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What will Ram Gopal Varma Ki Aag (Sholay remake) be like?

Better than the original
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Watchable, but not as good as the original
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FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« on: August 30, 2007, 07:33:50 AM »
Releasing tomorrow. I presume most people would agree that the original is good!

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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2007, 08:08:01 AM »
Releasing tomorrow. I presume most people would agree that the original is good!



Good  ???

An entire set of 3 generations have fed off it.... It is an epic
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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2007, 08:17:10 AM »
Releasing tomorrow. I presume most people would agree that the original is good!



Good  ???

An entire set of 3 generations have fed off it.... It is an epic
i thought it was a decent movie, didnt think it was anything special  :P
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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2007, 08:25:45 AM »
Yeah, I think the new one might be better.

The new DON was definitely better than the old one.
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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2007, 08:29:17 AM »
Yeah, I think the new one might be better.

I doubt it, but can tell you for sure on Saturday ;)

In any case, looks like you have not voted.

The new DON was definitely better than the old one.

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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2007, 08:33:53 AM »
Releasing tomorrow. I presume most people would agree that the original is good!



Good  ???

An entire set of 3 generations have fed off it.... It is an epic
i thought it was a decent movie, didnt think it was anything special  :P
WHHHHHHHAAAAAATTTTTTTT?????

OK. This is where I draw the line.

Sholay is and will remain an all-time classic!!!!!!

I must have seen it a million times..and yet when I see it again, I can't but admire the movie. Everything about that movie is perfect.
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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2007, 08:37:56 AM »
The new DON was definitely better than the old one.
NOT !!

Different but not better.

I almost puked when SRK says "Don ko marna mushkil hi nahin namumkin hai". When Amitabh says it in his dead-pan, baritone .. the villain shakes in his pants. When SRK says, the villain still shakes but the audience chuckles ;D ;D
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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2007, 08:40:09 AM »
Sholay is an iconic movie as far as Hindi cinema or for that matter Indian cinema is concerned. Ramu from his factory will find it very difficult nay impossible to match the original. Someone mentioned Don(old), which was no doubt a hit but I don't think it will ever find its way into the list of All Time Greats of Indian cinema, in which Sholay will figure near the top if not the top.
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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2007, 08:41:37 AM »
Releasing tomorrow. I presume most people would agree that the original is good!
RGV (along with Sanjay Leela Bhansali) is so overrated. IMO, his "tribute" to Godfather ..Sarkar.. was a disaster. I expect the same from Aag...and he will not disappoint
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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2007, 08:43:12 AM »
Releasing tomorrow. I presume most people would agree that the original is good!
RGV (along with Sanjay Leela Bhansali) is so overrated. IMO, his "tribute" to Godfather ..Sarkar.. was a disaster. I expect the same from Aag...and he will not disappoint

the promos appear shady, to say the least

but, if i can see aap ka suroor and cash, i can very well see this ... although, i quite enjoyed aap ka suroor
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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2007, 08:44:23 AM »
The new DON was definitely better than the old one.
NOT !!

Different but not better.

I almost puked when SRK says "Don ko marna mushkil hi nahin namumkin hai". When Amitabh says it in his dead-pan, baritone .. the villain shakes in his pants. When SRK says, the villain still shakes but the audience chuckles ;D ;D

Agree.
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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2007, 08:45:56 AM »
Releasing tomorrow. I presume most people would agree that the original is good!
RGV (along with Sanjay Leela Bhansali) is so overrated. IMO, his "tribute" to Godfather ..Sarkar.. was a disaster. I expect the same from Aag...and he will not disappoint

the promos appear shady, to say the least

but, if i can see aap ka suroor and cash, i can very well see this ... although, i quite enjoyed aap ka suroor
So did my daughter.. and they (kids and mom) have his CD playing non-stop in the car  :( :(
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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2007, 08:47:11 AM »
The new DON was definitely better than the old one.
NOT !!

Different but not better.

I almost puked when SRK says "Don ko marna mushkil hi nahin namumkin hai". When Amitabh says it in his dead-pan, baritone .. the villain shakes in his pants. When SRK says, the villain still shakes but the audience chuckles ;D ;D
May be thats because you almost expected him to complete the sentence with "KKKKirran." :icon_jokercolor:
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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2007, 09:23:46 AM »
Releasing tomorrow. I presume most people would agree that the original is good!
RGV (along with Sanjay Leela Bhansali) is so overrated. IMO, his "tribute" to Godfather ..Sarkar.. was a disaster. I expect the same from Aag...and he will not disappoint

the promos appear shady, to say the least

but, if i can see aap ka suroor and cash, i can very well see this ... although, i quite enjoyed aap ka suroor

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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2007, 09:25:39 AM »
Releasing tomorrow. I presume most people would agree that the original is good!
RGV (along with Sanjay Leela Bhansali) is so overrated. IMO, his "tribute" to Godfather ..Sarkar.. was a disaster. I expect the same from Aag...and he will not disappoint

the promos appear shady, to say the least

but, if i can see aap ka suroor and cash, i can very well see this ... although, i quite enjoyed aap ka suroor
So did my daughter.. and they (kids and mom) have his CD playing non-stop in the car  :( :(


well, he's got a different voice
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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2007, 09:26:03 AM »
Releasing tomorrow. I presume most people would agree that the original is good!
RGV (along with Sanjay Leela Bhansali) is so overrated. IMO, his "tribute" to Godfather ..Sarkar.. was a disaster. I expect the same from Aag...and he will not disappoint

the promos appear shady, to say the least

but, if i can see aap ka suroor and cash, i can very well see this ... although, i quite enjoyed aap ka suroor

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LOL .. did you watch it??
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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2007, 09:33:17 AM »
Releasing tomorrow. I presume most people would agree that the original is good!
RGV (along with Sanjay Leela Bhansali) is so overrated. IMO, his "tribute" to Godfather ..Sarkar.. was a disaster. I expect the same from Aag...and he will not disappoint

the promos appear shady, to say the least

but, if i can see aap ka suroor and cash, i can very well see this ... although, i quite enjoyed aap ka suroor

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LOL .. did you watch it??

YES  >:( >:( >:(
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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2007, 09:50:04 AM »
Releasing tomorrow. I presume most people would agree that the original is good!
RGV (along with Sanjay Leela Bhansali) is so overrated. IMO, his "tribute" to Godfather ..Sarkar.. was a disaster. I expect the same from Aag...and he will not disappoint

the promos appear shady, to say the least

but, if i can see aap ka suroor and cash, i can very well see this ... although, i quite enjoyed aap ka suroor

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LOL .. did you watch it??

YES  >:( >:( >:(

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When this classic is remade thirty years from now, you can argue in an educated manner as to which one is better.

On the subject of remakes ... HR's proposed next is a remake of Karz. So, brace yourself for HR crooning Dard E Dil and Om Shaanti Om
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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2007, 09:57:11 AM »
Releasing tomorrow. I presume most people would agree that the original is good!
RGV (along with Sanjay Leela Bhansali) is so overrated. IMO, his "tribute" to Godfather ..Sarkar.. was a disaster. I expect the same from Aag...and he will not disappoint

the promos appear shady, to say the least

but, if i can see aap ka suroor and cash, i can very well see this ... although, i quite enjoyed aap ka suroor

 :BangHead:  :BangHead:  :BangHead:  :BangHead:

LOL .. did you watch it??

YES  >:( >:( >:(

 :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft:

When this classic is remade thirty years from now, you can argue in an educated manner as to which one is better.

On the subject of remakes ... HR's proposed next is a remake of Karz. So, brace yourself for HR crooning Dard E Dil and Om Shaanti Om
..and I hear there is Victoria no 203 coming too.
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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2007, 10:26:01 AM »
Releasing tomorrow. I presume most people would agree that the original is good!
RGV (along with Sanjay Leela Bhansali) is so overrated. IMO, his "tribute" to Godfather ..Sarkar.. was a disaster. I expect the same from Aag...and he will not disappoint

the promos appear shady, to say the least

but, if i can see aap ka suroor and cash, i can very well see this ... although, i quite enjoyed aap ka suroor

 :BangHead:  :BangHead:  :BangHead:  :BangHead:

LOL .. did you watch it??

YES  >:( >:( >:(

 :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft:

When this classic is remade thirty years from now, you can argue in an educated manner as to which one is better.

On the subject of remakes ... HR's proposed next is a remake of Karz. So, brace yourself for HR crooning Dard E Dil and Om Shaanti Om
..and I hear there is Victoria no 203 coming too.

yes .. om puri and anupam kher ... that's being remade by Kamal Sadanah .. whose dad or uncle made the original

as an aside, i think in most cases anupam kher is the most overestimated comedian in hindi cinema
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« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2007, 11:19:48 AM »
was there an old victoria no 203 ?
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« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2007, 11:25:47 AM »
was there an old victoria no 203 ?

of course not ... the remake is actually an original  ::Whip:: :icon_jokercolor:
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« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2007, 01:17:21 PM »
was there an old victoria no 203 ?

anywa, have you heard the song "do bechare, bina sahare" ... the old victoria is a classic
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« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2007, 11:08:42 AM »
Here is Raja Sen on Aag..

As expected, appears like the predictable RGV fare from his factory .. style trying to camouflage half-baked substance!

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It's kinda fitting that Gabbar is now called Babban.

Because Ram Gopal Varma Ki Aag, ladies and gentlemen, as its title suggests, is a B-movie. It's like one of those TLV Prasad films of the 1990s that revels in its mediocrity, the kind of film that wouldn't normally get a theatrical release in Mumbai except for the stray morning show in a ramshackle single screen theatre.

Except that this time it's a Ram Gopal Varma movie, a mega-hyped vehicle of gimmick and bluster, and thanks to the casting decision of Amitabh Bachchan as the film's villain, occasionally elevated to, well, a Big-B-movie.

A B-movie, of course, can still be a work of art. As a filmmaker, you can choose to embrace the unreal, overdone style of (seemingly) slipshod filmmaking for its very lack of boundaries and aesthetics rather than against, directing inside the tacky box and painting everything super-bad with a delicious layer of postmodern irony -- in short, something so bad it's good.

This is how I chose to watch the new film, deciding that it's about the glory of unashamed hamming and the joy of the larger-than-life. I sat back, winced in the uber-badness of it all, and managed to actually survive through the first half. I can't say I liked it -- I doubt anybody can, really -- but it left me with some hopes of exciting action setpieces or interesting confrontation moments.

Post-interval, I failed. I really, really wanted to like Aag, to enjoy it for its sheer, (hopefully) contrived badness, but this was a dismal battle. This film is horrid beyond belief. Or redemption.

It's not that Ramu doesn't try. Varma's always been among the most excellent framers in the business, and here the master shot-composer goes funky and classic at the same time. Making cinematographer Amit Roy constantly tilt his lens at our actors, going from Sushmita Sen's dupatta to Mohanlal's beard in one fell, overemotional swoop aided by great angles and a constant movement. Even Ramu's ever-intriguing camera has never seemed this dynamic, often idiosyncratic here as he whimsically follows the trajectory of an apple here, a corpse there.

It's just that he doesn't really have anything to shoot. A lazily written half-baked script is overcompensated by the one man most responsible for single-handedly crippling a large part of RGV's oeuvre, Amar Mohile. The background-score man is in characteristically painful form, hitting constant ear-splitting melodrama as a bunch of non-actors are given a heavy load, while those sharing a half-dozen National Awards between themselves (Mohanlal 4, Ajay Devgan 2) are trapped by caricatures. Which aren't even remotely inventive.

And then there's Amitabh Bachchan. His Babban Singh (it's really hard not to giggle at all of the character names) is a uniquely twisted individual, with onebrown-onegreen eyes like an erstwhile Bausch & Lomb model, limping menacingly in combat boots and a military jacket. He's initially engaging, turning the cliche around to paraphrase immortal lines with brevity, and putting himself on the line during a compelling game of Russian roulette. Bachchan gamely gets into the character, slithering and hissing as he readies to strike fear in the hearts of faraway crying kids and policeman's wives.

While Amitabh does indeed provide commendable steam to the sinking ship, Babban is so over-written it hurts. He does superbly with a one-liner and a piece of fruit, but the frantic anxiety to make him Bollywood's greatest ever villain is all too visible as the character is loaded with bizarre lines about America and Al Qaeda. And let's not forget the Osama nod, with Babban suddenly cloaked in black a la Skeletor. Add to this a snaky tongue, a laugh that can't choose between ominous shudders and raspy hisses, and a Castor/Pollux complex that obviously stems more from Face/Off than Greek mythology. Plus he even does the Himesh Reshammiya air-bite, you know, the one after that far superior Mehbooba.

Amitabh conjures up some great moments, but he was a better villain in Aks.

Mohanlal is the film's protagonist, Narsimha, an improbably overweight encounter cop with a justifiable vendetta against Babban. He's a fine, restrained actor but despite a Hindi accent to rival Inspector Cousteau, is made to speak entirely in farcical, formulaic tripe. The best of performers would struggle, and this man -- certainly among the finest Indian living actors -- seems to give up the chase for greatness halfway through. I would, however, like to know how to throw a steak knife without using your fingers.

The rest of the characters, well, the lesser said the better. Surprisingly, newbie Prashant Raj emerges as the most tolerable of the bunch, but then again his role simply requires him to look, well, tall. Sen dresses in black and pretends to be stoic but constantly cries, looking like she's auditioning for Vaastu Shastra 2. Rajpal Yadav pipes up with a comic act limited to squeakily plugging Varma's next release. Sushant Singh plays a valiant Tambhe. Abhishek Bachchan chubbily comes on in a one-song cameo, with Urmila Matondkar, the latter forcing Babban to utter the most gimmicky line ever.

Special criticism must be reserved for Devgan and Nisha Kothari, who play Heero and Ghungroo. In one of current cinema's worst leading pairs, Ajay unfathomably plumbs new depths of idiocy with this follow-up to Cash. Kothari can't act -- or look remotely good -- but has acres of script-space, and has to explore everything from comic timing to hysterical weeping, which isn't a smart script choice. As Devgan pulls a pistol to his head to make suicide threats, we sorely wish he'd pull the trigger.

Ram Gopal Varma might have started out -- I see no better explanation -- to make a so-bad-it's-good kinda B-movie, but tragically hurtled past the stop-signs and ended up with, quite simply, a so-so-bad film. It's the director's most depressingly disappointing work.

Ramu is a maverick, a director usually given to laughing at critics and scathing reviews, which is as it should be. The scary thing is that he might just truly believe Aag is a good movie. I pray not. (LN: worry you must, as he seems to believe Sarkar was a good movie too)

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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2007, 05:45:21 PM »
0 stars from Rajeev Masand of CNN-IBN
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Cast: Amitabh Bachchan, Ajay Devgan, Sushmita Sen


Direction: Ramgopal Varma


Writing out a review for Ramgopal Varma Ki Aag amounts to dignifying this third-rate film with a studied observation on its plot, its characters and its treatment. And believe me, that's more thought and effort than the film's director has put into it.


I can't come up with appropriate enough words to describe the horror I felt sitting in that cinema watching Ramgopal Varma Ki Aag, the director's half-hearted attempt to pay tribute to that classic Bollywood western, Sholay.


The biggest problem with Varma's remake is that he doesn't even try to make a credible film. It's evident in every single frame of this movie that Varma's heart is just not in it.

What you see on screen is a bad joke at best, a gimmick on the part of the filmmaker, and it pains you to see what little regard he actually shows for a film he claims he's been a fan of all his life.

In my job as a film critic I've seen several bad films over the years, but I can't remember one that's been as much of a torture to sit through as this one. Consider yourself very brave if you're able to survive the entire film, because it tests your patience like few films have before.

Varma may borrow his plot and characters from the original film, but his version is trite and hollow and doesn't have any of the spirit and energy of Sholay.

Ramgopal Varma Ki Aag is actually a mockery of that timeless gem because it turns out to be everything that the original film was not - way-over-the-top, too-long-too-boring, and entirely mindless.

Much-loved moments from Sholay are parodied by Varma and for that you want to wring his neck. One of the most memorable scenes in Sholay in which Dharmendra as Veeru climbs up the watertank and threatens to jump down to his death is turned around in this film with Ajay Devgan playing Hero, pulling a pistol to his head threatening to shoot himself. How you wish he'd pulled the trigger and spared us all the agony.

Not only does Ramgopal Varma Ki Aag fail as a remake of Sholay, it's a pretty bad effort even as a stand-alone film.

The eardrum-damaging background score sounds more like someone clanging vessels in the kitchen, and the camerawork alternates between dramatic and head-spinning.

Partners in this terrible crime of bringing this ridiculous film to screen are the film's mostly dead-as-wood actors.

Sushmita Sen as Devi the widow takes both her role and the film too seriously, punctuating her lines with pauses, staring into camera for effect, and generally performing like her life depends upon it.

Mohanlal as Narsimha, struggles with his Hindi dialogue and looks embarrassed to be delivering some of the stupidest lines in his illustrious career.

Newcomer Prashant Raj playing Jai-equivalent Raj has no acting chops to speak of and can't strum up any of the brooding intensity Amitabh Bachchan brought to the part in the original film.

As Hero, the new-age Veeru, Ajay Devgan is entirely hopeless, failing miserably in his attempts at comedy.

But the film's weakest link, easily the most shocking casting decision is Nisha Kothari as Ghunghroo, who steps into the shoes of Hema Malini the endearing airhead from Sholay. Nisha Kothari is not only the worst actress in this country, but possibly the worst actress in this whole wide world, she gives the word annoying a whole new meaning, and she makes you want to slit your wrists every time she's on screen.

And then, there is Amitabh Bachchan playing Babban Singh, Ramgopal Varma's version of Hindi cinema's most popular villain Gabbar Singh. The only actor in this ensemble who recognises the film's over-the-top tone and plays along accordingly, Bachchan constructs a menacing character who is a treat to watch. He's meant to be a comic book villain who snarls and sneers and hisses and hams, and he does all of that to good effect.

But because he's trapped in such a doomed enterprise, his performance doesn't really help elevate the film in any way.

No surprises here, I'm going with zero out of five and two thumbs down for Ramgopal Varma Ki Aag, it one's of those painful movie-watching experiences you wouldn't subject even an enemy to.

It's not like Varma hasn't handled a remake before. With Sarkar he gave us a smart, gripping take on The Godfather, and it's a pity he's made this Sholay bhature out of such a much-loved classic.

Ramgopal Varma Ki Aag is his worst career decision ever, it's also a dark spot on his resume he'll be embarrassed of forever. I suspect this film will go down in movie history as Ramgopal Varma Ka Daag.

Rating: 0 / 5 (Such Trash!)
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Re: FUN POLL (NON CRICKET) The New Sholay
« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2007, 11:52:02 PM »
Yeah, I think the new one might be better.

The new DON was definitely better than the old one.

Gourav, you cant be serious about the new Don (unless you have not seen the old one on the big screen)...It is 3:50am here and I stayed up the whole night to watch that trash because I had not seen it before....SRK once again reaffirmed he and acting dont share much in common....

As regards RGV ke g mein aag my friends who saw it were sobbing due to the agony...
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« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2007, 09:57:34 AM »
PATHETIC!

No other way to describe it. I'd give negative stars.

I havent seen so many people walk out mid-way from a film even when watching some of the recent Dev Anand starrers. People were jeering and hooting from half an hour into the film with cat calls and funny comments during all emotional scenes.
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« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2007, 10:05:49 AM »
And then, there is Amitabh Bachchan playing Babban Singh, Ramgopal Varma's version of Hindi cinema's most popular villain Gabbar Singh. The only actor in this ensemble who recognises the film's over-the-top tone and plays along accordingly, Bachchan constructs a menacing character who is a treat to watch. He's meant to be a comic book villain who snarls and sneers and hisses and hams, and he does all of that to good effect.

But because he's trapped in such a doomed enterprise, his performance doesn't really help elevate the film in any way.

This is total and purely unadulterated bull*. Show's Masand's reluctance to write anything bad about someone who comes from a family where there are now four people, I am sure he hopes to keep interviewing.

Amitabh is loud, louder, loudest and hams more than SRK out here. I dont know if I can say anything worse.
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« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2007, 10:24:15 AM »
PATHETIC!

No other way to describe it. I'd give negative stars.

I havent seen so many people walk out mid-way from a film even when watching some of the recent Dev Anand starrers. People were jeering and hooting from half an hour into the film with cat calls and funny comments during all emotional scenes.
Ha ha.. I predicted "Pathetic".

So this proves that I am better than "god" when predicting these things ;D

As I said earlier, I cant stand RGV's grandstanding. He is way overrated.
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« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2007, 10:27:33 AM »
And then, there is Amitabh Bachchan playing Babban Singh, Ramgopal Varma's version of Hindi cinema's most popular villain Gabbar Singh. The only actor in this ensemble who recognises the film's over-the-top tone and plays along accordingly, Bachchan constructs a menacing character who is a treat to watch. He's meant to be a comic book villain who snarls and sneers and hisses and hams, and he does all of that to good effect.

But because he's trapped in such a doomed enterprise, his performance doesn't really help elevate the film in any way.

This is total and purely unadulterated bull*. Show's Masand's reluctance to write anything bad about someone who comes from a family where there are now four people, I am sure he hopes to keep interviewing.

Amitabh is loud, louder, loudest and hams more than SRK out here. I dont know if I can say anything worse.
Precisely.. just to keep my good memories of AB.. I have to stop watching him. I couldn't stand him in any of those "highly rated" recent performances - Black, Sarkar.. and even in Cheeni Kum, he was tolerable till he started giving those long lectures.
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« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2007, 02:30:14 PM »
PATHETIC!

No other way to describe it. I'd give negative stars.

I havent seen so many people walk out mid-way from a film even when watching some of the recent Dev Anand starrers. People were jeering and hooting from half an hour into the film with cat calls and funny comments during all emotional scenes.

Zigactly !!!!!! WHOTA WASTE. I paid Rs. 900 (2 tickets) for this CRAP........
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« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2007, 06:47:50 AM »
Just saw Sholay again ..  to have some good time.

I was wondering all along where I had heard the term Maharathi before...now I know.

Gabbar uses that term to describe Veeru.. "Aao maharathi aao.. ab aaya hai oot pahad ke niche" ;D ;D
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« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2007, 12:34:43 PM »
PATHETIC!

No other way to describe it. I'd give negative stars.

I havent seen so many people walk out mid-way from a film even when watching some of the recent Dev Anand starrers. People were jeering and hooting from half an hour into the film with cat calls and funny comments during all emotional scenes.

Zigactly !!!!!! WHOTA WASTE. I paid Rs. 900 (2 tickets) for this CRAP........

One ticket for Rs450???? What else do they provide besides the opportunity to watch a movie??
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« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2007, 01:48:25 PM »
Namma Bengalooru is like that wonly  :D :D
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« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2007, 07:14:37 PM »
i dont think i have ever seen such bad reviews for any movie...have to see it just to see how bad can it possibly be
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« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2007, 04:26:23 AM »
i dont think i have ever seen such bad reviews for any movie...have to see it just to see how bad can it possibly be

hmm.. i guess it can fit the "so bad its good category"
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« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2007, 04:30:01 AM »
Ram Gopal Varma Se Bhaag

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/net/mmpaper.aspx?page=article&sectid=30&contentid=20070901200709010644477186a534e98

Surviving Ram Gopal Varma Ki Aag was an art by itself. Here's a lowdown on how the filmi janta managed

The most-awaited part at the premiere of Ram Gopal Varma Ki Aag was er… the interval. We say so because most of the action (off screen) called it quits during intermission time. The filmi janta made a beeline for the exit doors, and what's more, most of them did not return when the film resumed.

RGV wanted to create history. Well, he surely has. At no other premiere has the cast and crew simply walked out from the theatre in the past. Here's a lowdown: 

Amitabh Bachchan, head lowered, left looking reasonably upset during the interval. He made it a point to look past inquisitive media persons waiting for bytes on his over-hyped film, Aag. RGV's Radha, Sushmita Sen preened on the red carpet. (Of course, she hadn't seen her film yet.) She refused to get pictures clicked, saying, "My make-up is not right!" 

Debutant Prashant Raj, the most spirited of the lot, was seen going from screen-to-screen with his girl friend, to check out audience responses. Sadly enough, after the interval there was nobody left for him to ask for feedback.
 
Thank God, Hema Malini wasn't present at the premiere. Nisha Kothari aka Ghungroo, whose role is closely modeled on Basanti's in Sholay would've surely embarrassed her. She seemed very happy though. When has she cared about the content of her films anyway?

Pooja Shetty of Adlabs films, the producers, left after just 20 minutes.

Urmila's ample bosom on screen, apparently, was the one thing that grabbed most of the attention.

Ritesh Deshmukh and RGV loyalist E Niwas waited until the very end. But the stress did show on their faces.

Bh-aag!

Ram Gopal Verma, seen right next to the dustbin in the picture, chose his place after a lot of thinking, it seems. Bh-aag was everyone's mantra at the premiere of his Aag. The director asked a former assistant director if he liked the film. He found an answer in the blank look that he received.

RGV was also trying to gauge audience response to his film. He was watching people who were giving bytes to the media.

Kya line hai!

We couldn't help eavesdrop at some clever lines that audiences came up with. Here are the gems:

A disappointed viewer asked the General Manager of the multiplex: "Sir, popcorn ke saath zeher bhi milta hai kya? (Can we get poison along with popcorn?)

People booed at Abhishek Bachchan's entry in the Mehbooba song, "Baap Kam tha kya, jo tu bhi aa gaya?" (Wasn't your father enough!)
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« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2007, 08:06:42 AM »
Namma Bengalooru is like that wonly  :D :D

Well, and I thought Mumbai was expensive .. btw, I paid Rs160 per ticket!!
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« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2007, 04:24:58 AM »
Namma Bengalooru is like that wonly  :D :D

Well, and I thought Mumbai was expensive .. btw, I paid Rs160 per ticket!!

problem is there are only 2 good theatres here - Inox and PVR. Inox tix prices are 170-200. PVR tix prices are 250, 350, and 450 and PVR > Inox in terms of quality.
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« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2007, 04:34:13 AM »
Namma Bengalooru is like that wonly  :D :D

Well, and I thought Mumbai was expensive .. btw, I paid Rs160 per ticket!!

problem is there are only 2 good theatres here - Inox and PVR. Inox tix prices are 170-200. PVR tix prices are 250, 350, and 450 and PVR > Inox in terms of quality.


Well, we have some expensive multiplexes here ... there is one cinema, where for the highest fare, you can lounge on a sofa and watch the movie. I personally do not go for the upper stalls (as they are called) if I am able to get one of the last two rows of the lower stalls .. the theatres themselves are so small, that there is no real difference except the price.

Actually, I end up saving a lot while watching movies because the multiplex that I go to (Imax Adlabs) is just a 2 minute walk away plus ticket rates are not as high as some of the "sofa" multiplexes.
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