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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #80 on: October 26, 2007, 01:51:16 PM »
PP hits a beautiful 4 of Praveen.

After watching 2 overs of PK, IMO, he will never be able to bowl fast.. too much shoulder and he is short for a fast bowler.

I dont know why he needs to bowl fast. if he can maintain his pace in high 120's and move the ball both ways that should be good enough. remember Bala was exactly around this pace when he played first time for India. And he was one dimentional bowling only in swingers.

Vick, I agree it is not all about pace, but Balaji with similar pace appeared to have much more nip off the pitch for some reason ... PK, from what I have seen of him so far, does not have that ... he may improve .. in that case great ... for instance, look at what a few yards of added pace has done to RPS' bowling!!

You are talking of BalaJi of Pakistan tour and of later stage. When he came in he looked worse than Kumar. If you can find messages posted by all the fans about him in his debut test match they will look exactly like these. And he came in with similer short of stats(actually little better) in domestic. He improved, added few more variation and would have been proven a good bowler even with 130 KMPH pace. I have problem with people saying oh He is just sub 125 bowler, will be sorted out, which somehow indicates that he is being gifted all the wickets he has taken. And he has taken a load of them, even against A teams.
And if RP can add few more yard of pace then may be KLumar will too. The more important ingredient which is movement is there.
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #81 on: October 26, 2007, 01:55:26 PM »
Vick, Balaji improved before he was successful at the international stage.

If Kumar can swing the ball like he does now at a greater pace, then I dont think anyone here will have a problem. I think everyone here is only saying is that the way he is bowling now (and the way he got all those domestic wickets), he is unlikely to have a big impact at the international level.
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #82 on: October 26, 2007, 01:57:18 PM »
PP gone.. Flicks a catch to fine leg/square leg of Trivedi's first ball.

He looked technically very good.. definitely better than KKD and MSD ..from batting technique standpoint. Struggled to raise the RR here. Maybe he should play tests!!

Tiwari and Sharma ON.. hmm!!!
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #83 on: October 26, 2007, 02:01:16 PM »
Vick, Balaji improved before he was successful at the international stage.

If Kumar can swing the ball like he does now at a greater pace, then I dont think anyone here will have a problem. I think everyone here is only saying is that the way he is bowling now (and the way he got all those domestic wickets), he is unlikely to have a big impact at the international level.

I dont agree. Either i saw a different Bala bowling on his debut or you are talking about different guy. He was nothing but a 125 KMPH in swing bowler at that time. And how was this bouncer Kumar just bowled?
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #84 on: October 26, 2007, 02:03:42 PM »
Excellent bouncer.. hits Tewary on the head (he is learning a few tricks from his state mate ;) )

BTW, nice dive by Rohit to save himself from runout.
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #85 on: October 26, 2007, 02:04:46 PM »
Fabuloous 4 by Rohit. What a shot!!
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #86 on: October 26, 2007, 02:04:56 PM »
Vick, Balaji improved before he was successful at the international stage.

If Kumar can swing the ball like he does now at a greater pace, then I dont think anyone here will have a problem. I think everyone here is only saying is that the way he is bowling now (and the way he got all those domestic wickets), he is unlikely to have a big impact at the international level.

I dont agree. Either i saw a different Bala bowling on his debut or you are talking about different guy. He was nothing but a 125 KMPH in swing bowler at that time. And how was this bouncer Kumar just bowled?

Yes. And, on his debut, Balaji was hardly impressive. Did not see the bouncer.
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #87 on: October 26, 2007, 02:07:27 PM »
..and now Tewary steps out ..and breaks the shackles. Good 4
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #88 on: October 26, 2007, 02:09:41 PM »
Wow .. quality cricket here.. Great shot by Sharma and absolutely fantastic fielding by Virat!!! 4 saved
He is an awesome fielder.
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #89 on: October 26, 2007, 02:12:01 PM »
On the legs.. and fantastic 4 by Tiwary. This is good batting..
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #90 on: October 26, 2007, 02:18:23 PM »
Trivedi to Sharma, no run, short of a length, Rohit pulls on one leg - Caribbean style - but cant beat the infield as Karan Goel at midwicket flings himself to his right and stops it. Paresh Patel collects the ball off the rebound and throws to the strikers end

Sounds good, this!
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #91 on: October 26, 2007, 02:24:56 PM »
Trivedi to Sharma, no run, short of a length, Rohit pulls on one leg - Caribbean style - but cant beat the infield as Karan Goel at midwicket flings himself to his right and stops it. Paresh Patel collects the ball off the rebound and throws to the strikers end

Sounds good, this!
Tiwari just hit an awesome 4.

This is enjoyable cricket now.. DBV, Bhupinder are watching.. and VB chandra in the comm booth is urging them to have a vision for 2011 ;)

I think it will take time for these guys to get going in the international arena.. but no place better to start then at home .. I really hope these guys have the foresight to induct one of these kids into the ODIs against Pak.

The talent/ability is there!!
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #92 on: October 26, 2007, 02:27:02 PM »
I really hope these guys have the foresight to induct one of these kids into the ODIs against Pak.

Didn't you read DBV's interview??? No more rotation!
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #93 on: October 26, 2007, 02:29:28 PM »
I really hope these guys have the foresight to induct one of these kids into the ODIs against Pak.

Didn't you read DBV's interview??? No more rotation!
Yea, I did. What a f?????g a'hole .. I cant believe he said that. Such a regressive thing to say.
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #94 on: October 26, 2007, 02:30:19 PM »
Sharma goes.. pulls a shortish one straight to GG.
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #95 on: October 26, 2007, 02:31:10 PM »
Ishant bowling well.. mixing it up here.
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #96 on: October 26, 2007, 02:31:39 PM »
It was bound to happen .. trying to score 7 an over for 30 overs can wear down most batsmen
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #97 on: October 26, 2007, 02:34:14 PM »
BTW, Trivedi got that wicket.
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Agree.. let's see if Tiwari can stay long
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #98 on: October 26, 2007, 02:45:41 PM »
Chalo.. match over. The only q left is will Red get the bonus point.

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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #99 on: October 26, 2007, 02:47:58 PM »
This is where 20-20 scores over 50-50 ... however much one may berate the narrowing of the skills gap, we are likely to see very few no contests so early
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #100 on: October 26, 2007, 02:52:44 PM »
Chalo.. match over. The only q left is will Red get the bonus point.

there is a bonus pt  ???
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #101 on: October 26, 2007, 02:53:50 PM »
yes.. if green bowled under 241 ..red get a bonus point and green get a -1 for conceding the bonus pt
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #102 on: October 26, 2007, 02:55:54 PM »
Bonus Pt is quite stupid with teams playing each other just once.
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #103 on: October 26, 2007, 02:57:30 PM »
This is where 20-20 scores over 50-50 ... however much one may berate the narrowing of the skills gap, we are likely to see very few no contests so early


Remember this game?

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/twenty20wc/engine/match/287874.html

It was no contest quite early in the game.
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #104 on: October 26, 2007, 02:59:40 PM »
im interested in tiwarys batting .... i have lot of hopes from him
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #105 on: October 26, 2007, 03:00:34 PM »
This is where 20-20 scores over 50-50 ... however much one may berate the narrowing of the skills gap, we are likely to see very few no contests so early


Remember this game?

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/twenty20wc/engine/match/287874.html

It was no contest quite early in the game.


how many such games will one find?
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #106 on: October 26, 2007, 03:09:00 PM »
This is where 20-20 scores over 50-50 ... however much one may berate the narrowing of the skills gap, we are likely to see very few no contests so early


Remember this game?

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/twenty20wc/engine/match/287874.html

It was no contest quite early in the game.


how many such games will one find?


How may i know? Its too early to form an opinion about it. Out of 20 odd games we had in 20-20 WC there were atleast few like this. Let the team mature in 20-20 and then we will see what happens.
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #107 on: October 26, 2007, 03:12:38 PM »
Now ..this Behera is totally useless.. clearly a quota candidate ;)
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #108 on: October 26, 2007, 03:14:44 PM »
Now ..this Behera is totally useless.. clearly a quota candidate ;)

Well he has decent numbers in domestic as All-Rounder.
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #109 on: October 26, 2007, 03:19:22 PM »
Can't that be said of a lot of "useless" players ?
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #110 on: October 26, 2007, 03:20:18 PM »
Now ..this Behera is totally useless.. clearly a quota candidate ;)

Well he has decent numbers in domestic as All-Rounder.

So, I guess someone forgot to tell this to PP ;)
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #111 on: October 26, 2007, 03:20:49 PM »
This is where 20-20 scores over 50-50 ... however much one may berate the narrowing of the skills gap, we are likely to see very few no contests so early


Remember this game?

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/twenty20wc/engine/match/287874.html

It was no contest quite early in the game.


how many such games will one find?


How may i know? Its too early to form an opinion about it. Out of 20 odd games we had in 20-20 WC there were atleast few like this. Let the team mature in 20-20 and then we will see what happens.


Barring minnow matches, in most of the games seen so far, the game could have changed any moment right up to the last few overs. I suspect that is how it will generally be.
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #112 on: October 26, 2007, 03:32:45 PM »
Poor Tiwari - he's scoring at run a ball, whereas his partners are scoring at 50 s/r !!!!
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #113 on: October 26, 2007, 03:34:39 PM »
Poor Tiwari - he's scoring at run a ball, whereas his partners are scoring at 50 s/r !!!!

again, getting him ready for the Indian cap ... practice opposite platformers ... kaif provided the same help to Gambhir earlier ... poor guy got out once the faster scorers came along
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #114 on: October 26, 2007, 03:40:22 PM »
This is where 20-20 scores over 50-50 ... however much one may berate the narrowing of the skills gap, we are likely to see very few no contests so early


Remember this game?

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/twenty20wc/engine/match/287874.html

It was no contest quite early in the game.


how many such games will one find?


How may i know? Its too early to form an opinion about it. Out of 20 odd games we had in 20-20 WC there were atleast few like this. Let the team mature in 20-20 and then we will see what happens.


Barring minnow matches, in most of the games seen so far, the game could have changed any moment right up to the last few overs. I suspect that is how it will generally be.


You are just playing God here. I am quite sure people said same thing about 50-50 when it was started. I gave you an example and the teams involved were the same which played 50-50 WC final. In 20-20 there is no time for team to recover. If you lose early wickets for whatever reason you may not be able to put on decent total. A lot of such games are going to happen when teams misread pitches and try to score too many.
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #115 on: October 26, 2007, 03:43:31 PM »
This is where 20-20 scores over 50-50 ... however much one may berate the narrowing of the skills gap, we are likely to see very few no contests so early


Remember this game?

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/twenty20wc/engine/match/287874.html

It was no contest quite early in the game.


how many such games will one find?


How may i know? Its too early to form an opinion about it. Out of 20 odd games we had in 20-20 WC there were atleast few like this. Let the team mature in 20-20 and then we will see what happens.


Barring minnow matches, in most of the games seen so far, the game could have changed any moment right up to the last few overs. I suspect that is how it will generally be.


You are just playing God here. I am quite sure people said same thing about 50-50 when it was started. I gave you an example and the teams involved were the same which played 50-50 WC final. In 20-20 there is no time for team to recover. If you lose early wickets for whatever reason you may not be able to put on decent total. A lot of such games are going to happen when teams misread pitches and try to score too many.


Well, I am just saying what I think is logical .. there will be fewer mismatches in 20-20.

Besides, even if there is a mismatch (with the game being decided in the first 5 overs), you dont have to go through a day to get it to its logical conclusion.
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #116 on: October 26, 2007, 03:44:18 PM »
Anyways, I'm convinced that P.Kumar does deserve a chance....
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #117 on: October 26, 2007, 03:59:56 PM »
Anyways, I'm convinced that P.Kumar does deserve a chance....

More A games first againest better oppositions. Make him part of top 5-6 seamers. Work on him. Play him against visiting teams. That will prepare him better. 
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #118 on: October 26, 2007, 04:01:11 PM »
Why is Kaif bowling? Captaincy has its privileges ;D
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Re: India Reds Vs Greens Match Thread
« Reply #119 on: October 26, 2007, 04:18:15 PM »
Anyways, I'm convinced that P.Kumar does deserve a chance....

More A games first againest better oppositions. Make him part of top 5-6 seamers. Work on him. Play him against visiting teams. That will prepare him better. 

He's quite young. If handled properly, he can easily gain 5-10 kph, without any change in action and losing his ability to swing, which makes him a potent weapon.
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