. and it is swinging/seaming ...

[Cover Point]

I cant set any targets like an avg of 40 in the next 5 games becoz 5 games is simply not enough a long enough period to judge. I would say if he can average 35 for the next 25 games maybe ... (deminnowfied)

how many Indian players have that kind of average? Oh and at a 85+ SR too right?

[gouravk]

ok i will tone down my expectations ... average of 30 in the next 25 games ? baas ?

[OldPal]

25 games is a long haul .. Why cant you just take the last 25 games in that case.
Or let us pick last 20 + next 5 ..
25 for now is an imaginary number for me