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Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« on: September 16, 2007, 04:42:13 AM »
Another fun-filled day coming up!!

Now these are real cheer-leaders!! (warning : mature content)
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2007, 05:03:06 AM »
Bah!!!

The only cheerleaders worth watching:

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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2007, 06:02:34 AM »
Another fun-filled day coming up!!

Now these are real cheer-leaders!! (warning : mature content)
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2007, 06:03:56 AM »
Another fun-filled day coming up!!

Now these are real cheer-leaders!! (warning : mature content)
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2007, 07:45:26 AM »
We win toss and are bowling.

Same 11 as Pak match
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2007, 07:49:58 AM »
MSD says looks damp.. Vettori would have bowled too. NZ brings in Patel!!
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2007, 07:50:41 AM »
We win toss and are bowling.

Same 11 as Pak match
crap!
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2007, 07:55:38 AM »
join chat you lazy weekenders
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2007, 08:09:47 AM »
Come on.. join the chat
NZ 11-1
KKD takes a great catch..and YS saves a couple with a beautiful stop
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2007, 09:06:15 AM »
Yuvi goes for only 3 sixes....25 off the over. Proof that Dhoni > Dravid the captain.
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2007, 11:35:04 AM »
So long we have POISON like Agarkar in the team, I'd prefer watching American baseball or knuckleball or whatever...
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2007, 12:00:34 PM »
To me, we still had the game on hand with 46 required of 4 overs. It was stupid to go after Vettori at that stage when he was bowling so well. Even worst case, we had played a maiden over without losing wickets, Pathan and KaKaDi could have got 46 of the next 3 bowled by Bond/Gillespie/Oram.
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2007, 12:07:40 PM »
To me, we still had the game on hand with 46 required of 4 overs. It was stupid to go after Vettori at that stage when he was bowling so well. Even worst case, we had played a maiden over without losing wickets, Pathan and KaKaDi could have got 46 of the next 3 bowled by Bond/Gillespie/Oram.

46 in 3 overs while chasing!!!

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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2007, 12:11:25 PM »
To me, we still had the game on hand with 46 required of 4 overs. It was stupid to go after Vettori at that stage when he was bowling so well. Even worst case, we had played a maiden over without losing wickets, Pathan and KaKaDi could have got 46 of the next 3 bowled by Bond/Gillespie/Oram.

46 in 3 overs while chasing!!!


The tail got 30 from 3 !!
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2007, 12:13:51 PM »
To me, we still had the game on hand with 46 required of 4 overs. It was stupid to go after Vettori at that stage when he was bowling so well. Even worst case, we had played a maiden over without losing wickets, Pathan and KaKaDi could have got 46 of the next 3 bowled by Bond/Gillespie/Oram.

thats what i was shouting hoarse on chat about. yuvi, dhoni, kkd ALL got out in overs where a boundary had been hit and basically 10 runs were guaranteed for each of those overs. unnecessary shots/suicidal running...why. and i still think RU should NOT come in right after sehwag or bat with sehwag. big mistake. finally, we need allrounders, not a long tail!!
it was 81 needed in 8
and 59 needed in 6

it was under control bar the wickets. the runs were coming off riskless shots. it is not easy to hit vettori, not if youre puny as kkd. he should have waited knowing gillespie and bond had to bowl. (missed RU's strength later in the order). in the end we lost by 10! even if it was 15 needed off the last over it was ON. instead it was 23, and 1 wicket in hand, and no one who could bat in the middle.
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2007, 12:26:22 PM »
To me, we still had the game on hand with 46 required of 4 overs. It was stupid to go after Vettori at that stage when he was bowling so well. Even worst case, we had played a maiden over without losing wickets, Pathan and KaKaDi could have got 46 of the next 3 bowled by Bond/Gillespie/Oram.

46 in 3 overs while chasing!!!
Yes.. not impossible!!
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IMO, YS + AA + SS overs cost us the game. MSD should have bowled AA straight through in his first spell.. he was in rythm. YS was overbowled  one over. HS and RPS bowled beautifully today.

Still we lost the chase in the middle overs.. we went too defensive for 3-4 overs...after losing VS/RU in successive overs.

One thing about this 20-20 game.. 2-3 overs will make the difference .. as opposed to 5-6 in ODIs... got to be on the toes all the way!

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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2007, 01:07:10 PM »
i didnt watch the NZ innings

i am surprised that VS is not getting a bowl.
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2007, 01:09:46 PM »
To me, we still had the game on hand with 46 required of 4 overs. It was stupid to go after Vettori at that stage when he was bowling so well. Even worst case, we had played a maiden over without losing wickets, Pathan and KaKaDi could have got 46 of the next 3 bowled by Bond/Gillespie/Oram.

46 in 3 overs while chasing!!!
Yes.. not impossible!!
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IMO, YS + AA + SS overs cost us the game. MSD should have bowled AA straight through in his first spell.. he was in rythm. YS was overbowled  one over. HS and RPS bowled beautifully today.

Still we lost the chase in the middle overs.. we went too defensive for 3-4 overs...after losing VS/RU in successive overs.

One thing about this 20-20 game.. 2-3 overs will make the difference .. as opposed to 5-6 in ODIs... got to be on the toes all the way!


see bowling you cant do anything about except strategy - once the guy is selected he is going to have to bowl. and you have to accept that people are going to go for runs. the toss is sort of not that important anymore it seems.
with AA - perhaps he could have bowled straight out. but i had the feeling he was in for a massive pummeling all day. he got hit for a huge 6 in his 2nd over, and the order of the day was to bring in the spinners. right after AA's 2nd over, pathan was brought on, and next over it was bhajji - who got a wicket. he wanted to keep pathan on rather than bowl AA i feel, so that is fair enough. but it is a mistake to make AA bowl in the last 3-4 overs. he is poor
i agree that YS got an over too many - probably should have brought on Pathan. but that didnt decide the match for me.

not with the start we got in the chase. even after 2 wickets fell, the reqd rate was only 8 odd! very do-able with 8 in hand. so it was okay to consolidate. first it was a huge mistake to bring in Uthappa at 76-1 in 6. then uthappa also fell immediately, so it was 115 needed in 13.4 overs, with 8 wickets in hand! you dont have to go hammer and tongs. that is not how this game is played.

if you lose a wicket immediately after losing 2 wckts the game is over, because you are losing your key hitters. so a few quiet overs (it was actually 20 runs off 3.3 overs before gambhir hit a 6) was not hte problem for me. 81 needed in 8 was gettable. so was 59 in 6. even with pathan and kkd it was 46 in 4, just needed some wits to see that the fast bowlers were there and could be hit, and not vettori.
and to lose both pathan and kkd in the same over? ridiculous. especially since the ball before kkd got out he was dropped. again that was a stage where 6 had been scored off the over, he could have taken a single and waited for the next over where either patel who is an inferior spinner would bowl, or gillespie who he could play his optimal game against.
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2007, 02:00:30 PM »
i didnt watch the NZ innings

i am surprised that VS is not getting a bowl.

Yes. I am surprised too. Viru is cleverer as a bowler than Yuvi

Anyways, this tourney is going to SUCK from now on. Aussies are just going ot BULLY their way to the CUP rest of the way.....
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2007, 05:55:56 PM »
yuvi had bowled well in the first 2 overs. as usual it is upto the captain to make the call as to when to stop a bowler. dhonis decision turned out to be wrong in this case.
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2007, 07:57:56 PM »
I hope Dhoni does become another Dravid:

1. Giving one over too many to Yuvraj
2. Not bowling Sehwag
3. Irfan bowling only 2 overs..
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2007, 03:25:13 AM »
yuvi had bowled well in the first 2 overs. as usual it is upto the captain to make the call as to when to stop a bowler. dhonis decision turned out to be wrong in this case.

It was a poor decision iirespective of whether Yuvi had bowled well before because the big hitter Oram was in and also on strike. In contrast look at the way Colly rotated his bowlers in the beginning according to which batter had come to the crease.....
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2007, 04:33:01 AM »
It looks like it is better to get every Indian bowler to bowl their four upfront and not keep them for the slog overs. Lets see if HS can bowl all four straight from No 17 to No 20.
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2007, 05:16:39 AM »
                          A Deathly Failing

Like damp wick spluttering into flames the Indian opening partnership of VS and GG  after their initial failure, shone brightly for a brief period raising Indian hopes, but the gale force of the Vettori wind snuffed out the lamp and probably cost India a place in the last four.
At the beginning however it was India’s failure to put a cap on the opposition rampage at the end that was the difference between victory and defeat. Dhoni gave the impression to be a person who either suffers from short term memory loss or is an extremely brave one. One would assume that for the ‘Dimthri Effect’ to have worn off would take at least a couple of months  but no, we had Yuvi bowling in the last five overs within a couple of weeks of the previous ‘bowl of death’ and sending Indian hopes crashing into the hoardings. Agarkar whom we definitely know suffers from total memory loss continued to bowl as only he can, hopelessly. Sreesanth for a change found the batsmen doing the jig and not him. The brief respite of sanity restored by RPS amidst all this mayhem in the last over, was alas too late. For a side that should never have got more than 160 from the position they were in, after Harbajans effort, reached what in the end proved beyond our reach.
Yuvraj seems to carry the form of his bowling into his batting as well and coupled with the inability of the team to string together at least 2 or 3  decent partnerships is costing it dear.
Dhoni coming up the order was a positive, but his run out a negative.
KKD caught one then dropped one, and then gave a chance that was dropped before he gave another that was caught.
While the selectors in India wrestle with the problem of whom to make the next captain, Dhoni has a more pressing one, whom to bowl at the death.
Everyone knows that the Kiwi can’t fly, but at the Wanderers Team India allowed it to soar.
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2007, 09:20:21 AM »
                          A Deathly Failing

Like damp wick spluttering into flames the Indian opening partnership of VS and GG  after their initial failure, shone brightly for a brief period raising Indian hopes, but the gale force of the Vettori wind snuffed out the lamp and probably cost India a place in the last four.
At the beginning however it was India’s failure to put a cap on the opposition rampage at the end that was the difference between victory and defeat. Dhoni gave the impression to be a person who either suffers from short term memory loss or is an extremely brave one. One would assume that for the ‘Dimthri Effect’ to have worn off would take at least a couple of months  but no, we had Yuvi bowling in the last five overs within a couple of weeks of the previous ‘bowl of death’ and sending Indian hopes crashing into the hoardings. Agarkar whom we definitely know suffers from total memory loss continued to bowl as only he can, hopelessly. Sreesanth for a change found the batsmen doing the jig and not him. The brief respite of sanity restored by RPS amidst all this mayhem in the last over, was alas too late. For a side that should never have got more than 160 from the position they were in, after Harbajans effort, reached what in the end proved beyond our reach.
Yuvraj seems to carry the form of his bowling into his batting as well and coupled with the inability of the team to string together at least 2 or 3  decent partnerships is costing it dear.
Dhoni coming up the order was a positive, but his run out a negative.
KKD caught one then dropped one, and then gave a chance that was dropped before he gave another that was caught.
While the selectors in India wrestle with the problem of whom to make the next captain, Dhoni has a more pressing one, whom to bowl at the death.
Everyone knows that the Kiwi can’t fly, but at the Wanderers Team India allowed it to soar.


Excellent summary Broadbat. Take a bow...
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2007, 09:51:10 AM »
                          A Deathly Failing

Like damp wick spluttering into flames the Indian opening partnership of VS and GG  after their initial failure, shone brightly for a brief period raising Indian hopes, but the gale force of the Vettori wind snuffed out the lamp and probably cost India a place in the last four.
At the beginning however it was India’s failure to put a cap on the opposition rampage at the end that was the difference between victory and defeat. Dhoni gave the impression to be a person who either suffers from short term memory loss or is an extremely brave one. One would assume that for the ‘Dimthri Effect’ to have worn off would take at least a couple of months  but no, we had Yuvi bowling in the last five overs within a couple of weeks of the previous ‘bowl of death’ and sending Indian hopes crashing into the hoardings. Agarkar whom we definitely know suffers from total memory loss continued to bowl as only he can, hopelessly. Sreesanth for a change found the batsmen doing the jig and not him. The brief respite of sanity restored by RPS amidst all this mayhem in the last over, was alas too late. For a side that should never have got more than 160 from the position they were in, after Harbajans effort, reached what in the end proved beyond our reach.
Yuvraj seems to carry the form of his bowling into his batting as well and coupled with the inability of the team to string together at least 2 or 3  decent partnerships is costing it dear.
Dhoni coming up the order was a positive, but his run out a negative.
KKD caught one then dropped one, and then gave a chance that was dropped before he gave another that was caught.
While the selectors in India wrestle with the problem of whom to make the next captain, Dhoni has a more pressing one, whom to bowl at the death.
Everyone knows that the Kiwi can’t fly, but at the Wanderers Team India allowed it to soar.


mate, if you're ready to do this sort of thing for every india game here on in (i realize there might only be 2 more in this WC), i will put it on the cricketvoice front page every time. just send the articles to my PM. i remember you had written another one too earlier. i will find that and put it up also.
just a general note: if you feel that something you wrote could go on the frontpage of cricketvoice, just PM me or another mod and we will have a look, then put it up (god knows we need the writers).

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« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2007, 09:57:13 AM »
Nice write up BB! ::cheers::
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« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2007, 10:16:42 AM »
Thanks fellas, and OK by me DD.
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Re: Matches Thread : Ind vs NZ, Aus vs BD, SA vs Eng
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2007, 11:00:15 AM »
manee and broadbat, your articles are up on the frontpage: www.cricketvoice.com
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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2007, 11:14:24 AM »
i know daniel vettori is a good bowler and all ... but is he such a terror to whom we need to surrender so meekly ??
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