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[poondu]

Hope youngsters get a chance today..

 
 
 
 India squad
 MS Dhoni, S Badrinath, R Dravid, G Gambhir, SC Ganguly, Harbhajan Singh, KD Karthik, Z Khan, IK Pathan, RP Sharma, RP Singh, S Sreesanth, SR Tendulkar, RV Uthappa, Yuvraj Singh 
 
 
 Australia squad
 RT Ponting, AC Gilchrist, NW Bracken, SR Clark, MJ Clarke, BJ Haddin, ML Hayden, BW Hilfenhaus, BJ Hodge, GB Hogg, JR Hopes, MG Johnson, B Lee, A Symonds, AC Voges 
 

[justforkix]

SS in for RPS while ZK has been quite poor in this series !!!!! 

Haddin in for Hayden

Aussies win the toss and bat 1st 

[poondu]

So RS sits out again ?   

[poondu]

With RD in such poor form why not pick an extra batsman ?   

[dhruvdeepak]

bah nothing changes....

[dhruvdeepak]

RK is the most annoying creature to make it to tv!!!!!!!!!!!

[poondu]

RK is the most annoying creature to make it to tv!!!!!!!!!!!

Who is RK ?

[dhruvdeepak]

RK is the most annoying creature to make it to tv!!!!!!!!!!!

Who is RK ?

radhakrishnan srinivasan, the anchor on neosports.
and i take it back. his friend neha might pip him for the title. her regurgitation of possibly the stupidest stats ever gets to me worse than RK's annoying pronunciations

[dhruvdeepak]

hello, get on chat already people!

[justforkix]

Interesting - Puppy opening AND GONE !!!!!!!!!!!

[dhruvdeepak]

woohooooooooooooooo

[poondu]

Sree clocking 149

[kban1]

get on chat guys

[kban1]

Great job by MSD today

1) field placings - no slip for RP, bowl almost 1/3 of the innings with no thirdman or fineleg, especially with spinners turning the ball enough to take edges and with a short boundary and fast outfield.
2) On a turning wicket, take HS off right after a wicket has fallen and have YS (15 runs in 1 over), pacers and SRT bowl -- allow the bats to set in and get their eye in
3) Bring HS back after Symmo is set and batsmen are cutting loose

A team that could have been restricted to 290 was allowed to score 316 due to the mindless changes; despite playing 5 bowlers we bolwed 7, of whom Yuvi gave 15 runs in 1 over.

WHile batting
4) Send IKP instead of RU at 140/1 in 25 overs
5) Then send RD in
6) Then send YS in
7) Finally send RU in when asking rate is past 10.

Ultimate margin of defeat = 18 runs.

Classic example of how to snatch defeat from victory 

Special note of thanks:

A) Umpires -- for letting Ponting get away with a plumb lbw early on, and not calling at least 6 definite wides when India were batting.
B) Sreesanth --  dropping Symonds when Symmonds was on 2. Symmonds scores 107 off 86.

[OldPal]

spoiled sunday..
need something to cheer up ...probably sleep

[dhruvdeepak]

Great job by MSD today

1) field placings - no slip for RP, bowl almost 1/3 of the innings with no thirdman or fineleg, especially with spinners turning the ball enough to take edges and with a short boundary and fast outfield.
2) On a turning wicket, take HS off right after a wicket has fallen and have YS (15 runs in 1 over), pacers and SRT bowl -- allow the bats to set in and get their eye in
3) Bring HS back after Symmo is set and batsmen are cutting loose

A team that could have been restricted to 290 was allowed to score 316 due to the mindless changes; despite playing 5 bowlers we bolwed 7, of whom Yuvi gave 15 runs in 1 over.

WHile batting
4) Send IKP instead of RU at 140/1 in 25 overs
5) Then send RD in
6) Then send YS in
7) Finally send RU in when asking rate is past 10.

Ultimate margin of defeat = 18 runs.

Classic example of how to snatch defeat from victory 

Special note of thanks:

A) Umpires -- for letting Ponting get away with a plumb lbw early on, and not calling at least 6 definite wides when India were batting.
B) Sreesanth --  dropping Symonds when Symmonds was on 2. Symmonds scores 107 off 86.

sounds about right. dhoni captained like a bloody fool, and the umpires help him on his way

[justforkix]

yes. we did all that we possibly can to not win the game

[feverpitch]

Great job by MSD today

1) field placings - no slip for RP, bowl almost 1/3 of the innings with no thirdman or fineleg, especially with spinners turning the ball enough to take edges and with a short boundary and fast outfield.
2) On a turning wicket, take HS off right after a wicket has fallen and have YS (15 runs in 1 over), pacers and SRT bowl -- allow the bats to set in and get their eye in
3) Bring HS back after Symmo is set and batsmen are cutting loose

A team that could have been restricted to 290 was allowed to score 316 due to the mindless changes; despite playing 5 bowlers we bolwed 7, of whom Yuvi gave 15 runs in 1 over.

WHile batting
4) Send IKP instead of RU at 140/1 in 25 overs
5) Then send RD in
6) Then send YS in
7) Finally send RU in when asking rate is past 10.

Ultimate margin of defeat = 18 runs.

Classic example of how to snatch defeat from victory 

Special note of thanks:

A) Umpires -- for letting Ponting get away with a plumb lbw early on, and not calling at least 6 definite wides when India were batting.
B) Sreesanth --  dropping Symonds when Symmonds was on 2. Symmonds scores 107 off 86.

you forgot the two catches dropped by the quinine-in-mouth former captain, those of Gilly and Punter, bfr when they were both below 10.

[justforkix]

Dravid dropped one of Ponting ?!?

[dextrous]

yes. we did all that we possibly can to not win the game

ponting did throw clark our way..and held johnson back...i dont think any team wanted to win this game 

[RicePlateReddy]

sounds about right. dhoni captained like a bloody fool, and the umpires help him on his way

We should reserve judgement on his captaincy until he has captained at least 20 ODIs. We were hasty to shower him with accolades post 20/20, especially when some ultra risky moves -- like bowling Joginder against Misbah -- happened to pay off. Luck doesn't last for long, so let us see where he stands in due course.

Basically, the team composition has hardly changed since the WC drubbing. How can we climb out of the rut - just by swapping the captain and hoping our 20/20 success leads to new results? I wonder who we would be playing if the 20/20 episode did not pan out as well. IMO, we have not budged from the WC debacle.

[broadbat]

                        Nailed in Nagpur

Anyone who has suffered a bereavement of a close family member or friend will understand that the full import of the loss is not on the actual day of the death. There is so much happening on that day, with all the well wishers around and funeral arrangements to be done, that the true extent of the loss will be felt either the next day or a couple of days after that.
 Now that the dust has settled in Nagpur, fans will realize that the trophy which by some quirk is called the Future Cup has been claimed by the Aussies without India being any wiser about the team of the future than they were about it in the past.
It was a game that held out immense possibilities but Dravid who I felt should not even have been playing, flooring  Gilchrist and Sreesanth dropping , would you believe, Symond’s, made one feel that even the God’s were angry. How dearly you pay for your sins were amplified in varying measure by both the Aussie batsmen.
Playing 5 frontline bowlers but still having to rely on Yuvraj and Tendulkar to turn their arm over is stretching your resources without any commensurate return.
The target of 318 while stiff by any standard was still not impossible, taking into factor the slowness of the wicket, small size of the ground and the fast outfield.
Yet another century stand from Tendulkar and Ganguly, though not express, ensured that we were in touch. Tendulkar getting out when he seemed well set is another facet of his game that the public are getting used to. That the run rate was not as per team requirements was made amply clear with Pathan coming in at 3. With a license to slog he had a run a ball innings that however could not compensate the drag that Ganguly was having on the run rate, but still meant that the asking rate which was 7.12 when Tendulkar departed had gone up to only 7.5.
The next phase is I think when the chase went awry. Dravid coming in when he had no business to, followed by the failure of Yuvraj for whom a cross batted slog to a near full toss from Hogg seemed the best way forward. Dravid if he wants to clear the ground should look for a heavier piece of wood than the one he currently uses. He is sorely found lacking when the wicket is slow and the batsman has to generate all the power.  The run rate was climbing with every over and Symonds being allowed to bowl like pro in Indian conditions by batsmen supposedly brought up on a diet of such bowling, pretty much summed up the situation.
Uthappa’s assault on the bowling towards the end made a mockery of the effort by the middle order and though it looked like the flailing of a drowning man, it ensured that the margin of defeat was reduced.
Players go about their way of consolidating their positions in the side but the team continues to suffer. As the phrase goes, ‘The more things change the more they remain the same’. Describes Team India as it stands today.
If I sound morose it is because I am.

[Shukla]

                        Nailed in Nagpur

Anyone who has suffered a bereavement of a close family member or friend will understand that the full import of the loss is not on the actual day of the death. There is so much happening on that day, with all the well wishers around and funeral arrangements to be done, that the true extent of the loss will be felt either the next day or a couple of days after that.
 Now that the dust has settled in Nagpur, fans will realize that the trophy which by some quirk is called the Future Cup has been claimed by the Aussies without India being any wiser about the team of the future than they were about it in the past.
It was a game that held out immense possibilities but Dravid who I felt should not even have been playing, flooring  Gilchrist and Sreesanth dropping , would you believe, Symond’s, made one feel that even the God’s were angry. How dearly you pay for your sins were amplified in varying measure by both the Aussie batsmen.
Playing 5 frontline bowlers but still having to rely on Yuvraj and Tendulkar to turn their arm over is stretching your resources without any commensurate return.
The target of 318 while stiff by any standard was still not impossible, taking into factor the slowness of the wicket, small size of the ground and the fast outfield.
Yet another century stand from Tendulkar and Ganguly, though not express, ensured that we were in touch. Tendulkar getting out when he seemed well set is another facet of his game that the public are getting used to. That the run rate was not as per team requirements was made amply clear with Pathan coming in at 3. With a license to slog he had a run a ball innings that however could not compensate the drag that Ganguly was having on the run rate, but still meant that the asking rate which was 7.12 when Tendulkar departed had gone up to only 7.5.
The next phase is I think when the chase went awry. Dravid coming in when he had no business to, followed by the failure of Yuvraj for whom a cross batted slog to a near full toss from Hogg seemed the best way forward. Dravid if he wants to clear the ground should look for a heavier piece of wood than the one he currently uses. He is sorely found lacking when the wicket is slow and the batsman has to generate all the power.  The run rate was climbing with every over and Symonds being allowed to bowl like pro in Indian conditions by batsmen supposedly brought up on a diet of such bowling, pretty much summed up the situation.
Uthappa’s assault on the bowling towards the end made a mockery of the effort by the middle order and though it looked like the flailing of a drowning man, it ensured that the margin of defeat was reduced.
Players go about their way of consolidating their positions in the side but the team continues to suffer. As the phrase goes, ‘The more things change the more they remain the same’. Describes Team India as it stands today.
If I sound morose it is because I am.

well said.

[LosingNow]

Broadbat.. awesome stuff!!!

BTW ,  ‘The more things change the more they remain the same’...should in the context of this series be re-phrased 'the more things don't change the more they remain the same'

[WicketView]

                        Nailed in Nagpur

Anyone who has suffered a bereavement of a close family member or friend will understand that the full import of the loss is not on the actual day of the death. There is so much happening on that day, with all the well wishers around and funeral arrangements to be done, that the true extent of the loss will be felt either the next day or a couple of days after that.
 Now that the dust has settled in Nagpur, fans will realize that the trophy which by some quirk is called the Future Cup has been claimed by the Aussies without India being any wiser about the team of the future than they were about it in the past.
It was a game that held out immense possibilities but Dravid who I felt should not even have been playing, flooring  Gilchrist and Sreesanth dropping , would you believe, Symond’s, made one feel that even the God’s were angry. How dearly you pay for your sins were amplified in varying measure by both the Aussie batsmen.
Playing 5 frontline bowlers but still having to rely on Yuvraj and Tendulkar to turn their arm over is stretching your resources without any commensurate return.
The target of 318 while stiff by any standard was still not impossible, taking into factor the slowness of the wicket, small size of the ground and the fast outfield.
Yet another century stand from Tendulkar and Ganguly, though not express, ensured that we were in touch. Tendulkar getting out when he seemed well set is another facet of his game that the public are getting used to. That the run rate was not as per team requirements was made amply clear with Pathan coming in at 3. With a license to slog he had a run a ball innings that however could not compensate the drag that Ganguly was having on the run rate, but still meant that the asking rate which was 7.12 when Tendulkar departed had gone up to only 7.5.
The next phase is I think when the chase went awry. Dravid coming in when he had no business to, followed by the failure of Yuvraj for whom a cross batted slog to a near full toss from Hogg seemed the best way forward. Dravid if he wants to clear the ground should look for a heavier piece of wood than the one he currently uses. He is sorely found lacking when the wicket is slow and the batsman has to generate all the power.  The run rate was climbing with every over and Symonds being allowed to bowl like pro in Indian conditions by batsmen supposedly brought up on a diet of such bowling, pretty much summed up the situation.
Uthappa’s assault on the bowling towards the end made a mockery of the effort by the middle order and though it looked like the flailing of a drowning man, it ensured that the margin of defeat was reduced.
Players go about their way of consolidating their positions in the side but the team continues to suffer. As the phrase goes, ‘The more things change the more they remain the same’. Describes Team India as it stands today.
If I sound morose it is because I am.

well said.

Broadbat.. awesome stuff!!!

BTW ,  ‘The more things change the more they remain the same’...should in the context of this series be re-phrased 'the more things don't change the more they remain the same'

Yet again, BB comes up with a fitting title !!! Looking forward to seeing more of them.

WN, In that case I guess the obvious is best left unsaid.

[LosingNow]

WN, In that case I guess the obvious is best left unsaid.

LOL.. but how could bb miss the obvious?

[WicketView]

WN, In that case I guess the obvious is best left unsaid.

LOL.. but how could bb miss the obvious?

I don't think he missed it.

[LosingNow]

Next up.. "Maimed in Mumbai" or "Mastery in Mumbai"

[Libran]

"Maharathis Rock Mumbai" will be a title that can shut up a few mouths for good.....and send them packing yet again

[justforkix]

I would Murdered in Mumbai may be more apt

[justforkix]

Ponting: We usually play our best batsman at #3. Perhaps, Pathan is their best batsman

 

[OldPal]

                        Nailed in Nagpur

Anyone who has suffered a bereavement of a close family member or friend will understand that the full import of the loss is not on the actual day of the death. There is so much happening on that day, with all the well wishers around and funeral arrangements to be done, that the true extent of the loss will be felt either the next day or a couple of days after that.
 Now that the dust has settled in Nagpur, fans will realize that the trophy which by some quirk is called the Future Cup has been claimed by the Aussies without India being any wiser about the team of the future than they were about it in the past.
It was a game that held out immense possibilities but Dravid who I felt should not even have been playing, flooring  Gilchrist and Sreesanth dropping , would you believe, Symond’s, made one feel that even the God’s were angry. How dearly you pay for your sins were amplified in varying measure by both the Aussie batsmen.
Playing 5 frontline bowlers but still having to rely on Yuvraj and Tendulkar to turn their arm over is stretching your resources without any commensurate return.
The target of 318 while stiff by any standard was still not impossible, taking into factor the slowness of the wicket, small size of the ground and the fast outfield.
Yet another century stand from Tendulkar and Ganguly, though not express, ensured that we were in touch. Tendulkar getting out when he seemed well set is another facet of his game that the public are getting used to. That the run rate was not as per team requirements was made amply clear with Pathan coming in at 3. With a license to slog he had a run a ball innings that however could not compensate the drag that Ganguly was having on the run rate, but still meant that the asking rate which was 7.12 when Tendulkar departed had gone up to only 7.5.
The next phase is I think when the chase went awry. Dravid coming in when he had no business to, followed by the failure of Yuvraj for whom a cross batted slog to a near full toss from Hogg seemed the best way forward. Dravid if he wants to clear the ground should look for a heavier piece of wood than the one he currently uses. He is sorely found lacking when the wicket is slow and the batsman has to generate all the power.  The run rate was climbing with every over and Symonds being allowed to bowl like pro in Indian conditions by batsmen supposedly brought up on a diet of such bowling, pretty much summed up the situation.
Uthappa’s assault on the bowling towards the end made a mockery of the effort by the middle order and though it looked like the flailing of a drowning man, it ensured that the margin of defeat was reduced.
Players go about their way of consolidating their positions in the side but the team continues to suffer. As the phrase goes, ‘The more things change the more they remain the same’. Describes Team India as it stands today.
If I sound morose it is because I am.

Excellent !!!!

[broadbat]

Ponting: We usually play our best batsman at #3. Perhaps, Pathan is their best batsman

 

This has to be considered seriously and here is how I see it,
1. Ponting is their best batsman
2. If our best batsman is who everyone thinks it is, well he should not even have been playing.
3. If not, Tendulkar was already out and hence rules would not allow him to come in and bat again.
4. If the third alternative, then he was already at the wicket.
5. Now if he meant that Uthappa was our best batsman, I reserve my comments.

[WicketView]

On the back of recent times, I would think it is Yuvi.

Now, I personally don't like the concept of a pinch hitter, because I feel that 9 out of 10 times it does not work. Like, I don't think it worked too well in the match, even though it did not fall flat on its face. But Dhoni did have good reasons to try it.

[justforkix]

Ponting: We usually play our best batsman at #3. Perhaps, Pathan is their best batsman

 

This has to be considered seriously and here is how I see it,
1. Ponting is their best batsman
2. If our best batsman is who everyone thinks it is, well he should not even have been playing.
3. If not, Tendulkar was already out and hence rules would not allow him to come in and bat again.
4. If the third alternative, then he was already at the wicket.
5. Now if he meant that Uthappa was our best batsman, I reserve my comments.

IMO, the comment was more tongue in cheek, trying to rub it in 

Not sure why there have been no reports on this press conference - he questioned SG's role, sending in out of form RD, Yuvi's ability to play spin, MSD's inability to finish, sending in IP at 3. Basically he questioned everyone except SRT and RU

[WicketView]

Ponting: We usually play our best batsman at #3. Perhaps, Pathan is their best batsman

 

This has to be considered seriously and here is how I see it,
1. Ponting is their best batsman
2. If our best batsman is who everyone thinks it is, well he should not even have been playing.
3. If not, Tendulkar was already out and hence rules would not allow him to come in and bat again.
4. If the third alternative, then he was already at the wicket.
5. Now if he meant that Uthappa was our best batsman, I reserve my comments.

IMO, the comment was more tongue in cheek, trying to rub it in 

Not sure why there have been no reports on this press conference - he questioned SG's role, sending in out of form RD, Yuvi's ability to play spin, MSD's inability to finish, sending in IP at 3. Basically he questioned everyone except SRT and RU

He would have tried to question those too ... but those two roles almost defeated him!

[keep-it-cool]

Ponting: We usually play our best batsman at #3. Perhaps, Pathan is their best batsman

 

This has to be considered seriously and here is how I see it,
1. Ponting is their best batsman
2. If our best batsman is who everyone thinks it is, well he should not even have been playing.
3. If not, Tendulkar was already out and hence rules would not allow him to come in and bat again.
4. If the third alternative, then he was already at the wicket.
5. Now if he meant that Uthappa was our best batsman, I reserve my comments.

IMO, the comment was more tongue in cheek, trying to rub it in 

Not sure why there have been no reports on this press conference - he questioned SG's role, sending in out of form RD, Yuvi's ability to play spin, MSD's inability to finish, sending in IP at 3. Basically he questioned everyone except SRT and RU

I never knew that Ponting could come up with such good tongue in cheek stuff ... he ribbed SRT too earlier about not having to field in half of his matches.

What did he have to say about SG's role?

[ganavk]

Ponting: We usually play our best batsman at #3. Perhaps, Pathan is their best batsman

 

This has to be considered seriously and here is how I see it,
1. Ponting is their best batsman
2. If our best batsman is who everyone thinks it is, well he should not even have been playing.
3. If not, Tendulkar was already out and hence rules would not allow him to come in and bat again.
4. If the third alternative, then he was already at the wicket.
5. Now if he meant that Uthappa was our best batsman, I reserve my comments.

IMO, the comment was more tongue in cheek, trying to rub it in 

Not sure why there have been no reports on this press conference - he questioned SG's role, sending in out of form RD, Yuvi's ability to play spin, MSD's inability to finish, sending in IP at 3. Basically he questioned everyone except SRT and RU

I never knew that Ponting could come up with such good tongue in cheek stuff ... he ribbed SRT too earlier about not having to field in half of his matches.

What did he have to say about SG's role?

Well..in Nagpur , I clearly remember an incident where SG refused the second run for RD's ( imagine that!) call for second run and someone was laughing loudly at the background and with some comments thrown in. Caught in stump microphone!

[broadbat]

Yeah I remember, but I thought it was somewhere behind in the commentry box.

[keep-it-cool]

I think JFK was talking about Ponting's press conference