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[OldPal]

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/indvaus/content/squad/311465.html
I  can confirm this is going to be a tough one for DG'ians ...
I would prefer some players who have played little bit in WCTT

PC not included as per JAI's note below ..

Mine is :

SRT
SG
GG
RU
RD
YS
MSD
IKP
HS
ZK
RPS

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RP
PC
SS
KKD

Million dollar Q?
What if MSD drops RD and takes RP and an alround option  .

[Jai]

Take out PC from your list. He has already been ruled out.

[justforkix]

"Genius" DBV announced that Rohit Sharma (batsman) replaces Piyush Chawla (bowler) for 2nd and 3rd ODI 

[justforkix]

GG
SRT
RU
YS
MSD
RD/SG (doesen't matter - toss-up)
IP
ZK
HS
RPS
SS

Sit out : KKD, RP, SG/RD. PC is already out, RS will join only for ODI2 and ODI3.

[OldPal]

GG
SRT
RU
YS
MSD
RD/SG (doesen't matter - toss-up)
IP
ZK
HS
RPS
SS

here comes the Braveheart ....  you got to chose one dear .. gone are the days of Toss up .. it is bowl out now .

[Vick]

SRT
GG
RU
YS
RD
MSD
IKP
HS
ZK
RP
SS

RPS missesd out because of too many leftys and SS's better showing against aussies. We should play two spinners in India special now when there are going to be 3 fielders out side the circle. Only one of RD and SG should play. And SRT needs to sit out for last 4 games.

[OldPal]

ODI rule modifications could get early start
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/indvaus/content/story/312533.html
Cricinfo staff

September 25, 2007

The modifications to one-day international rules, as proposed by the ICC in June 2007, could be implemented early if the Indian and Australian captains and respective boards agree. The rules are supposed to come into effect on October 1 but the seven-ODI series between India and Australia starts on September 29.

Earlier in June, the ICC had ruled the following changes in ODI playing conditions:


An additional fielder will be allowed outside the fielding circle during the second or third Powerplays.


If an ODI innings is reduced, the numbers of overs making up each of the three Powerplays shall be reduced proportionately.


If a bowler bowls a front foot no-ball in an ODI, the following delivery will be deemed a free hit and the batsman cannot be dismissed by the bowler from that delivery. He can only be run out.


There will be a mandatory change of the ball after 35 overs of each innings in an ODI; the replacement will be a clean used ball.

The ICC had also increased the stipulated minimum boundary sizes for all international matches.

If Mahendra Singh Dhoni and Ricky Ponting agree to follow the new rules from Saturday's first one-dayer itself, they will save themselves the trouble of adjusting mid-series. The matter will be sorted out at the match referee's meeting before the first ODI in Bangalore.

The ICC, on its part, would have no objections if the two teams want to give the new rules an early start. As an ICC official said, "It's something for the captains, coaches and respective boards to thrash out among themselves."

There is a precedent for this: the ICC had not objected when England and Australia gave the Powerplays and Supersubs an early debut in July 2005, while the rules' trial was officially slated to begin from August 2005.

© Cricinfo

[hastalavistababy]

Garbage Collector(s) waked up early and voted .Dumped  Specific Gravity Of  the team

[OldPal]

Here wakes up the pacific(timezone) ...
wher is the SG gang .. he seems to be missing out as of now ..
To be fair to him .. guys he can fill in partially for the fifth bowling spot and has been in the anchoring form ...

SRT  9 (9.5%)
GG  9 (9.5%)
RD  8 (8.4%)
RU  9 (9.5%)
YS  9 (9.5%)
MSD  9 (9.5%)

IKP  9 (9.5%)
HS  9 (9.5%)
ZK  9 (9.5%)
SS  7 (7.4%)
RPS  4 (4.2%)
==========================
SG  3 (3.2%)
RP  1 (1.1%)
KKD  0 (0%)
PC ruled out

I have no problems with the above team selected and can play it ..
This has 5 bowlers and seven batsmen
Can MSD ??

[Jai]

This ODI team was declared before the T20 WC even had started. So my guess is all the Maharathis will play in the first match and if one of them don't, there will be that 'injured' explanation. The Maharathis will be somehow accomodated in the first 3 ODIs and MSD will agree to the compromise formula. After that, we'll hear about the 'rotation' policy and one or more will be 'rested' (aka dropped). 

[gouravk]

SRT will play instead of VS, RD will probably play in place of RS. Whose place will SG take ? GG ? RU ?

[top cricketer]

I am picking the team that I want (and not what will inevitably happen)

Open with
SRT
GG

Middle order

RU
YS
RD (replace with RS when he is in the squad)

Allrounders
MSD
IKP

Bowlers
RP (better than HS in odi's)
RPS
ZK
SS

What will happen is that one of RU/GG will be benched in the favor of SG. Knowing our board it will be RU to sit out ... and will miss out on a real aggressive batsman in good form.

[OldPal]

it will come down playing 5 bowlers vs 4 bowlers ..
If we play 4 bowlers SG,RU,andGG all will play

If we  play 5 bowlers :
I feel GG will sit ... As SG and SRT will open .(They have done a good job so far)

sureshot IMO
SRT,SG,YS,RD,MSD
IKP,ZK,HS,RPS

+ 2 of 4  (GG,RU,SS,RP) If 4 bowlers play - SS may replace IKP. with IKP presence i somehow feel we will play 5 bowlers (IKP included) that confirms one of 3 missing from (SG,RU,GG)

The question I am asking to myself is why am i taking RD form granted, Isn't SG a better utility player in ODI as compared to RD, Bowling ,SR,Batting ,speacilist position all included .. If RD sits out GG and RU bot can play .. But first match against Aus .. that will be a dream..
it will however be interesting to see the team composition on saturday.

GG scored 24 and RU scored 34 (RO) with both seemed  in command .
Similary : IKP was the most costly bowler agianst Aus ...Thus with 4 bowler SS is confirmed over IKP.

  Bowling O M R W Econ 
  RP Singh 4 0 33 0 8.25 (1nb, 1w)
  S Sreesanth 4 1 12 2 3.00 
  IK Pathan 4 0 44 2 11.00 (1w)
  Harbhajan Singh 4 0 24 1 6.00 

[WicketView]

Can't find RS in the list?

Anyway, I don't see the point of voting for 11 players without knowing whether the pitch is a batting track (most probably), and whether it would be taking spin or not.

So,

people who make it to the squad regardless of these:

SRT, RD, RS, YS, 
MSD,
SS. RPS (if injured replace by ZK, close call)

HS / RP (personally I prefer HS, but the most important thing is the faith of the captain)

I think think the wicket would be a 280 -300 type wicket. So

RU , GG , IKP

If the wicket is not good for batting or could take swing bowling, I would certainly include SG for GG or RU  depending on the pace of the wicket. In that case I might be tempted to replace IKP by ZK too.

If the wicket is likely to take on spin, RP replaces IKP/ZK , SG comes in in place of RU.

These are my present thoughts, based on recent performance which should evolve with time. In fact, I would expect that the middle order will be changed soon (apart from SRT, RD retirement from ODI which will probably be coming soon too)

[top cricketer]

Pankaj, RD's SR has been much better than SG's in ODI's since SG's (supposedly successful) return. RD has, without even playing the PP's, been very good. To top that he has been one of our best finishers in recent times.

SG on the other hand has been the king of dot balls and has a SR of around 70 .... this when the par score in games has been around 280.

I dont believe todays Ganguly can be considered before RD. Not when we have many other opening alternatives (GG,RU).

RD needs to go BUT for RS when he comes into the squad from the second ODI. 

[LosingNow]

The following pick themselves..

RU, GG, YS, MSD, IKP, HS, RPS, ZK, SS... Bowlers are done.  Now we have to pick 2 out of 4 batsman left.. SRT, RD, SG, KKD.

My choice for 1st ODI.. SRT, KKD. Rotate the 3 Maharathis, if need be. From 2nd ODI RS comes in.

Batting order
GG
SRT
RU
YS
KKD
MSD
IKP
HS
ZK
RPS
SS
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After 2 ODIs we will have to rest YS, MSD, RPS, SS. Too much workload.

[Aloo Kashmiri Ul Haq]

and we are playing 4 seamers because? 
Bhajji and RP should play, my XI

SRT
GG
YS
RD
SG
MSD
IKP
RP
HS
ZK
RPS

[LosingNow]

and we are playing 4 seamers because? 
Bhajji and RP should play, my XI

SRT
GG
YS
RD
SG
MSD
IKP
RP
HS
ZK
RPS

All three pacers ...left armers .. nice!!

[pipsqueak]

what are the chances of this ODI happening? forecast says rain?

[Libran]

It has been nice, bright and sunny for the last few days.. a little bit of rain last evening..but nothing game shattering....

Will be cloudy and need  to tell us which way the ball will swing later in the evening on 29th 

[Libran]

My team

SRT
SG
GG
YS
RD
MSD
IP
ZK
RPS
SS
HS

[pipsqueak]

my team

a team without SG/RD/SRT for the first 4 ODIs.

[broadbat]

SRT
SG
RU(Home Ground hence nod over GG)
YS
RD
MSD
IKP
HS
ZK
SS
RPS

[feverpitch]

my team

a team without SG/RD/SRT for the first 4 ODIs.

... bring it down to 3, Pip... give the 'patriotic fans' some respite... they after all would want their team to give one fight before going down 4-0 in the series!

[Jai]

I think Aloo Haq has got a good point. Without knowing anything at all about the pitch, why should we go with 4 fast bowlers? I'd seriously think about playing RP in place of SS. I'll also like to see Ojha getting a few games in the next 12 ODIs.

[Libran]

It could be the same pitch that was used for the Afro Asian match and that was a high scoring match 317 followed by 283 ... and Asif and ZK took 5 wickets between them...with Jayasuriya chipping in with 3...So, yes, it may be better to go with 2 pacers and 2 spinners and set a target

[Vick]

RP should play before HS. HS still came at 5/6 th place among spinners in T20 behind even Saqib Ul Hasan. We need attacking spinner. Also Aussies prolly gavent seen much of RP and they will better prepared for HS.

[pipsqueak]

my team

a team without SG/RD/SRT for the first 4 ODIs.

... bring it down to 3, Pip... give the 'patriotic fans' some respite... they after all would want their team to give one fight before going down 4-0 in the series!

actually, i have changed it to 7. all 7 ODIs with just the yengsters.

[justforkix]

I think Aloo Haq has got a good point. Without knowing anything at all about the pitch, why should we go with 4 fast bowlers? I'd seriously think about playing RP in place of SS. I'll also like to see Ojha getting a few games in the next 12 ODIs.

Early reports from both camps (Ind and Aus) indicate that pitch has lot of pace, bounce, and carry.

[justforkix]

GG
SRT
RU
YS
MSD
RD/SG (doesen't matter - toss-up)
IP
ZK
HS
RPS
SS

here comes the Braveheart ....  you got to chose one dear .. gone are the days of Toss up .. it is bowl out now .

OK. I tossed a coin and RD it is for 1st ODI. SG and KKD for 2nd ODI in place of RD and SRT.

[Libran]

GG
SRT
RU
YS
MSD
RD/SG (doesen't matter - toss-up)
IP
ZK
HS
RPS
SS

here comes the Braveheart ....  you got to chose one dear .. gone are the days of Toss up .. it is bowl out now .

OK. I tossed a coin and RD it is for 1st ODI. SG and KKD for 2nd ODI in place of RD and SRT.

kote sikkay 

[OldPal]

I think the DG'ians have been very clear in its selection:
7 bat(inc IKP) + 5 bowl(4+1)

Bangalore pitch has traditionally been batting track, unless there is a surprise. We have 5 bowlers either way ...
MSD should have his job easy now.

Total Voters: 30

SRT  30 (9.4%)
GG  25 (7.8%)
RU  28 (8.8%)
RD  24 (7.5%)
YS  30 (9.4%)
MSD  30 (9.4%)
IKP  27 (8.4%)
ZK  29 (9.1%)
HS  26 (8.1%)
RPS  22 (6.9%)
SS  20 (6.3%)
-------------------------

SG  15 (4.7%)
KKD  4 (1.3%)
RP  10 (3.1%)

[Libran]

I think the DG'ians has been very clear in its selection:
7 bat(inc IKP) + 5 bowl(4+1)

Bangalore pitch has traditionally been batting track, unless there is a surprise. We have 5 bowlers either way ...
MSD should have his job easy now.

Total Voters: 30

SRT  30 (9.4%)
GG  25 (7.8%)
RU  28 (8.8%)
RD  24 (7.5%)
YS  30 (9.4%)
MSD  30 (9.4%)
IKP  27 (8.4%)
ZK  29 (9.1%)
HS  26 (8.1%)
RPS  22 (6.9%)
SS  20 (6.3%)
-------------------------

SG  15 (4.7%)
KKD  4 (1.3%)
RP  10 (3.1%)

MSD reads only Cricinfo...not CV 

[Cover Point]

SRT
SG
RU(Home Ground hence nod over GG)
YS
RD
MSD
IKP
HS
ZK
SS
RPS

Huh? You would drop GG . . .  the highest scorer for us in the T20 WC? A superior fielder.  A good runner between wickets! You would keep SG instead. 

I would rather dump the maharathis . . . . .  Both RD and SG can be dropped.  I will play GG and KKD for this one and replace KKD with RS for the next one.

[KKIRANK61]

What a consistency and unanimousness, DGians are showing in all these replies. None of the posts are recommending MSD higher up the order. (who cares!) Earlier there was a debate where all were saying, he was untested in swinging english conditions. Now i hope all here know that the the series is played in india where there is a common acceptance that MSD is a better performer than many.Still pepole are relishing him in dressing room, while the more previlaged, more experienced (and yet less exuberants, less vibrant, excessively solid  ) are playing (plodding) up the order and are ready to spoil the CRR /RRR. They will be leaving him just the cleansing job to be done at the end.......the dishwasher that he is. If a player with good high avg as well as SR is not allowed to play ample balls out of stipulated 300, then its poor approach to the game. Hopefully that he is a captain himself, will bat up. If not as in T20, he is a DGian.........or is afraid of seniority of 3Ms...........however fearless he claims !!
As i posted somewhere earlier; if lasts for 80 balls, who will do what? The idea was to eliminate the factor of being out, at least on paper. Meaning if survived so long, who will produce what? ie who is how much efficient. And those who are most likely to give higher output should be given more opportunity, as simple.
If not then tomorrow if some new coach when comes to rule, will use this simple logic and suceed and get praised as great foreign coach! ( other {GC] has already done the reverse of this theory by dumbing MSD down in spite of good shows at 3 and tried (and spoiled) IP and others in the process.
All may say that i speak only of MSD; but as i see, he is surely the center of attractin in our squad in terms of perfromance and potential; only to be overlooked as being from 'minority- of origin'. He definitely has an extra spark in everything he does or is asked to do.Today he is shining for his unknown quality- the captaincy (and also the witty speaches). The batting ability is still at hand, not used much. He may handle seniors in much better way than we all think (as he handled Sharad power's gang at WS)
THE EARLIER U START LOVING HIM, THE MORE U WILL ENJOY.........now at least leave the prejudiced minds u 'many' DGians........ODI double may be on cards in near future, dont forget!

[justforkix]

I think the DG'ians has been very clear in its selection:
7 bat(inc IKP) + 5 bowl(4+1)

Bangalore pitch has traditionally been batting track, unless there is a surprise. We have 5 bowlers either way ...
MSD should have his job easy now.

Total Voters: 30

SRT  30 (9.4%)
GG  25 (7.8%)
RU  28 (8.8%)
RD  24 (7.5%)
YS  30 (9.4%)
MSD  30 (9.4%)
IKP  27 (8.4%)
ZK  29 (9.1%)
HS  26 (8.1%)
RPS  22 (6.9%)
SS  20 (6.3%)
-------------------------

SG  15 (4%)
KKD  4 (1.3%)
RP  10 (3.1%)

RP and KKD have been left out of the 12. So, MSD is reading CV 

[Libran]

Or the CV is reading MSD's mind 

[Cover Point]

This would be a good test of MSD the captain.  Is he going to be the same no pressure . . . gung ho captain that we saw in SA or will he now succumb to the pressures of the seniors and the BCCI.

The 12 chosen is a fair one IMO.  RP and KKD get dropped.

Now, with Pathan in the team . . . .  you HAVE TO play 5 bowlers.  Else what is the point of having the allrounder? If he decides to play 4 bowlers it would be the chicken strategy of bowing to the seniors to accomodate them

OK, now assuming we go in with 5 bowlers, this makes it a direct competition between SG, GG,RU for two spots.  I am assuming RD and SRT (due to their superior strike rates compared to Ganguly) are safe. 

With this if he choses to drop GG then he becomes an idiot. . . .  our best bat in the WC.

If he drops RU in favor of SG then it will be interesting.  RU, not only is a better fielder BUT also a better runner between the wickets.  One of the key things that we did in the WC was better fielding and he would be sacrificing the same for a player with a real poor SR since his return. 

Would be interesting to see.  Now is his real test.

[justforkix]

What a consistency and unanimousness, DGians are showing in all these replies. None of the posts are recommending MSD higher up the order. (who cares!) Earlier there was a debate where all were saying, he was untested in swinging english conditions. Now i hope all here know that the the series is played in india where there is a common acceptance that MSD is a better performer than many.Still pepole are relishing him in dressing room, while the more previlaged, more experienced (and yet less exuberants, less vibrant, excessively solid  ) are playing (plodding) up the order and are ready to spoil the CRR /RRR. They will be leaving him just the cleansing job to be done at the end.......the dishwasher that he is. If a player with good high avg as well as SR is not allowed to play ample balls out of stipulated 300, then its poor approach to the game. Hopefully that he is a captain himself, will bat up. If not as in T20, he is a DGian.........or is afraid of seniority of 3Ms...........however fearless he claims !!
As i posted somewhere earlier; if lasts for 80 balls, who will do what? The idea was to eliminate the factor of being out, at least on paper. Meaning if survived so long, who will produce what? ie who is how much efficient. And those who are most likely to give higher output should be given more opportunity, as simple.
If not then tomorrow if some new coach when comes to rule, will use this simple logic and suceed and get praised as great foreign coach! ( other {GC] has already done the reverse of this theory by dumbing MSD down in spite of good shows at 3 and tried (and spoiled) IP and others in the process.
All may say that i speak only of MSD; but as i see, he is surely the center of attractin in our squad in terms of perfromance and potential; only to be overlooked as being from 'minority- of origin'. He definitely has an extra spark in everything he does or is asked to do.Today he is shining for his unknown quality- the captaincy (and also the witty speaches). The batting ability is still at hand, not used much. He may handle seniors in much better way than we all think (as he handled Sharad power's gang at WS)
THE EARLIER U START LOVING HIM, THE MORE U WILL ENJOY.........now at least leave the prejudiced minds u 'many' DGians........ODI double may be on cards in near future, dont forget!

BAH !!! In T20, when MSD was captain, he batted at #6 (6.4 overs), #4 (6.3 overs), #4 (15.3 overs), #6 (10.3 overs), #5 (14.3 overs), #5 (13.3 overs). Dhoni, like most others on this DG feels he is best utilized as a dishwasher, i.e., finisher and not upfront and above #4.

[KKIRANK61]

What a consistency and unanimousness, DGians are showing in all these replies. None of the posts are recommending MSD higher up the order. (who cares!) Earlier there was a debate where all were saying, he was untested in swinging english conditions. Now i hope all here know that the the series is played in india where there is a common acceptance that MSD is a better performer than many.Still pepole are relishing him in dressing room, while the more previlaged, more experienced (and yet less exuberants, less vibrant, excessively solid  ) are playing (plodding) up the order and are ready to spoil the CRR /RRR. They will be leaving him just the cleansing job to be done at the end.......the dishwasher that he is. If a player with good high avg as well as SR is not allowed to play ample balls out of stipulated 300, then its poor approach to the game. Hopefully that he is a captain himself, will bat up. If not as in T20, he is a DGian.........or is afraid of seniority of 3Ms...........however fearless he claims !!
As i posted somewhere earlier; if lasts for 80 balls, who will do what? The idea was to eliminate the factor of being out, at least on paper. Meaning if survived so long, who will produce what? ie who is how much efficient. And those who are most likely to give higher output should be given more opportunity, as simple.
If not then tomorrow if some new coach when comes to rule, will use this simple logic and suceed and get praised as great foreign coach! ( other {GC] has already done the reverse of this theory by dumbing MSD down in spite of good shows at 3 and tried (and spoiled) IP and others in the process.
All may say that i speak only of MSD; but as i see, he is surely the center of attractin in our squad in terms of perfromance and potential; only to be overlooked as being from 'minority- of origin'. He definitely has an extra spark in everything he does or is asked to do.Today he is shining for his unknown quality- the captaincy (and also the witty speaches). The batting ability is still at hand, not used much. He may handle seniors in much better way than we all think (as he handled Sharad power's gang at WS)
THE EARLIER U START LOVING HIM, THE MORE U WILL ENJOY.........now at least leave the prejudiced minds u 'many' DGians........ODI double may be on cards in near future, dont forget!

BAH !!! In T20, when MSD was captain, he batted at #6 (6.4 overs), #4 (6.3 overs), #4 (15.3 overs), #6 (10.3 overs), #5 (14.3 overs), #5 (13.3 overs). Dhoni, like most others on this DG feels he is best utilized as a dishwasher, i.e., finisher and not upfront and above #4.

This shows he is a poor thinker on this front for sure.