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[achutank]

51 from Saurav in 86, 29 from 112 for Rahul - 72 run unbeaten partnership

meanwhile virendra enjoys first day of working holiday in the stands glancing through 8 local desi menus and wondering why ICC can't allow Dominoes into the Dressing Room

[manee]

29 from 112 for Rahul

If Dravid could do it on a regular basis, and consistently bat through the innings, he could be an invaluable opener.

Anyone notice that with Dravid opening, Sehwag is understudy to Jaffer. Failure in first two Tests for Jaffer may see Sehwag in the third!

[Vick]

29 from 112 for Rahul

If Dravid could do it on a regular basis, and consistently bat through the innings, he could be an invaluable opener.

Anyone notice that with Dravid opening, Sehwag is understudy to Jaffer. Failure in first two Tests for Jaffer may see Sehwag in the third!

And that would be a stupid decision. Jaffar has been quite consistent and we need to stop dropping openers as soon as they fail in 2 games.

[ramshorns]

29 from 112 for Rahul

If Dravid could do it on a regular basis, and consistently bat through the innings, he could be an invaluable opener.

Anyone notice that with Dravid opening, Sehwag is understudy to Jaffer. Failure in first two Tests for Jaffer may see Sehwag in the third!

And that would be a stupid decision. Jaffar has been quite consistent and we need to stop dropping openers as soon as they fail in 2 games.

Agreed.  Jaffer based on the recent peformances over the last 12 months or so should play all 4 test matches barring injury.  If Sehwag needs to be fitted in for some reason it has to come at someone else's expense.

[manee]

29 from 112 for Rahul

If Dravid could do it on a regular basis, and consistently bat through the innings, he could be an invaluable opener.

Anyone notice that with Dravid opening, Sehwag is understudy to Jaffer. Failure in first two Tests for Jaffer may see Sehwag in the third!

And that would be a stupid decision. Jaffar has been quite consistent and we need to stop dropping openers as soon as they fail in 2 games.

I know it would be a stupid decision but with Sehwag in the squad, that is the likely scenario.

[Cover Point]

wrong thread perhaps, but did anyone notice the catch Clark claimed in the 3rd ODI vs NZ. That was SO obviously not a catch. The ball was CLEARLY grassed with his fingers closing on top of the grassed ball. IC was on air but that great epitome of cricket ethics went on defending it when almost everyone else had shut up in embarrassment.

Oh man, how I wish we could just shut up the aussie media for once.

These are hardened criminals/ thick-skinned thieves.............the going will be tough. Criminals metamorphosized over generations.

Wow. What a statement!

[Blwe_torch]

wrong thread perhaps, but did anyone notice the catch Clark claimed in the 3rd ODI vs NZ. That was SO obviously not a catch. The ball was CLEARLY grassed with his fingers closing on top of the grassed ball. IC was on air but that great epitome of cricket ethics went on defending it when almost everyone else had shut up in embarrassment.

Oh man, how I wish we could just shut up the aussie media for once.

These are hardened criminals/ thick-skinned thieves.............the going will be tough. Criminals metamorphosized over generations.

Wow. What a statement!

itni high-funda philosophy hazm ho payi?

[Cover Point]

wrong thread perhaps, but did anyone notice the catch Clark claimed in the 3rd ODI vs NZ. That was SO obviously not a catch. The ball was CLEARLY grassed with his fingers closing on top of the grassed ball. IC was on air but that great epitome of cricket ethics went on defending it when almost everyone else had shut up in embarrassment.

Oh man, how I wish we could just shut up the aussie media for once.

These are hardened criminals/ thick-skinned thieves.............the going will be tough. Criminals metamorphosized over generations.

Wow. What a statement!

itni high-funda philosophy hazm ho payi?

Hum to aapki 'fair and balanced' race view ki daad de rahe hain. 

[Cover Point]

SG giving McGain some treatment here

35.3 McGain to Ganguly, FOUR, on the leg stump, Ganguly advances down the ground and lifts to mid wicket for a boundary 

35.4 McGain to Ganguly, FOUR, short outside off, Ganguly goes back and cuts to cover for a boundary 

37.1 McGain to Ganguly, FOUR, fuller in length, Ganguly comes down the track and smashes him past mid off for a boundary 

37.3 McGain to Ganguly, FOUR, on the leg stump, Advances down the track and smashes to mid wicket for a boundary 

Why is Ganguly such an anti national player? He knows our only chance of victory is if we can dupe the Aussies into playing one or more spinners. By going after this spinner in a meaningless practice game for personal selfish records he will ensure that the Aussies go in with four pacers in the Test match. And then India's duck will be cooked (I dont like Goose). I mean how selfish can one get?

[CLR James]

SG giving McGain some treatment here

35.3 McGain to Ganguly, FOUR, on the leg stump, Ganguly advances down the ground and lifts to mid wicket for a boundary 

35.4 McGain to Ganguly, FOUR, short outside off, Ganguly goes back and cuts to cover for a boundary 

37.1 McGain to Ganguly, FOUR, fuller in length, Ganguly comes down the track and smashes him past mid off for a boundary 

37.3 McGain to Ganguly, FOUR, on the leg stump, Advances down the track and smashes to mid wicket for a boundary 

Why is Ganguly such an anti national player? He knows our only chance of victory is if we can dupe the Aussies into playing one or more spinners. By going after this spinner in a meaningless practice game for personal selfish records he will ensure that the Aussies go in with four pacers in the Test match. And then India's duck will be cooked (I dont like Goose). I mean how selfish can one get?

This is correct.  . Once it would be a standard policy for touring Indian sides to make domestic spinners look like Shane Warne and Bill O'Reilly combined in the first class matches. Once they were drafted in for the test matches, they were eaten for breakfast. The Indian team did this to a bunch of West Indian spinners in the seventies.

With SG however, CP offers a hobson's choice. Damnation is eternal; what remains to be seen is whether SG scores and is damned or flops and is damned.

[Blwe_torch]

SG giving McGain some treatment here

35.3 McGain to Ganguly, FOUR, on the leg stump, Ganguly advances down the ground and lifts to mid wicket for a boundary 

35.4 McGain to Ganguly, FOUR, short outside off, Ganguly goes back and cuts to cover for a boundary 

37.1 McGain to Ganguly, FOUR, fuller in length, Ganguly comes down the track and smashes him past mid off for a boundary 

37.3 McGain to Ganguly, FOUR, on the leg stump, Advances down the track and smashes to mid wicket for a boundary 

Why is Ganguly such an anti national player? He knows our only chance of victory is if we can dupe the Aussies into playing one or more spinners. By going after this spinner in a meaningless practice game for personal selfish records he will ensure that the Aussies go in with four pacers in the Test match. And then India's duck will be cooked (I dont like Goose). I mean how selfish can one get?

This is correct.  . Once it would be a standard policy for touring Indian sides to make domestic spinners look like Shane Warne and Bill O'Reilly combined in the first class matches. Once they were drafted in for the test matches, they were eaten for breakfast. The Indian team did this to a bunch of West Indian spinners in the seventies.

With SG however, CP offers a hobson's choice. Damnation is eternal; what remains to be seen is whether SG scores and is damned or flops and is damned.

That is anyway a CP centric issue.............sometimes he flogs himself, thinking it is Ganguly!

[Blwe_torch]

wrong thread perhaps, but did anyone notice the catch Clark claimed in the 3rd ODI vs NZ. That was SO obviously not a catch. The ball was CLEARLY grassed with his fingers closing on top of the grassed ball. IC was on air but that great epitome of cricket ethics went on defending it when almost everyone else had shut up in embarrassment.

Oh man, how I wish we could just shut up the aussie media for once.

These are hardened criminals/ thick-skinned thieves.............the going will be tough. Criminals metamorphosized over generations.

Wow. What a statement!

itni high-funda philosophy hazm ho payi?

Hum to aapki 'fair and balanced' race view ki daad de rahe hain. 

Thank you sirjee.....I hope you don't mind my innocent jibes?

[dextrous]

wrong thread perhaps, but did anyone notice the catch Clark claimed in the 3rd ODI vs NZ. That was SO obviously not a catch. The ball was CLEARLY grassed with his fingers closing on top of the grassed ball. IC was on air but that great epitome of cricket ethics went on defending it when almost everyone else had shut up in embarrassment.

Oh man, how I wish we could just shut up the aussie media for once.

These are hardened criminals/ thick-skinned thieves.............the going will be tough. Criminals metamorphosized over generations.

Wow. What a statement!

itni high-funda philosophy hazm ho payi?

Hum to aapki 'fair and balanced' race view ki daad de rahe hain. 

Thank you sirjee.....I hope you don't mind my innocent jibes?

not unless his imaginary friend Greg is an aussie...

[Cover Point]

SG giving McGain some treatment here

35.3 McGain to Ganguly, FOUR, on the leg stump, Ganguly advances down the ground and lifts to mid wicket for a boundary 

35.4 McGain to Ganguly, FOUR, short outside off, Ganguly goes back and cuts to cover for a boundary 

37.1 McGain to Ganguly, FOUR, fuller in length, Ganguly comes down the track and smashes him past mid off for a boundary 

37.3 McGain to Ganguly, FOUR, on the leg stump, Advances down the track and smashes to mid wicket for a boundary 

Why is Ganguly such an anti national player? He knows our only chance of victory is if we can dupe the Aussies into playing one or more spinners. By going after this spinner in a meaningless practice game for personal selfish records he will ensure that the Aussies go in with four pacers in the Test match. And then India's duck will be cooked (I dont like Goose). I mean how selfish can one get?

This is correct.  . Once it would be a standard policy for touring Indian sides to make domestic spinners look like Shane Warne and Bill O'Reilly combined in the first class matches. Once they were drafted in for the test matches, they were eaten for breakfast. The Indian team did this to a bunch of West Indian spinners in the seventies.

With SG however, CP offers a hobson's choice. Damnation is eternal; what remains to be seen is whether SG scores and is damned or flops and is damned.

We worry that it may be flops and is damned

[justforkix]

29 from 112 for Rahul

If Dravid could do it on a regular basis, and consistently bat through the innings, he could be an invaluable opener.

Anyone notice that with Dravid opening, Sehwag is understudy to Jaffer. Failure in first two Tests for Jaffer may see Sehwag in the third!

And that would be a stupid decision. Jaffar has been quite consistent and we need to stop dropping openers as soon as they fail in 2 games.

Agreed.  Jaffer based on the recent peformances over the last 12 months or so should play all 4 test matches barring injury.  If Sehwag needs to be fitted in for some reason it has to come at someone else's expense.

Well, one must realize that openers are allowed only 3 failures before they are dropped. For e.g., KKD

[dextrous]

29 from 112 for Rahul

If Dravid could do it on a regular basis, and consistently bat through the innings, he could be an invaluable opener.

Anyone notice that with Dravid opening, Sehwag is understudy to Jaffer. Failure in first two Tests for Jaffer may see Sehwag in the third!

And that would be a stupid decision. Jaffar has been quite consistent and we need to stop dropping openers as soon as they fail in 2 games.

Agreed.  Jaffer based on the recent peformances over the last 12 months or so should play all 4 test matches barring injury.  If Sehwag needs to be fitted in for some reason it has to come at someone else's expense.

Well, one must realize that openers are allowed only 3 failures before they are dropped. For e.g., KKD

Well, Jaffer track record is based on a larger number of tests than KKD's is. Thus, it makes sense to give him more matches to save his arse than an unproven quantity who had one good series and has a very mediocre FC record.

[justforkix]

29 from 112 for Rahul

If Dravid could do it on a regular basis, and consistently bat through the innings, he could be an invaluable opener.

Anyone notice that with Dravid opening, Sehwag is understudy to Jaffer. Failure in first two Tests for Jaffer may see Sehwag in the third!

And that would be a stupid decision. Jaffar has been quite consistent and we need to stop dropping openers as soon as they fail in 2 games.

Agreed.  Jaffer based on the recent peformances over the last 12 months or so should play all 4 test matches barring injury.  If Sehwag needs to be fitted in for some reason it has to come at someone else's expense.

Well, one must realize that openers are allowed only 3 failures before they are dropped. For e.g., KKD

Well, Jaffer track record is based on a larger number of tests than KKD's is. Thus, it makes sense to give him more matches to save his arse than an unproven quantity who had one good series and has a very mediocre FC record.

Well, another example: Viru lost his place after 1 poor series (5 innings).

If every player were to dropped after 3 low scores following a good series, careers of RD/SRT/SG/VVS would have lasted 1-2 years max.

[LosingNow]

meanwhile virendra enjoys first day of working holiday in the stands glancing through 8 local desi menus and wondering why ICC can't allow Dominoes into the Dressing Room

Dominos delivers Aloo Paranthas in Australia ??

[manee]

29 from 112 for Rahul

If Dravid could do it on a regular basis, and consistently bat through the innings, he could be an invaluable opener.

Anyone notice that with Dravid opening, Sehwag is understudy to Jaffer. Failure in first two Tests for Jaffer may see Sehwag in the third!

And that would be a stupid decision. Jaffar has been quite consistent and we need to stop dropping openers as soon as they fail in 2 games.

Agreed.  Jaffer based on the recent peformances over the last 12 months or so should play all 4 test matches barring injury.  If Sehwag needs to be fitted in for some reason it has to come at someone else's expense.

Well, one must realize that openers are allowed only 3 failures before they are dropped. For e.g., KKD

I'm not sure if people get that I am saying what will likely happen, not what should happen.

[inoc]

29 from 112 for Rahul

If Dravid could do it on a regular basis, and consistently bat through the innings, he could be an invaluable opener.

Anyone notice that with Dravid opening, Sehwag is understudy to Jaffer. Failure in first two Tests for Jaffer may see Sehwag in the third!

And that would be a stupid decision. Jaffar has been quite consistent and we need to stop dropping openers as soon as they fail in 2 games.

Agreed.  Jaffer based on the recent peformances over the last 12 months or so should play all 4 test matches barring injury.  If Sehwag needs to be fitted in for some reason it has to come at someone else's expense.

Well, one must realize that openers are allowed only 3 failures before they are dropped. For e.g., KKD

Well, Jaffer track record is based on a larger number of tests than KKD's is. Thus, it makes sense to give him more matches to save his arse than an unproven quantity who had one good series and has a very mediocre FC record.

Well, another example: Viru lost his place after 1 poor series (5 innings).

If every player were to dropped after 3 low scores following a good series, careers of RD/SRT/SG/VVS would have lasted 1-2 years max.

jfk

although it is convenient to say that VS was dropped after 5 innings - in reality it is not so. firstly, it is on the basis of 8 innings in SA (0,4,4,33,0,8,40,4 (the 40 as a MO when the team started to think that he was not good as an opener), and secondly and more importantly VS was poor for some time with the occassional good innings. his last five series averages are:

18.66,
73.50, (254, nil else)
19.0,
51, (180, 65)
14.83

2 massive hundreds in 26 innings with 2 other 50s only swells his average in that period to 35. this coupled with his ODI performances were the cricketing reasons for his ouster. i believe there were some not so cricketing reasons as well.

similarly SG was also dropped for inconsistencies and although he didnt have the hundreds (against non minnows), he had the occassional scores (the last 19 innings after his 144 were, excluding minnows,

2,12,37,73,16,77,45,5,9,57,40, (avg 34), comparable with VSs average in a similar time frame/test matches.
21,12,12,1,2,5,40,39 (avg 16.5) - last 8 innings if comparing with VS - VS averaged 11.6.
He also was the culprit in not performing with consistency and was rightfully dropped.

VVS i believe if my memory serves me right was dropped for similar inconsistencies.

You wont find this kind of sequences with RD/SRT i believe.

i am also certain that the situation with KKD is different. he is not an established player and his scores since return have been good but not excellent.(63,38*,5,60,77,22,91,8,9,1,1,28,24,52 ). overall (since return) avg 36.85; last 8 innings avg 26.75.

the think tank in trying to get the best possible batting line is possibly contemplating a team without KKD. he loses out now on the current scenario. he is in the running and when the situation changes he will be in the mix.

i will rather have KKD miss out than YS (not in form inexperienced player w.r.t inform experienced player, with regards to international exposure not tests per se)

[LosingNow]

SC Ganguly c Blizzard b Wise 59 (99b 9x4 0x6) SR: 59.59

[Blwe_torch]

SC Ganguly c Blizzard b Wise 59 (99b 9x4 0x6) SR: 59.59

hmm...only a blizzard can stop ganguly now!

[VMenon]

SC Ganguly c Blizzard b Wise 59 (99b 9x4 0x6) SR: 59.59

hmm...only a blizzard can stop ganguly now!

Or some one whose "wise" !!!! 

[Blwe_torch]

SC Ganguly c Blizzard b Wise 59 (99b 9x4 0x6) SR: 59.59

hmm...only a blizzard can stop ganguly now!

Or some one whose "wise" !!!! 

Wisdom is coming at a premium these days ma'm!