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[gouravk]

I think it will be a true wicket with a little bit in there for everyone - pace, bounce for bowlers, good shot playing opportunities for batsman and might crack for the spinners later.

[justforkix]

Time to Celebrate an overseas series win against ENgland after 21 years 

[keep-it-cool]

good positive start by the openers

[broadbat]

WJ seems in a hurry!

[broadbat]

What happened to all the 'bounce'?

[LosingNow]

Oh well, WJ wil rue his dismissal..100 was there for the taking

[fineleg]

Oh well, WJ wil rue his dismissal..100 was there for the taking

Definitely. WJ was playing really well, but threw away his wicket to a nothing ball. JA did not deserve a wicket in this session.

[OldPal]

150 up now with over 4 RPO .
with 55 overs remaing if they score at the same rate - we are shooting for about 375 at end of day

[ruchir]

100 partnership for KKD and RD.

[ruchir]

50 for RD 

[toney]

Looks like there may have been no edge - KKD out on 91. No sound, no snicko reading

[fineleg]

150 up now with over 4 RPO .
with 55 overs remaing if they score at the same rate - we are shooting for about 375 at end of day

Mathematically yes, but does not work like this except rarely.
RD and KKD now out.

RD out to a great ball.

KKD out to a total lapse of concentration and really nothing shot (CoverPoint like waft outside the offstump!)
KKD really faint edge (if an edge at all) - but his lapse of concentration during the 50-100 period has happened before too.

[OldPal]

RPS will have a good match !

[kingcool1432]

Isn't this too early to shut up shop ?

[LosingNow]

Ganguly given out lbw ...huge inside edge

[toney]

SG just had a big inside edge, PC gets him out lbw on that. Well done!! SG is almost amused at the decision. So 2 bad decisions now?

[toney]

PC has 4 test wkts. 50% of that is because of incompetent umpiring.

[LosingNow]

one of srt,vvs,msd has o get a 100..550+ is needed on this track.

[LosingNow]

Cricket needs an appeal system. period.

Umpires will make a mistake..they are human..and if technology can quickly help correct it, why not?

[Prafulla]

SG just had a big inside edge, PC gets him out lbw on that. Well done!! SG is almost amused at the decision. So 2 bad decisions now?

Yes - KKD and SG both were wrongly fiven out. Poor umpiring.

If India can play until tomorrow tea session - then they may not lose the game.

[OldPal]

waiting for 3 * 100

[sgusa]

waiting for 3 * 100

Not fair. KKD and Ganguly given out wrongly. That was at the very least 1/3 of the 3 * 100 right there!

[LosingNow]

316-4. close of play.

good day for india ..which could have been better if the umpires performed.

SRT looks scratchy

[justforkix]

Yes - KKD and SG both were wrongly fiven out. Poor umpiring.

YUP. 2 howlers from Howell.

Ganguly's nemesis in the last 2 years has been scores between 35-39. He should just hit a 6 when he's on 34 to get to 40....

If India can play until tomorrow tea session - then they may not lose the game.

You are underestimating India. We can snatch defeat from any position at any time 

[atticus]

You are underestimating India. We can snatch defeat from any position at any time 

A pessimistic statement from JFK. YAY!!! we're winning this test 

[justforkix]

316-4. close of play.

good day for india ..which could have been better if the umpires performed.

SRT looks scratchy

316/4 1st day, flat track - I would call it 50-50 exactly. Tomorrow's 1st session will be key. If we can get to 400 by lunch, losing max 1 wkt, then we are on top. If Eng get 2-3 wickets, then Eng is on top. If Eng get any 1st innings lead, we will be under pressure and we all know how our batters play under pressure.....

Tomorrow's another day when India need a big one again from SRT and VVS.....

[Prafulla]

316-4. close of play.

good day for india ..which could have been better if the umpires performed.

SRT looks scratchy

316/4 1st day, flat track - I would call it 50-50 exactly. Tomorrow's 1st session will be key. If we can get to 400 by lunch, losing max 1 wkt, then we are on top. If Eng get 2-3 wickets, then Eng is on top. If Eng get any 1st innings lead, we will be under pressure and we all know how our batters play under pressure.....

Tomorrow's another day when India need a big one again from SRT and VVS.....

Yes tomorrow' s first hour is crucial. If India can manage to make above 450 - then they may not lose from there.

[sgusa]

316-4. close of play.

good day for india ..which could have been better if the umpires performed.

SRT looks scratchy

316/4 1st day, flat track - I would call it 50-50 exactly. Tomorrow's 1st session will be key. If we can get to 400 by lunch, losing max 1 wkt, then we are on top. If Eng get 2-3 wickets, then Eng is on top. If Eng get any 1st innings lead, we will be under pressure and we all know how our batters play under pressure.....

Tomorrow's another day when India need a big one again from SRT and VVS.....

Yes tomorrow' s first hour is crucial. If India can manage to make above 450 - then they may not lose from there.

Nice looking website there, Prafulla. Talk to DEX about putting up links to CV there too.

[WicketView]

Was it a really flat track, or did England bowl miserably? I was just looking at the day's commentary, and it looks like England were bitten by the SS/ZK bug of the first morning of this series. 21 byes and a total of 30 extras suggests that these guys got a bit too excited, or could not control the swing .... bad excuse for bowlers in their home conditions.

Another question I have is about strategy? Is the run rate just naturally high today, or was it a strategy to hit the English out of their line and length? I ask because Jaffer usually seems to take some time to settle down, particularly outside the off stump. But today in the last ball of the 5th over, he freed his arms and
(cricinfo):
"5.6     Anderson to Jaffer, SIX, short but much too wide, Jaffer leans back,slashes the ball over gully and it carries all the way. Quite safe as there is no third man and the width allowed him the freedom to throw the bat at it
"
This is the sort of thing we were previously suggesting, (by getting Dhoni to open). I do hope that this is a planned strategy ... it would be a good ploy by the captain.  And if so, I would not feel too bad about Jaffer losing his wicket playing that part ... he did his job well.

[toney]

WV,
It was a combination of poor bowling and positivie batting by the Indians. Just as Jaffer and KKD did, RD was a revelation today. This was the old elegant RD batting so smoothly.

jfk etc,
KKD said at the press conf that there was a snick and the umpire wasn't wrong. So it was just SG who received a howler. Hopefully, SRT and VVS go on tomorrow.

[pipsqueak]

Anand Vasu on Crcinfo:

That brought Tendulkar and Sourav Ganguly together, and the two weathered a spell of sustained short-pitched bowling as England clawed back into game, sharply reducing the scoring rate, which had hovered above the four-per-over mark almost all innings. Ganguly managed to deflect the ball away albeit awkwardly at times, but Tendulkar simply bided his time.

http://www.cricinfo.com/

[pipsqueak]

....and Prem has no axe to grind with SMG? tasteless choice of words :"right, you idiot" being used for one of india's foremost batsmen.
 

Karthik: Precisely the point I was making on blog a while ago. Failing that, ban replays from television. I mean, what purpose is served by denying the services of tech to the umpire, and thus enhancing the decision making process, but extending it to the commentators who then pretend to omniscience?

Sunny, for instance, on that Ganguly thing, waited for the replay and then went oooo, see, that was a BIG edge.

Right, you idiot, and it took 30 seconds for you to get the replay that proved that. Give the same 30 seconds to the umpire, equip the poor bugger with a small screen showing him the same replay you got to see, or failing that, allow the third umpire to over rule

But no, the argument is, that will take away from the authority of the on field umpire. As if Howell’s authority has been enhanced by his giving LBW on a ball that took a big chunk out of sourav’s bat.

Posted by Prem  on  08/09  at  09:34 PM

[sgusa]

WV,
It was a combination of poor bowling and positivie batting by the Indians. Just as Jaffer and KKD did, RD was a revelation today. This was the old elegant RD batting so smoothly.

jfk etc,
KKD said at the press conf that there was a snick and the umpire wasn't wrong. So it was just SG who received a howler. Hopefully, SRT and VVS go on tomorrow.

CI did mention that there was a nick ( in the Ball by Ball ) for KKD.

[fineleg]

WV,
It was a combination of poor bowling and positivie batting by the Indians. Just as Jaffer and KKD did, RD was a revelation today. This was the old elegant RD batting so smoothly.

RD was on song - beautiful batting. He got a fantastic delivery from JA that cut his innings short, else RD looked good for a 150 score at the Oval.

[LosingNow]

....and Prem has no axe to grind with SMG? tasteless choice of words :"right, you idiot" being used for one of india's foremost batsman.
 

Karthik: Precisely the point I was making on blog a while ago. Failing that, ban replays from television. I mean, what purpose is served by denying the services of tech to the umpire, and thus enhancing the decision making process, but extending it to the commentators who then pretend to omniscience?

Sunny, for instance, on that Ganguly thing, waited for the replay and then went oooo, see, that was a BIG edge.

Right, you idiot, and it took 30 seconds for you to get the replay that proved that. Give the same 30 seconds to the umpire, equip the poor bugger with a small screen showing him the same replay you got to see, or failing that, allow the third umpire to over rule

But no, the argument is, that will take away from the authority of the on field umpire. As if Howell’s authority has been enhanced by his giving LBW on a ball that took a big chunk out of sourav’s bat.

Posted by Prem  on  08/09  at  09:34 PM

Poor choice of words..no question.

Is sunny opposed to use of technology? If so, it would be hypocritical (not idiotic - as prem suggested) for him to wait for a replay to give his comment but expect the umpire to not have this facility.

[pipsqueak]

....and Prem has no axe to grind with SMG? tasteless choice of words :"right, you idiot" being used for one of india's foremost batsman.
 

Karthik: Precisely the point I was making on blog a while ago. Failing that, ban replays from television. I mean, what purpose is served by denying the services of tech to the umpire, and thus enhancing the decision making process, but extending it to the commentators who then pretend to omniscience?

Sunny, for instance, on that Ganguly thing, waited for the replay and then went oooo, see, that was a BIG edge.

Right, you idiot, and it took 30 seconds for you to get the replay that proved that. Give the same 30 seconds to the umpire, equip the poor bugger with a small screen showing him the same replay you got to see, or failing that, allow the third umpire to over rule

But no, the argument is, that will take away from the authority of the on field umpire. As if Howell’s authority has been enhanced by his giving LBW on a ball that took a big chunk out of sourav’s bat.

Posted by Prem  on  08/09  at  09:34 PM

Poor choice of words..no question.

Is sunny opposed to use of technology? If so, it would be hypocritical (not idiotic - as prem suggested) for him to wait for a replay to give his comment but expect the umpire to not have this facility.

i don't know - he didn't say anything yesterday on that but Ian Chappell(whom Prem parrots freely) was against replays being shown on screen and to the public.

[LosingNow]

....and Prem has no axe to grind with SMG? tasteless choice of words :"right, you idiot" being used for one of india's foremost batsman.
 

Karthik: Precisely the point I was making on blog a while ago. Failing that, ban replays from television. I mean, what purpose is served by denying the services of tech to the umpire, and thus enhancing the decision making process, but extending it to the commentators who then pretend to omniscience?

Sunny, for instance, on that Ganguly thing, waited for the replay and then went oooo, see, that was a BIG edge.

Right, you idiot, and it took 30 seconds for you to get the replay that proved that. Give the same 30 seconds to the umpire, equip the poor bugger with a small screen showing him the same replay you got to see, or failing that, allow the third umpire to over rule

But no, the argument is, that will take away from the authority of the on field umpire. As if Howell’s authority has been enhanced by his giving LBW on a ball that took a big chunk out of sourav’s bat.

Posted by Prem  on  08/09  at  09:34 PM

Poor choice of words..no question.

Is sunny opposed to use of technology? If so, it would be hypocritical (not idiotic - as prem suggested) for him to wait for a replay to give his comment but expect the umpire to not have this facility.

i don't know - he didn't say anything yesterday on that but Ian Chappell(whom Prem parrots freely) was against replays being shown on screen and to the public.

I just read through the comments..here is his related comment posted before the above comment..
--

Karun: Because the ICC technical committee doesn’t think the technology is foolproof. Which doesn’t stop the chairman of the tech committee, a certain sunil gavaskar, from using that same imperfect technology to go ooh, aah, umpire an idiot.

--
So either Sunny is opposed to technology..or prem thinks that he is. Also, puts the "idiot" remark in some context (doesnt justify it though!)

[LosingNow]

Ok.. so India cannot produce an umpire of International Standard..but SA umpires like Howell and Jerling can officiate in the elite panel 

[pipsqueak]

....and Prem has no axe to grind with SMG? tasteless choice of words :"right, you idiot" being used for one of india's foremost batsman.
 

Karthik: Precisely the point I was making on blog a while ago. Failing that, ban replays from television. I mean, what purpose is served by denying the services of tech to the umpire, and thus enhancing the decision making process, but extending it to the commentators who then pretend to omniscience?

Sunny, for instance, on that Ganguly thing, waited for the replay and then went oooo, see, that was a BIG edge.

Right, you idiot, and it took 30 seconds for you to get the replay that proved that. Give the same 30 seconds to the umpire, equip the poor bugger with a small screen showing him the same replay you got to see, or failing that, allow the third umpire to over rule

But no, the argument is, that will take away from the authority of the on field umpire. As if Howell’s authority has been enhanced by his giving LBW on a ball that took a big chunk out of sourav’s bat.

Posted by Prem  on  08/09  at  09:34 PM

Poor choice of words..no question.

Is sunny opposed to use of technology? If so, it would be hypocritical (not idiotic - as prem suggested) for him to wait for a replay to give his comment but expect the umpire to not have this facility.

i don't know - he didn't say anything yesterday on that but Ian Chappell(whom Prem parrots freely) was against replays being shown on screen and to the public.

I just read through the comments..here is his related comment posted before the above comment..
--

Karun: Because the ICC technical committee doesn’t think the technology is foolproof. Which doesn’t stop the chairman of the tech committee, a certain sunil gavaskar, from using that same imperfect technology to go ooh, aah, umpire an idiot.

--
So either Sunny is opposed to technology..or prem thinks that he is. Also, puts the "idiot" remark in some context (doesnt justify it though!)

honestly, i dunno ICC's or SMG's stance on all this - prem is well within his rights to question/criticize the stance - i just found the remark "idiot" rather crude and tasteless.

[LosingNow]

Before we start the 2nd day...

3 cheers to Dinesh Karthick. Struggled in the beginning, hung in there..   

Another round for "Heart and Attitude". What a story ..hope he has a long and successful tenure. We need more of his kind.