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Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« on: August 18, 2007, 09:30:25 AM »
India playing against a good team

England Lions: 1 Solanki (capt) 2 Bopara, 3 Darren Maddy, 4 Shah, 5 Bell, 6 Luke Wright, 7 Bresnen, 8 Nixon, 9 Schofield, 10 Jon Lewis, 11 James Kirtley

India: 1 Gautam Gambhir, 2 Robin Uthappa, 3 Sourav Ganguly, 4 Yuvraj Singh, 5 Rohit Sharma, 6 MS Dhoni (capt, wk), 7 Piyush Chawla, 8 Ramesh Powar, 9 Ajit Agarkar, 10 Zaheer Khan, 11 Munaf Patel
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2007, 10:01:37 AM »
Z Khan      5 0 35 0 7.00 (1nb)
AB Agarkar 6 0 24 1 4.00 
MM Patel   4 0 36 0 9.00 (1w)

 :D :D :D :D
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2007, 11:03:10 AM »
Crafty spin bowling by Powar and Chawla

Very impressive captaincy by Dhoni
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2007, 11:11:01 AM »
Crafty spin bowling by Powar and Chawla

Very impressive captaincy by Dhoni
Hmmn but any reason the Lions were put in?
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2007, 11:15:40 AM »
Crafty spin bowling by Powar and Chawla

Very impressive captaincy by Dhoni

is it coming live anywhere?
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2007, 11:35:19 AM »
Crafty spin bowling by Powar and Chawla

Very impressive captaincy by Dhoni
Hmmn but any reason the Lions were put in?
Maybe purposely, to test our bowling...Agarkar, Patel, Chawla are all fresh and Powar and Yuvraj have also not bowled much in match situations.
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2007, 11:53:41 AM »
39.3 over and the score is 225/5 they seem set for a 300 plus score...

The much vaunted Munaf is going at 7.50 an over ...brilliant captaincy it looks like...but even as I type I think yuvi has got rid of Nixon...lets see how much they fold up at...
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2007, 12:17:22 PM »
Crafty spin bowling by Powar and Chawla

Very impressive captaincy by Dhoni

is it coming live anywhere?

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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2007, 12:22:06 PM »
Crafty spin bowling by Powar and Chawla

Very impressive captaincy by Dhoni
Hmmn but any reason the Lions were put in?
Maybe purposely, to test our bowling...Agarkar, Patel, Chawla are all fresh and Powar and Yuvraj have also not bowled much in match situations.

I would think so too. There was nothing conditions-wise to suggest whether to bat or bowl first. I didn't see what MSD said at the toss.
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2007, 12:22:50 PM »
End of over 49 (10 runs) - England Lions 289/7

End of over 48 (11 runs) - England Lions 279/7

End of over 47 (11 runs) - England Lions 268/7

End of over 46 (11 runs) - England Lions 257/7

End of over 45 (10 runs) - England Lions 246/7

53 in five overs from our frontline bowlers against some novices....10 per over in the last 5 brilliant!!!
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2007, 12:24:20 PM »
39.3 over and the score is 225/5 they seem set for a 300 plus score...

The much vaunted Munaf is going at 7.50 an over ...brilliant captaincy it looks like...but even as I type I think yuvi has got rid of Nixon...lets see how much they fold up at...

The captain can't do much with Munaf spraying the ball all over the place with very erratic line and length. But Dhoni was good with his bowlers' rotation and also field placings in this game - 1st game I'm seeing him captain.
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2007, 12:28:24 PM »
Munaf has been pathetic. Did anyone see the caught and bowled chance that he did not even attempt?? Anderson took a much more difficult catch in his follow through. And, munaf does not have a follow thorugh either these days.
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2007, 12:37:26 PM »
297 to win ... a good opportunity for one of the youngsters .. GG, RU, RS ..to grab the opportunity and make a case for themselves.
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2007, 12:37:44 PM »
End of over 49 (10 runs) - England Lions 289/7

End of over 48 (11 runs) - England Lions 279/7

End of over 47 (11 runs) - England Lions 268/7

End of over 46 (11 runs) - England Lions 257/7

End of over 45 (10 runs) - England Lions 246/7

53 in five overs from our frontline bowlers against some novices....10 per over in the last 5 brilliant!!!

Death bowling - our nemesis  :icon_scratch: :icon_scratch: :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft:
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2007, 12:40:29 PM »
Munaf has been pathetic. Did anyone see the caught and bowled chance that he did not even attempt?? Anderson took a much more difficult catch in his follow through. And, munaf does not have a follow thorugh either these days.

i saw that - he didn't even get a finger on it.

munaf was like a zombie. and what about his out-fielding? he didn't ever bother to send back a quick throw.
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2007, 12:46:51 PM »
Munaf has been pathetic. Did anyone see the caught and bowled chance that he did not even attempt?? Anderson took a much more difficult catch in his follow through. And, munaf does not have a follow thorugh either these days.

i saw that - he didn't even get a finger on it.

munaf was like a zombie. and what about his out-fielding? he didn't ever bother to send back a quick throw.

well, at least that got him compared to courtney walsh ...if not the bowling way, then the fielding way!
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2007, 12:49:12 PM »
Munaf has been pathetic. Did anyone see the caught and bowled chance that he did not even attempt?? Anderson took a much more difficult catch in his follow through. And, munaf does not have a follow thorugh either these days.

i saw that - he didn't even get a finger on it.

Munaf was simbly brilliant there in his own ishtyle  :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft:

and what about his out-fielding? he didn't ever bother to send back a quick throw.

Munaf will never do such silly things....  >:D
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2007, 12:52:09 PM »
297 to win ... a good opportunity for one of the youngsters .. GG, RU, RS ..to grab the opportunity and make a case for themselves.

I want the batting lineup to be RU, GG, RS, YS, MSD, SG, PC, RP, AA, ZK, MP

SG should come down. Itz a good opportunity to test the youngsters against a decent opposition.
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2007, 12:54:02 PM »
I would like YS to come in at No.3 and make that spot his own. It is high time he graduated from No 5 and 6
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2007, 01:27:51 PM »
SG and RU opening
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2007, 01:50:23 PM »
SG plays out a maiden .. chasing 296!!
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2007, 01:50:57 PM »
Ganguly plays out a maiden :x
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2007, 01:52:16 PM »
And he's faced 24 balls compared to uthappa's 6 :(
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2007, 01:52:20 PM »
...and a beautifully timed 4 through off by SG
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2007, 01:58:32 PM »
Rain..

D/L will play too
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2007, 02:00:17 PM »
Ganguly plays out a maiden :x

ok where is the next set of comments on 3 silken fours...but what else u expect from hypocrytes
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2007, 02:04:12 PM »
Ganguly plays out a maiden :x

ok where is the next set of comments on 3 silken fours...but what else u expect from hypocrytes

??? ???

    SC Ganguly (lhb)     18     29     3     0     62.06 

Do the fours really matter?

BTW, I don't think the word means what you want it to mean :D
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2007, 02:19:26 PM »
Ganguly plays out a maiden :x

ok where is the next set of comments on 3 silken fours...but what else u expect from hypocrytes

??? ???

    SC Ganguly (lhb)     18     29     3     0     62.06 

Do the fours really matter?

BTW, I don't think the word means what you want it to mean :D


there are two kind of hypocrites in my dictionary, one typical ...the more perverted ones...i pronounce them in the same manner as you see it ...

bang on target regarding strike rate...wish if our hypocrytes would have said that same about 'THE PUSSINNING' in 3rd test  ;D
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2007, 02:34:53 PM »
SG is increasingly becoming useless in ODIs. Hopefully, he'll quit ODIs soon and extend his test career where he's playing so well.
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2007, 03:36:55 PM »
SG is increasingly becoming useless in ODIs. Hopefully, he'll quit ODIs soon and extend his test career where he's playing so well.

Agree. There wasnt much time to take a call today, but he did seem restricted in the litte bit that he batted
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2007, 03:51:11 PM »
SG is increasingly becoming useless in ODIs. Hopefully, he'll quit ODIs soon and extend his test career where he's playing so well.

Agree. There wasnt much time to take a call today, but he did seem restricted in the litte bit that he batted
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I think he was setting himself up for a marathon innings ;D ;D
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2007, 03:58:31 PM »
yaay!  i was kind of missing the SG scrutiny! ;D
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2007, 04:51:35 AM »
yaay!  i was kind of missing the SG scrutiny! ;D

all the bowling scrutiny was done. and, in the batting, there was hardly anything else to scrutinize - if you ignore the hooked six by RU.

My view on SG in ODIs - he would be good when chasing or setting those middling scores in the range of 200-250, where he can take his time and play out a long innings. His form is good enough to ensure that he will get his eye in and, more often than not, not throw it away. However, in very high scoring matches, he could be a liability if he bats during the power plays.

The alternative is for SG to move down the order - maybe No4 - where he will be more likely to face the spinners, who he should be able to tackle much better ... it would also allow him the luxury of batting outside the power plays, where there is not as much pressure to make each over count.
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2007, 05:00:48 AM »
Watched every ball of the 6 odd overs for whatever it was worth and I do not see any reason why judgements should be passed on SG's batting....He seemed to be middling the ball except for one inside edge....and RU at the other end was fairly aggressive...there was  no need for any rash shots or an impending need to accelerate....did we know something that the players did not....prolly they were sure of the match being rained off .....

And since when have 6 overs been parameters for judging a batsman ??? and these are not 6 full overs faced by only one batsman......
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2007, 05:03:19 AM »
I agree. If anything needs to be judged and harshly at that it is the trashbag that Munaf patel calls his own bowling.
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2007, 05:04:07 AM »
I dont think anyone .. on this thread, at least .. is judging SG based on these 6 overs alone. It was just another opportunity to outline thoughts... just as was done in the case of Munaf earlier. Else, the first match on comeback from injury alone cannot be the basis for judging a bowler either.
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2007, 05:08:15 AM »
MP is slowly but surely getting into his groove...too early to trash him....a bad call I would say...
Let the real games begin and we will all see the difference between the AA's of the world and the MPs of the world .......
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2007, 05:09:53 AM »
Yeah - the one important question I would like to ask is:

Is MP the fastest medium-pacer in the World ?

OR

Is he the most medium-paced fast bowler in the World ?
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2007, 05:13:06 AM »
MP is slowly but surely getting into his groove...too early to trash him....a bad call I would say...
Let the real games begin and we will all see the difference between the AA's of the world and the MPs of the world .......

Irrespective ... unless MP can prove that he is a bowler capable of taking 3-4 wickets each time he bowls .. i.e. bowl those "running through the line up spells" he should not be allowed anywhere near an ODI / 20-20 match. The guy is bound to make shoulders of other bowlers droop with his comical efforts to kick balls in from the boundary line and flick the ball underhanded to the keeper from the boundary after taking a run up that is almost as long as his bowling run up. He will be a disaster, especially on long grounds and against sides such as Aus and NZ, who will just run one extra run for everytime the ball goes to him.
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Re: Englans Lions !!! vs. Indians
« Reply #39 on: August 20, 2007, 05:16:50 AM »
Forget 3-4 wickets. At least 1 wicket at the start if he is going to go at over 7 an over.
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