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Who will win the Iowa caucuses on the Republican side?

Huckabee
- 3 (25%)
Romney
- 3 (25%)
McCain
- 2 (16.7%)
Guiliani
- 1 (8.3%)
Paul
- 1 (8.3%)
Other
- 2 (16.7%)

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Re: US 2008 Presidential Primaries : Republican Nomination : IOWA
« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2008, 05:41:49 AM »
Come on, guys? Why is this thread dead? Are WN and me the only ones to talk about Repubs? Rest all are Dems?

McCain wins NH. Not sure how many were expecting it!! Today is the day of surprises. McCain and Killton, wow...

Nationally, the race seems to be between McCain, Huckster and Rudy. Rudy has money to spend but Huckster and McCain don't have that luxury. Question is how will they find money to survive one more month. Romney is 4th in national polls but have lots of money to spend. This gives Rudy an advantage. People think Huckster wont go too far. Seems like he doesn't have enough money and coming states may not like his religious views (that helped him in Iowa a lot). He is living a dream run right now, which may not be replicated nationally (in spite of the polls). Sadly, Ron Paul is going nowhere.

Romney should be getting tummyaches now. Winning non-entity Wyoming and coming 2nd in IA and NH. Not good. Lots of money but 4th in standing. Rudy is waiting for bigger states, where he has big chances of winning. If Huckster and McCain starts cutting into Romney and Rudy votes, Romney will lose more IMO.

This race is way more interesting than Dem race, which has now turned 2-way, with Edwards going nowhere.
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Re: US 2008 Presidential Primaries : Republican Nomination : IOWA
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2008, 01:46:28 PM »
I am rooting for a Hillary vs McCain contest. That will be something.

If the confusion continues till Super Tuesday .. I would not count out Guiliani !
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Re: US 2008 Presidential Primaries : Republican Nomination : IOWA
« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2008, 02:57:59 PM »
WN -

In my opinion, Giuliani will win a lot of states (and delegates) in the Super Tuesday face/off. Remember, most of the states having primaries on Super Tuesday are populous states with high number of delegates. Giuliani might be able to seal the deal off in one single day.

Actually, Hill v Mac or Hill V Gill, both will be very interesting.
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Re: US 2008 Presidential Primaries : Republican Nomination : IOWA
« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2008, 10:28:10 PM »
WN -

In my opinion, Giuliani will win a lot of states (and delegates) in the Super Tuesday face/off. Remember, most of the states having primaries on Super Tuesday are populous states with high number of delegates. Giuliani might be able to seal the deal off in one single day.

Actually, Hill v Mac or Hill V Gill, both will be very interesting.

except that Jewells doesnt have a snowflakes chance in hell of winning any of the southern states. The value voters dont like his values. You can only 9/11 people so much :)
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Re: US 2008 Presidential Primaries : Republican Nomination : IOWA
« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2008, 11:05:02 PM »
WN -

In my opinion, Giuliani will win a lot of states (and delegates) in the Super Tuesday face/off. Remember, most of the states having primaries on Super Tuesday are populous states with high number of delegates. Giuliani might be able to seal the deal off in one single day.

Actually, Hill v Mac or Hill V Gill, both will be very interesting.


McCain - If he has the money, he can win but he is seen as pro-illegal immigration and it is impossible to win the  south (he won NH because of the independents)

Romney - Has the single most important thing (money) and he is well placed (2 second places), if he continues to place 2nd/3rd, he has a very good chance at the convention. In case no republican gets a majority, Romney  might be a compromise candidate with the highest number of delegates in the end. Romney actually won among the republicans in NH (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/index.html#NHREP).

Huckabee - Can win south carolina and that will be a huge boost. Money is the only problem. Seen as economic liberal so hard for fiscal conservatives to accept. In a brokered convention, huckabee/mccain ticket might be the outcome

Thompson - might drop out after south carolina, arguably the closest to the republican platform (states rights, low taxes, anti-illegal immigration) but seen as sluggish and uninspiring

Giuliani - bad strategy , banking on florida to win super tuesday, what happens if he loses florida (looks like his lead is erased)? he will lose most of the states on feb. 5th
               California has mini primaries (each congressional district has 3 delegates, whoever wins the district will win those delegates. so, no single candidate can take advantage of cali. )

Here are the scenario's I can think of:
         1) Romney wins michigan, finishes a strong second behind huckabee/mccain in SC and wins NV, huckabee wins florida and all 3 split super tuesday states
         2) mccain wins michigan and SC, finishes 2nd in florida to huckabee, romney wins NV, everyone splits feb. 5th states
         3) huckabee wins MI, SC, FL, mccain wins NV, and both sweep everything without the money (very unlikely). mccain/huckabee ticket
  Giuliani will come into picture if romney looses NV and MI to the same candidate and if giuliani can finish above 4th place anywhere.
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Re: US 2008 Presidential Primaries : Republican Nomination : IOWA
« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2008, 04:33:50 AM »
in practice, it very rarely, if ever, happens that the election is decided in the convention by counting of delegates. all that is decided much earlier by whoever looks like theyre going to win...the rest of the ppl just drop out and start endorsing the winner to keep the party united. elections will be decided by super tuesday, imo, based on whoever looks like he is commanding most of the states. theres a lot of pressure from the party itself to force candidates to drop out once they start finishing 2nd/3rd into a month of primaries
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Re: US 2008 Presidential Primaries : Republican Nomination : IOWA
« Reply #46 on: January 11, 2008, 04:44:21 AM »
Watched the GOP SC debate on Fox. Must say, if I was eligible to vote, I would have voted for Ron Paul. He was the most sensible person out their. I liked his view on foreign policy, immigration and economy. Everyone else was into serious rhetoric (except immigration). I liked what Thompson had to say on immigration. Incidentally, Ron Paul was getting most SMS votes after the debate  ;D even though a small group of audience thought he was the loser.  ;D ;D
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Re: US 2008 Presidential Primaries : Republican Nomination : IOWA
« Reply #47 on: January 11, 2008, 05:31:23 AM »
Watched the GOP SC debate on Fox. Must say, if I was eligible to vote, I would have voted for Ron Paul. He was the most sensible person out their. I liked his view on foreign policy, immigration and economy. Everyone else was into serious rhetoric (except immigration). I liked what Thompson had to say on immigration. Incidentally, Ron Paul was getting most SMS votes after the debate  ;D even though a small group of audience thought he was the loser.  ;D ;D
He was on fire today! Most knowledgeable on economics and the line(paraphrasing not exact quote) about "borrowing 10 billion from china to give to musharaff who is a dictator all the while losing lives in Iraq to protect democracy" was a gem.
Too bad most of the republican party wont vote for him.
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Re: US 2008 Presidential Primaries : Republican Nomination : IOWA
« Reply #48 on: January 11, 2008, 05:37:14 AM »
in practice, it very rarely, if ever, happens that the election is decided in the convention by counting of delegates. all that is decided much earlier by whoever looks like theyre going to win...the rest of the ppl just drop out and start endorsing the winner to keep the party united. elections will be decided by super tuesday, imo, based on whoever looks like he is commanding most of the states. theres a lot of pressure from the party itself to force candidates to drop out once they start finishing 2nd/3rd into a month of primaries

I agree it wont happen normally but this years republican race is so fluid it might actually happen... even after feb. 5th there can possibly be 4 cadidates with no clear front runner...
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