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[Vick]

Former India coach Greg Chappell has praised Mahendra Singh Dhoni's captaincy and said the Indian team is shaping up well under him. Chappell quit as coach after the World Cup earlier this year, ending a two-year tenure with the team.

Though his stint was mired in controversy, Dhoni was one of the successes and Chappell said he had seen a lot of potential in him. Dhoni led an inexperienced team to victory in the ICC World Twenty20 in South Africa, his debut series as captain.

"I had foreseen a great future for Dhoni," Chappell told PTI. "He has proved his potential and has been most impressive as a leader. The Indians are lucky to have a leader like him."

Chappell, currently in India as a consultant for the Future Cricket Academy of the Rajasthan Cricket Association, based in Jaipur, acknowledged India's recent success.

"The Indian team is now doing well," he said. "When I was the coach, whatever I did stood them in good stead. It is up to the others to judge. They have a few exciting players and have already won the ICC World Twenty20.

"The good thing about Indian cricket is that it has a varied environment in which players are groomed differently. The players, like those from far-flung areas, are an example of that."

The current one-day series between India and Australia, Chappell said, would be a close contest, despite a few senior Australian players retiring from the game in recent months.

"The Australian team is in a transition phase. There is no [Glenn] McGrath or Shane Warne. But they are well prepared for the series. They have been working hard and they have to keep intact their supremacy. I believe it will be a hard fought series."

His work at the academy, Chappell said, would not necessarily replicate training methods used at the Centre of Excellence in Brisbane. He inaugurated the academy with Ian Frazer, the bio-mechanics expert who also assisted him when Chappell was with the Indian team.

"It is not right to compare it to Centre of Excellence because that has been running for years now. People like Allan Border [the former Australian captain] work and evolve new techniques for the trainees there. But I assure you that it will be different. We wish to make it one of the most reputed training centres of the world."

Twenty20's growing popularity, Chappell felt, would be a challenge for coaches in adapting to different forms of the game. He did not, though, believe it would ruin a batsman's technique. "There is no question of spoiling the technique. It has brought about a few changes which 50-over cricket too brought along. Now players use heavy bats, footwork is changing and they are hitting much harder than in my day."

[cricinfo]

arrre yeh to kuchh bhi nehi...wait till he says India won 20/20 because the way he coached

[LosingNow]

arrre yeh to kuchh bhi nehi...wait till he says India won 20/20 because the way he coached

You mean just like SG before the Brisbane knock

[Jai]

Is he getting confused between KKD and MSD? I thought he had identified KKD as the ideal candidate for captaincy. Any comment on YS sir? What a guy !! The moment a player tastes a certain level of success, apna GC is ready with quotes how he was the one who saw the sparks first or how it's because of him, so and so has made a successful comeback. Although I get pissed off with SG sometime for backing GC as India's coach once upon a time, but at least he can be pardoned because how could he have possibly visualized what followed next? But what about Lalit Modi? Reminds me of the Sardar joke when Banta Singh placed his bet again during the highlight of the match. 

[Cover Point]

Kudos to GC for identifying the talent in MSD.

Double kudos for him for identifying the potential in a young team. Even though his hand got forced for the ODI WC but he was vindicated when the young team won the 20 20 WC.

Kudos Guru Greg

[kban1]

Is he getting confused between KKD and MSD? I thought he had identified KKD as the ideal candidate for captaincy. Any comment on YS sir? What a guy !! The moment a player tastes a certain level of success, apna GC is ready with quotes how he was the one who saw the sparks first or how it's because of him, so and so has made a successful comeback. Although I get pissed off with SG sometime for backing GC as India's coach once upon a time, but at least he can be pardoned because how could he have possibly visualized what followed next? But what about Lalit Modi? Reminds me of the Sardar joke when Banta Singh placed his bet again during the highlight of the match

Jai, exactly -- the fact of the matter is that none of the following were the Guru's finds. In some cases, the guru did well in advancing the cause of the players but it is not correct to say that he identified the potential or that it was his find.

MSD - identified by Sourav Ganguly

KKD - identified under previous selectors and played under SG/JW. Guru only alluded to his leadership potential in SA

IKP - identified by previous selectors. Batting potential identified and development started under JW / SG. His natural progression into a batsman continued under Guru Greg.


On the other hand, credit should be given to the guru for identifying

SS

Raina (although he did persist with Raina way too long, way past what was required)

RU (not sure if it was the selectors or the guru, but he was definitely played under the guru)

[Cover Point]

Is he getting confused between KKD and MSD? I thought he had identified KKD as the ideal candidate for captaincy. Any comment on YS sir? What a guy !! The moment a player tastes a certain level of success, apna GC is ready with quotes how he was the one who saw the sparks first or how it's because of him, so and so has made a successful comeback. Although I get pissed off with SG sometime for backing GC as India's coach once upon a time, but at least he can be pardoned because how could he have possibly visualized what followed next? But what about Lalit Modi? Reminds me of the Sardar joke when Banta Singh placed his bet again during the highlight of the match

Jai, exactly -- the fact of the matter is that none of the following were the Guru's finds. In some cases, the guru did well in advancing the cause of the players but it is not correct to say that he identified the potential or that it was his find.

MSD - identified by Sourav Ganguly

KKD - identified under previous selectors and played under SG/JW. Guru only alluded to his leadership potential in SA

IKP - identified by previous selectors. Batting potential identified and development started under JW / SG. His natural progression into a batsman continued under Guru Greg.


On the other hand, credit should be given to the guru for identifying

SS

Raina (although he did persist with Raina way too long, way past what was required)

RU (not sure if it was the selectors or the guru, but he was definitely played under the guru)

Perfect. Anything that goes wrong in his watch ... is his fault.

Anything that goes right in his watch .... we will find someone else to give credit to. Hard as we may have to try

[RicePlateReddy]

His work at the academy, Chappell said, would not necessarily replicate training methods used at the Centre of Excellence in Brisbane.

Did Chappell use his special training methods in the Center of Excellence?

In that case, no Escher, Negroponte and Isaac Newton for our rural boyz.  Rural lad Munaf Patel appeared distraught in his recent interview. He needs a dose of Escher followed by a spiel on the virtues of a $100 laptop from Negroponte.  He will be so enraged that he will regain the intensity. And Guru can take credit for that comeback.

Actually, I am beginning to believe in Guru's methods. Put a video of Negroponte ramble on in front of anyone with an IQ before batting and he will go out on the cricket field determined to kill someone with his bat. Teach Newton's laws of motion to a muezzin's son and he will be furious and destroy everyone in sight. Guru Greg. He rocks.

[Vick]

Is he getting confused between KKD and MSD? I thought he had identified KKD as the ideal candidate for captaincy. Any comment on YS sir? What a guy !! The moment a player tastes a certain level of success, apna GC is ready with quotes how he was the one who saw the sparks first or how it's because of him, so and so has made a successful comeback. Although I get pissed off with SG sometime for backing GC as India's coach once upon a time, but at least he can be pardoned because how could he have possibly visualized what followed next? But what about Lalit Modi? Reminds me of the Sardar joke when Banta Singh placed his bet again during the highlight of the match

Jai, exactly -- the fact of the matter is that none of the following were the Guru's finds. In some cases, the guru did well in advancing the cause of the players but it is not correct to say that he identified the potential or that it was his find.

MSD - identified by Sourav Ganguly

KKD - identified under previous selectors and played under SG/JW. Guru only alluded to his leadership potential in SA

IKP - identified by previous selectors. Batting potential identified and development started under JW / SG. His natural progression into a batsman continued under Guru Greg.


On the other hand, credit should be given to the guru for identifying

SS

Raina (although he did persist with Raina way too long, way past what was required)

RU (not sure if it was the selectors or the guru, but he was definitely played under the guru)

I dont think so. MSD came through the ranks. He scored heavily on A tour. SG was struck with Parthiv for way too long.  I guess either he never played with MSD or wasnt convinced of his abilities other wise MSD would have been in the team atleast a year or so earlier.

[kban1]

I dont think so. MSD came through the ranks. He scored heavily on A tour. SG was struck with Parthiv for way too long.  I guess either he never played with MSD or wasnt convinced of his abilities other wise MSD would have been in the team atleast a year or so earlier.

Yes MSD came through the ranks. But he probably would still have been overlooked or gotten a chance much later had it not been for SG.

There is actually a published story (also posted on this DG) whereby the reporter says SG called up this reporter and said

"watch this guy (MSD) playing, this is the guy I must have in my team as a wicketkeeper, I have been lokking for someone like this for years, I have to have him"

The reporter was unequivocal about who spotted him and who brought that to the attention of the selectors.

[WicketView]

I recall reading that too .... think that was a cricinfo article by Rahul Bhattchary.  However that is the only place where I have come across this.

[WicketView]

Is he getting confused between KKD and MSD? I thought he had identified KKD as the ideal candidate for captaincy. Any comment on YS sir? What a guy !! The moment a player tastes a certain level of success, apna GC is ready with quotes how he was the one who saw the sparks first or how it's because of him, so and so has made a successful comeback. Although I get pissed off with SG sometime for backing GC as India's coach once upon a time, but at least he can be pardoned because how could he have possibly visualized what followed next? But what about Lalit Modi? Reminds me of the Sardar joke when Banta Singh placed his bet again during the highlight of the match. 

Right, he mentioned KKD's (and Venu's I think) captaincy skills. Of course, great men don't tell you what they are thinking, do they?

[Vick]

I dont think so. MSD came through the ranks. He scored heavily on A tour. SG was struck with Parthiv for way too long.  I guess either he never played with MSD or wasnt convinced of his abilities other wise MSD would have been in the team atleast a year or so earlier.

Yes MSD came through the ranks. But he probably would still have been overlooked or gotten a chance much later had it not been for SG.

There is actually a published story (also posted on this DG) whereby the reporter says SG called up this reporter and said

"watch this guy (MSD) playing, this is the guy I must have in my team as a wicketkeeper, I have been lokking for someone like this for years, I have to have him"

The reporter was unequivocal about who spotted him and who brought that to the attention of the selectors.

Then i would say that he didnt look at all. MSD played for his own zone. And before he was selected for the A tour his List A avg was in mid 40's after i think 3-4 seasons. I remember posting about MSD on some forum and wondering why this guy isnt even picked to play challengers. And that was the time when we were desparate for a keeper batsman. MSD was picked based on his performance on A tour by selectors, lets give them the credit. BTW that series was telecasted on TV.
And after that he played every game as his last till that 143 as he said in a video interview i posted recently.

[kban1]

Vick:

Then i would say that he didnt look at all. MSD played for his own zone. And before he was selected for the A tour his List A avg was in mid 40's after i think 3-4 seasons. I remember posting about MSD on some forum and wondering why this guy isnt even picked to play challengers. And that was the time when we were desparate for a keeper batsman. MSD was picked based on his performance on A tour by selectors, lets give them the credit. BTW that series was telecasted on TV.
And after that he played every game as his last till that 143 as he said in a video interview i posted recently.

Not sure why you would say he did not look at all.

It sounds to me like (again based on the article --I have no other source of info) that SG saw him play and said to the reporter in question that this is the type of guy he needs and he would ask the selectors for it.

If memory serves me correctly, the article I think mentioned SG seeing him play on TV --this may well be the A series that SG watched too (I am extrapolating from the fact that the A series was televised as per your post).

Again, if we combine the 2 stories -the reporters and yours together, I believe it makes for a coherent story.

He was doing well in domestics. The A team selectors chose him for the series which was televised. SG saw him play, was impressed and pushed his case with the selectors, which got him his call up to the nationa side.

So obviously credit belongs to the A team selectors for identifying rewarding his performance by selecting him for the A tour and some credit to SG for pushing MSD's claims for the national squad spot (the reporter definitely seems to suggest that).

In any case, I didnt know about what you had mentioned. SO its good to have this background as well.

[inoc]

a quick look at the debutants during GCs rule

SR
Venugopal Rao
RPS
SS
MP
VRV
WJ

4 bowlers out of 7.
considering the fact that before him we had LB/AN both injured and ZK out of favour he needed them.

SR/VR lost for the time being and WJ transferred to the test side.

so zero batsmen and possibly two bowlers from his time.


a year prior to GC becoming coach

debutants

KKD
MSD
Joginder Sharma - played one match under GC.

GC claims KKD is understandable.
MSD was not only a player in the indian team a year before GC turned up he actually had a hundred at number three as well before GCs time. no claims to his success as far as i am concerned. verbal justification is ignored for this instance.

other than RPS/SS during his time and KKD later on GC can claim no other find whatever he says now or his apologists dream up hence.

i will not even start to compare this paltry figures with a JW.

KKD/RPS/SS for all that talk, in two f***ing years and he still opens his mouth. his followers do have infinite patience with him sadly lacking in everywhere else.

[Vick]

Vick:

Then i would say that he didnt look at all. MSD played for his own zone. And before he was selected for the A tour his List A avg was in mid 40's after i think 3-4 seasons. I remember posting about MSD on some forum and wondering why this guy isnt even picked to play challengers. And that was the time when we were desparate for a keeper batsman. MSD was picked based on his performance on A tour by selectors, lets give them the credit. BTW that series was telecasted on TV.
And after that he played every game as his last till that 143 as he said in a video interview i posted recently.

Not sure why you would say he did not look at all.

It sounds to me like (again based on the article --I have no other source of info) that SG saw him play and said to the reporter in question that this is the type of guy he needs and he would ask the selectors for it.

If memory serves me correctly, the article I think mentioned SG seeing him play on TV --this may well be the A series that SG watched too (I am extrapolating from the fact that the A series was televised as per your post).

Again, if we combine the 2 stories -the reporters and yours together, I believe it makes for a coherent story.

He was doing well in domestics. The A team selectors chose him for the series which was televised. SG saw him play, was impressed and pushed his case with the selectors, which got him his call up to the nationa side.

So obviously credit belongs to the A team selectors for identifying rewarding his performance by selecting him for the A tour and some credit to SG for pushing MSD's claims for the national squad spot (the reporter definitely seems to suggest that).

In any case, I didnt know about what you had mentioned. SO its good to have this background as well.

Well i said he didnt look much because if he noticed MSD after watching him on TV, MSD has already proved himself. The only way after performing well on A tour was to be selected for team india. Specially when team India was looking for exactly someone like him since years. So i dont see, why there should be any credit given to SG for spotting MSD. Its not like that MSD saw him in one Domestic game and got him selected for Indian team.
If someone like me could see his utility atleast 6 months in advance to his selection to A tour selectors and SG(Specially when MSD belong to same zone as SG) should have done a better job. One look at that trade mark MSD shot and you know for sure that the guy needs to fast tracked to ODI/A team. Specially considering how desparate we were for a finisher/big hitter/WK who could come at #7 and tonk the ball.

[Vick]

Vick:

Then i would say that he didnt look at all. MSD played for his own zone. And before he was selected for the A tour his List A avg was in mid 40's after i think 3-4 seasons. I remember posting about MSD on some forum and wondering why this guy isnt even picked to play challengers. And that was the time when we were desparate for a keeper batsman. MSD was picked based on his performance on A tour by selectors, lets give them the credit. BTW that series was telecasted on TV.
And after that he played every game as his last till that 143 as he said in a video interview i posted recently.

Not sure why you would say he did not look at all.

It sounds to me like (again based on the article --I have no other source of info) that SG saw him play and said to the reporter in question that this is the type of guy he needs and he would ask the selectors for it.

If memory serves me correctly, the article I think mentioned SG seeing him play on TV --this may well be the A series that SG watched too (I am extrapolating from the fact that the A series was televised as per your post).

Again, if we combine the 2 stories -the reporters and yours together, I believe it makes for a coherent story.

He was doing well in domestics. The A team selectors chose him for the series which was televised. SG saw him play, was impressed and pushed his case with the selectors, which got him his call up to the nationa side.

So obviously credit belongs to the A team selectors for identifying rewarding his performance by selecting him for the A tour and some credit to SG for pushing MSD's claims for the national squad spot (the reporter definitely seems to suggest that).

In any case, I didnt know about what you had mentioned. SO its good to have this background as well.

That would mean that selectors were themselves not watching the games. Another thing is KKD was on that tour too and he got the chance in Indian team before MSD. So i dont think SG's recos worked well. IMO after mSD scored those two back to back hundreds against Pak-A it was only a matter of time before he would have been selected. If it wasnt for Sandip Patils reco for KKD, MSD would have played earlier.

[kban1]

Well i said he didnt look much because if he noticed MSD after watching him on TV, MSD has already proved himself. The only way after performing well on A tour was to be selected for team india. Specially when team India was looking for exactly someone like him since years. So i dont see, why there should be any credit given to SG for spotting MSD. Its not like that MSD saw him in one Domestic game and got him selected for Indian team.

ok, fair point --that if he saw him on TV, then he was already spotted by the A selectors.

I would still give SG credit for pushing his case for national selection once he saw him on tv (I believe that is what the reporter was alluding too) -- after all our cricket history is replete with instances of many a talent being lost after showing their face.

If someone like me could see his utility atleast 6 months in advance to his selection to A tour selectors and SG(Specially when MSD belong to same zone as SG) should have done a better job. One look at that trade mark MSD shot and you know for sure that the guy needs to fast tracked to ODI/A team. Specially considering how desparate we were for a finisher/big hitter/WK who could come at #7 and tonk the ball.

Well, you have a point there. But then again SG may not have had the same opportunities of seeing MSD play as you did, given commitments to the national team and given the difficulty of making judgments based on just pure averages since our domestic league is replete with instances of people with overinflated averages who tantamount to nothing.

So its quite possible that the A series was the first time SG was able to reconcile visual cognition with Dhoni's record. If based on that, he could fast track his inclusion in the team, then I see no reason not to give SG secondary credit for having backed MSD.

In either case, the credit for spotting MSD or developing him does not go to the Guru, which was the point of the original discussion.

[kban1]

That would mean that selectors were themselves not watching the games. Another thing is KKD was on that tour too and he got the chance in Indian team before MSD. So i dont think SG's recos worked well. IMO after mSD scored those two back to back hundreds against Pak-A it was only a matter of time before he would have been selected. If it wasnt for Sandip Patils reco for KKD, MSD would have played earlier.

I think you are overlooking the fact that many a talent at A level goes to waste before blooming - with or without selectors present

And the reason why KKD got an earlier look in is explained in your post as well -- the fact that he had patil's recommendation probably fast tracked him earlier into the squad, especially as test keeper.

Do remember though MSD and KKD were both in the ODI team prior to the Pak series -- MSD played as keeper in the ODI's in England prior to Pak, which tells us that SG's backing had to be present for MSD to be selected.

[Vick]

That would mean that selectors were themselves not watching the games. Another thing is KKD was on that tour too and he got the chance in Indian team before MSD. So i dont think SG's recos worked well. IMO after mSD scored those two back to back hundreds against Pak-A it was only a matter of time before he would have been selected. If it wasnt for Sandip Patils reco for KKD, MSD would have played earlier.

I think you are overlooking the fact that many a talent at A level goes to waste before blooming - with or without selectors present

And the reason why KKD got an earlier look in is explained in your post as well -- the fact that he had patil's recommendation probably fast tracked him earlier into the squad, especially as test keeper.

Do remember though MSD and KKD were both in the ODI team prior to the Pak series -- MSD played as keeper in the ODI's in England prior to Pak, which tells us that SG's backing had to be present for MSD to be selected.

Well i wouldnt say that a lot of telent goes waste after doing well on A tours. Selectors have been quite consistence with A team. Only time the telent goes waste when there really isnt much space in the main team. In case of MSD that wasnt the case, We needed a hitter/WK for ODI since quite sometime.
MSD played against BD not england before Pak series.

[Cover Point]

I dont think so. MSD came through the ranks. He scored heavily on A tour. SG was struck with Parthiv for way too long.  I guess either he never played with MSD or wasnt convinced of his abilities other wise MSD would have been in the team atleast a year or so earlier.

Yes MSD came through the ranks. But he probably would still have been overlooked or gotten a chance much later had it not been for SG.

There is actually a published story (also posted on this DG) whereby the reporter says SG called up this reporter and said

"watch this guy (MSD) playing, this is the guy I must have in my team as a wicketkeeper, I have been lokking for someone like this for years, I have to have him"

The reporter was unequivocal about who spotted him and who brought that to the attention of the selectors.

By the way did you know that I discovered Sachin Tendulkar. Once when SRT was a little boy I happened to see him play and called TWO of my friends .. Santa Singh and Banta Singh and told them "watch this guy playing, this is the guy I want in my team as a batsman. I have been looking for someone like this for years, I have to have him" Then I also added "buwahahaha".

[pipsqueak]

why do we care about what a two-bit coach of some non-descript team has to say? lalit modi has another spare porsche perhaps?

[inoc]

I dont think so. MSD came through the ranks. He scored heavily on A tour. SG was struck with Parthiv for way too long.  I guess either he never played with MSD or wasnt convinced of his abilities other wise MSD would have been in the team atleast a year or so earlier.

Yes MSD came through the ranks. But he probably would still have been overlooked or gotten a chance much later had it not been for SG.

There is actually a published story (also posted on this DG) whereby the reporter says SG called up this reporter and said

"watch this guy (MSD) playing, this is the guy I must have in my team as a wicketkeeper, I have been lokking for someone like this for years, I have to have him"

The reporter was unequivocal about who spotted him and who brought that to the attention of the selectors.

By the way did you know that I discovered Sachin Tendulkar. Once when SRT was a little boy I happened to see him play and called TWO of my friends .. Santa Singh and Banta Singh and told them "watch this guy playing, this is the guy I want in my team as a batsman. I have been looking for someone like this for years, I have to have him" Then I also added "buwahahaha".

this would have been an achievement if it was true but like all your pronouncements (which seem to me like this story) they are as fabricated as this tale.
maybe you actually believe this story in that case - sorry mate - excuse me.
santa and banta are part of folklore and now we are seriously considering another.
jab santa aur banta nah mile to CP se pooch le answer same hi hoyega.

[kban1]

Well i wouldnt say that a lot of telent goes waste after doing well on A tours. Selectors have been quite consistence with A team. Only time the telent goes waste when there really isnt much space in the main team. In case of MSD that wasnt the case, We needed a hitter/WK for ODI since quite sometime.

Well, this is a very recent phenomenon -- where the A team performances are monitored carefully. And even now the selection and representation is not always logical. So I have less confidence in the thought processes of A team selectors carrying over to the thought processes of national team selectors.

MSD played against BD not england before Pak series.

Right you are. I was confusing the fact that before MSD, we tried KKD in England for 2-3 ODI's and then when the next set of ODI's came by, MSD was selected as WK for the ODI's finally relieving Dravid of the wicketkeeping duties.

I think the bottomline is that whichever way we cut it --whether it is solely the credit of the A selectors or whether SG deserves some credit (as per the reporter's contention) -- the fact remains that the guru had zilch in terms of identifying MSD the wicketkeeper or the player.

[inoc]

claims so far

MSD - GC find and today GCs future captain

IKP - GC find and skillful use, to render him incapable of bowling and bringing him down to the fact that he was the only player in the history of cricket       to be sent back to his country on form grounds. bravo GC/RD

SG - his resurgence
ZK - his resurgence

claims on wait
RD - his excellent vision and his retirement
GG
RU
SR - when he scores another 50 aged 50
all those players who are remotely successful in the next few months who may have shaken GC's hand.

subject to change depending on GC pronouncements.

[kban1]

inoc:

you disappoint me

you forgot - in no particular order of preference

1) quinine
2) pasteurization
3) croissants
4) electricty
5) sliced bread
6) medical stints
7) Gravity
8 ) the wheel
9) fire
10) internal combustion engine
11) rocket propulsion
12) the pulley system

I am sure I missed a whole bunch but while we are at it, those can be included too 

[feverpitch]

I dont think so. MSD came through the ranks. He scored heavily on A tour. SG was struck with Parthiv for way too long.  I guess either he never played with MSD or wasnt convinced of his abilities other wise MSD would have been in the team atleast a year or so earlier.

Yes MSD came through the ranks. But he probably would still have been overlooked or gotten a chance much later had it not been for SG.

There is actually a published story (also posted on this DG) whereby the reporter says SG called up this reporter and said

"watch this guy (MSD) playing, this is the guy I must have in my team as a wicketkeeper, I have been lokking for someone like this for years, I have to have him"

The reporter was unequivocal about who spotted him and who brought that to the attention of the selectors.

check this months India Today... Sharda Ugra also quotes the same story as something she witnessed first hand!

[Blwe_torch]

inoc:

you disappoint me

you forgot - in no particular order of preference

1) quinine
2) pasteurization
3) croissants
4) electricty
5) sliced bread
6) medical stints
7) Gravity
8 ) the wheel
9) fire
10) internal combustion engine
11) rocket propulsion
12) the pulley system

I am sure I missed a whole bunch but while we are at it, those can be included too 

I have heard a rumour that multi-party democracy is also GC's brain-child. I actually wanted to nominate him for a Nobel prize...........which category, remains a confusion!

[Jai]

Let me make a prediction here. During his current stint with Rajasthan whatever team, he'll mention the rest of the players like YS, VS, HS, RPS, SS ZK, GG, RU etc. as captaincy materials in different interviews. If one of them becomes the captain, you know the rest of the story.

Rajasthan is such a nice place. Damn. I wish Modi was from Tripura.

[dave_dj]

inoc:

you disappoint me

you forgot - in no particular order of preference

1) quinine
2) pasteurization
3) croissants
4) electricty
5) sliced bread
6) medical stints
7) Gravity
8 ) the wheel
9) fire
10) internal combustion engine
11) rocket propulsion
12) the pulley system

I am sure I missed a whole bunch but while we are at it, those can be included too 

I have heard a rumour that multi-party democracy is also GC's brain-child. I actually wanted to nominate him for a Nobel prize...........which category, remains a confusion!

I hate to see that you forget to thank GC each morning for giving us freedom ending the British regime.  Thank you Greg.