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The Sweet Taste of Victory
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2007, 02:45:45 PM »
Congratulations, Team India for winning as a team instead on individual performances.

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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2007, 03:04:16 PM »
God's left arm should have been a part of this collage!!
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2007, 03:49:01 PM »
whats god's left arm ? who are we referring to ?
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2007, 03:51:09 PM »
I never noticed, Dada has a strangely shaped head. Flat at the top and then curving in. Like a bullet
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2007, 03:55:59 PM »
whats god's left arm ? who are we referring to ?

RP Singh ... who else? After WA, the two best dismissals I have seen from a left arm pacer.
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2007, 03:57:16 PM »
Enough of these single test match victories. I want a series win ::cheers::
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2007, 03:58:06 PM »
i had predicted 1-1 .. so, still on course
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2007, 04:00:16 PM »
i had predicted 1-1 .. so, still on course

KIC joota chahiye kya? ;)
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2007, 05:52:08 PM »
whats god's left arm ? who are we referring to ?

RP Singh ... who else? After WA, the two best dismissals I have seen from a left arm pacer.
To be fair, ZK's spell against Vaughan was awesome. If he was a little luckier (or if Vaughan was a better batsman), we could have wrapped this up by tea, D4.
We have two Wasims ;) and a crackpot as the third seamer. It will be awesome ot have ZK, MP and SS bowling together.
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2007, 05:55:17 PM »
hehe, the pic in the middle, of SRT and Ganguly running across looks like they arte going to head-butt each other :)
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2007, 06:12:05 PM »
I like the way the team gells together and fights as one. Of course, victory creates all kinds of illusions in fans like me. But it just looks like they seem to be fighting in packs, especially when it comes to bad mouthing the opposition.

PS: will revisit this after T3
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2007, 06:33:44 PM »
Enough of these single test match victories. I want a series win ::cheers::

I had predicted 3-0, We were denied a win because of rain in T1, we won T2. So, we are on course for a series win  :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft:
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2007, 06:50:08 PM »
Enough of these single test match victories. I want a series win ::cheers::

I had predicted 3-0, We were denied a win because of rain in T1, we won T2. So, we are on course for a series win  :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumleft:

No issues. Even 2-0 will be satisfying.
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2007, 06:55:03 PM »
Well, though Sreesanth and Dhoni are the colourful boys of Team India, I sincerely hope that n the third Test Dhoni will be replaced by Yuvraj (KKD is good enough as a keeper) and Sreesanth by RD Bose just to give a chance to these guys who are warming the bench.
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2007, 08:04:51 PM »
Well, though Sreesanth and Dhoni are the colourful boys of Team India, I sincerely hope that n the third Test Dhoni will be replaced by Yuvraj (KKD is good enough as a keeper) and Sreesanth by RD Bose just to give a chance to these guys who are warming the bench.

Vincent,

I was hoping Bose will get a look in during this trip. He is best suited for English conditions, and once Munaf gets fit,
it'll be harder for him to get in. I think having an indifferent performance in the warm-up has cost him.

Am very pleased with the way Karthik has acquited himself repeatedly since South Africa. The boy has a good
head on his shoulders. Dhoni sitting out for Yuvraj cannot be too bad a call.

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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2007, 08:26:49 PM »
whats god's left arm ? who are we referring to ?

RP Singh ... who else? After WA, the two best dismissals I have seen from a left arm pacer.
To be fair, ZK's spell against Vaughan was awesome. If he was a little luckier (or if Vaughan was a better batsman), we could have wrapped this up by tea, D4.
We have two Wasims ;) and a crackpot as the third seamer. It will be awesome ot have ZK, MP and SS bowling together.

We could have had another Wasim till he was Frasiered.  :D
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2007, 08:51:09 PM »
whats god's left arm ? who are we referring to ?

RP Singh ... who else? After WA, the two best dismissals I have seen from a left arm pacer.
To be fair, ZK's spell against Vaughan was awesome. If he was a little luckier (or if Vaughan was a better batsman), we could have wrapped this up by tea, D4.
We have two Wasims ;) and a crackpot as the third seamer. It will be awesome ot have ZK, MP and SS bowling together.

We could have had another Wasim till he was Frasiered.  :D
Better late than never. Hope we have two WAs to go.
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2007, 10:09:48 PM »
Well, though Sreesanth and Dhoni are the colourful boys of Team India, I sincerely hope that n the third Test Dhoni will be replaced by Yuvraj (KKD is good enough as a keeper) and Sreesanth by RD Bose just to give a chance to these guys who are warming the bench.

I did not watch much of our bowling. But folks who did tell me that MSD's wicketkeeping left a lot to be desired.
Is that true?

If so, he seems to be very much outta form in Wicketkeeping and maybe it is time to make KKD keeper for Test3 and get YS in the team.
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2007, 11:05:45 PM »
Well, though Sreesanth and Dhoni are the colourful boys of Team India, I sincerely hope that n the third Test Dhoni will be replaced by Yuvraj (KKD is good enough as a keeper) and Sreesanth by RD Bose just to give a chance to these guys who are warming the bench.

Vincent,

I was hoping Bose will get a look in during this trip. He is best suited for English conditions, and once Munaf gets fit,
it'll be harder for him to get in. I think having an indifferent performance in the warm-up has cost him.

Am very pleased with the way Karthik has acquited himself repeatedly since South Africa. The boy has a good
head on his shoulders. Dhoni sitting out for Yuvraj cannot be too bad a call.



I suppose you missed the first test Dhoni saved?
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2007, 11:32:08 PM »
Well, though Sreesanth and Dhoni are the colourful boys of Team India, I sincerely hope that n the third Test Dhoni will be replaced by Yuvraj (KKD is good enough as a keeper) and Sreesanth by RD Bose just to give a chance to these guys who are warming the bench.

I did not watch much of our bowling. But folks who did tell me that MSD's wicketkeeping left a lot to be desired.
Is that true?

If so, he seems to be very much outta form in Wicketkeeping and maybe it is time to make KKD keeper for Test3 and get YS in the team.


first a congratulatory message to the indian team. go india.

fineleg

answer to the bolded part and subsequently your latter question

no, is my impression. it was difficult keeping and i distinctly remember 4 byes which was impossible for a wicketkeeper to collect and commented as such by the commentators. despite that MSD gave away 15 byes in the two innings compared to 16 by the englishman in one innings and the englishmen were generally not spraying it around like us at times. did not drop/miss any chance. ask your friends for specifics.

far from the fact that he has been poor he produced some great saves - as mentioned in one of the posts above.

despite that your argument has merit but it is two tests too late. the change you suggest could have been possible before the first test but in light of MSD's performance in the Lords test and our victory today it seems very unlikely. 
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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2007, 11:38:33 PM »
Well, though Sreesanth and Dhoni are the colourful boys of Team India, I sincerely hope that n the third Test Dhoni will be replaced by Yuvraj (KKD is good enough as a keeper) and Sreesanth by RD Bose just to give a chance to these guys who are warming the bench.

Vincent,

I was hoping Bose will get a look in during this trip. He is best suited for English conditions, and once Munaf gets fit,
it'll be harder for him to get in. I think having an indifferent performance in the warm-up has cost him.

Am very pleased with the way Karthik has acquited himself repeatedly since South Africa. The boy has a good
head on his shoulders. Dhoni sitting out for Yuvraj cannot be too bad a call.



I suppose you missed the first test Dhoni saved?

Please! Dhoni did his part. Didnt save it all by himself or anythign. Besides, if SS had been (Correctly) given out, you wont even be making that statement. So not like he held on till the end or anything. Good inns, but nothing to make a case for him.
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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2007, 11:40:50 PM »
Well, though Sreesanth and Dhoni are the colourful boys of Team India, I sincerely hope that n the third Test Dhoni will be replaced by Yuvraj (KKD is good enough as a keeper) and Sreesanth by RD Bose just to give a chance to these guys who are warming the bench.

Vincent,

I was hoping Bose will get a look in during this trip. He is best suited for English conditions, and once Munaf gets fit,
it'll be harder for him to get in. I think having an indifferent performance in the warm-up has cost him.

Am very pleased with the way Karthik has acquited himself repeatedly since South Africa. The boy has a good
head on his shoulders. Dhoni sitting out for Yuvraj cannot be too bad a call.



I suppose you missed the first test Dhoni saved?

Nope. But are we certain that Yuvraj cannot do the same ? I just don't see why this is a risky step...
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2007, 11:49:42 PM »
"we do not change a winning combination"    didnt you know? 

 ;D ;D ;D
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2007, 12:07:50 AM »
Well, though Sreesanth and Dhoni are the colourful boys of Team India, I sincerely hope that n the third Test Dhoni will be replaced by Yuvraj (KKD is good enough as a keeper) and Sreesanth by RD Bose just to give a chance to these guys who are warming the bench.

Vincent,

I was hoping Bose will get a look in during this trip. He is best suited for English conditions, and once Munaf gets fit,
it'll be harder for him to get in. I think having an indifferent performance in the warm-up has cost him.

Am very pleased with the way Karthik has acquited himself repeatedly since South Africa. The boy has a good
head on his shoulders. Dhoni sitting out for Yuvraj cannot be too bad a call.



I suppose you missed the first test Dhoni saved?

Please! Dhoni did his part. Didnt save it all by himself or anythign. Besides, if SS had been (Correctly) given out, you wont even be making that statement. So not like he held on till the end or anything. Good inns, but nothing to make a case for him.


Reminder: Dhoni saved the test. (um, yeah, that's what you call a batsman batting in the 4th inning not out at 70 odd runs)
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2007, 12:10:47 AM »
Well, though Sreesanth and Dhoni are the colourful boys of Team India, I sincerely hope that n the third Test Dhoni will be replaced by Yuvraj (KKD is good enough as a keeper) and Sreesanth by RD Bose just to give a chance to these guys who are warming the bench.

Vincent,

I was hoping Bose will get a look in during this trip. He is best suited for English conditions, and once Munaf gets fit,
it'll be harder for him to get in. I think having an indifferent performance in the warm-up has cost him.

Am very pleased with the way Karthik has acquited himself repeatedly since South Africa. The boy has a good
head on his shoulders. Dhoni sitting out for Yuvraj cannot be too bad a call.



I suppose you missed the first test Dhoni saved?

Nope. But are we certain that Yuvraj cannot do the same ? I just don't see why this is a risky step...

Yeah, Yuvraj's batting didn't inspire much confidence in ODIs. And by your logic, why not drop all batsmen who have batted well because who knows which other batsman can do better?

What's the "risky" step? By all accounts, Dhoni has proven himself to be the better batsman and averages almost 10 runs more in ODIs and their test averages are comparable (Dhoni's is probably slightly higher)
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2007, 12:20:00 AM »
fineleg

i didnt see any congratulatory messages from you today.

if i missed such a post of yours my apologies and ignore this thread.

i remember you admonishing some members for not congratulating the indian team becaiuse they were supporting some one or against another. i hope this is not the case here.

Ps  that didnt include me however because i am always congratulating my team in the infrequent chances i get  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2007, 12:24:20 AM »
Well, though Sreesanth and Dhoni are the colourful boys of Team India, I sincerely hope that n the third Test Dhoni will be replaced by Yuvraj (KKD is good enough as a keeper) and Sreesanth by RD Bose just to give a chance to these guys who are warming the bench.

Vincent,

I was hoping Bose will get a look in during this trip. He is best suited for English conditions, and once Munaf gets fit,
it'll be harder for him to get in. I think having an indifferent performance in the warm-up has cost him.

Am very pleased with the way Karthik has acquited himself repeatedly since South Africa. The boy has a good
head on his shoulders. Dhoni sitting out for Yuvraj cannot be too bad a call.



I suppose you missed the first test Dhoni saved?

Please! Dhoni did his part. Didnt save it all by himself or anythign. Besides, if SS had been (Correctly) given out, you wont even be making that statement. So not like he held on till the end or anything. Good inns, but nothing to make a case for him.


Reminder: Dhoni saved the test. (um, yeah, that's what you call a batsman batting in the 4th inning not out at 70 odd runs)


He played his part no doubt. But he didnt make sure that we saved the test. So no, he didnt.
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« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2007, 12:30:42 AM »
Well, though Sreesanth and Dhoni are the colourful boys of Team India, I sincerely hope that n the third Test Dhoni will be replaced by Yuvraj (KKD is good enough as a keeper) and Sreesanth by RD Bose just to give a chance to these guys who are warming the bench.

Vincent,

I was hoping Bose will get a look in during this trip. He is best suited for English conditions, and once Munaf gets fit,
it'll be harder for him to get in. I think having an indifferent performance in the warm-up has cost him.

Am very pleased with the way Karthik has acquited himself repeatedly since South Africa. The boy has a good
head on his shoulders. Dhoni sitting out for Yuvraj cannot be too bad a call.



I suppose you missed the first test Dhoni saved?

Please! Dhoni did his part. Didnt save it all by himself or anythign. Besides, if SS had been (Correctly) given out, you wont even be making that statement. So not like he held on till the end or anything. Good inns, but nothing to make a case for him.


Reminder: Dhoni saved the test. (um, yeah, that's what you call a batsman batting in the 4th inning not out at 70 odd runs)


He played his part no doubt. But he didnt make sure that we saved the test. So no, he didnt.

Hmm, let me get this straight...test matches in the 4th innings are saved by batting and remaning undefeated...Dhoni remained unbeaten till the end. Perhaps you had some other expectation? Care to elaborate?
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« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2007, 12:35:17 AM »
inoc,
i sms-ed it to the team directly ;D


nah, but i did congratulate in live chat - Nice win by the team. Well played.

but the hard & bouncy awaits us, and i (like CnB) want a series win, not series draw. So, will wait for further celebs.
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« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2007, 01:42:04 AM »
Well, though Sreesanth and Dhoni are the colourful boys of Team India, I sincerely hope that n the third Test Dhoni will be replaced by Yuvraj (KKD is good enough as a keeper) and Sreesanth by RD Bose just to give a chance to these guys who are warming the bench.

Vincent,

I was hoping Bose will get a look in during this trip. He is best suited for English conditions, and once Munaf gets fit,
it'll be harder for him to get in. I think having an indifferent performance in the warm-up has cost him.

Am very pleased with the way Karthik has acquited himself repeatedly since South Africa. The boy has a good
head on his shoulders. Dhoni sitting out for Yuvraj cannot be too bad a call.



I suppose you missed the first test Dhoni saved?

Please! Dhoni did his part. Didnt save it all by himself or anythign. Besides, if SS had been (Correctly) given out, you wont even be making that statement. So not like he held on till the end or anything. Good inns, but nothing to make a case for him.
sgusa, you seem to be setting very high standards for the Indian team. There is a long way to go before that happens. In the meanwhile we will take what we get.

Yes, dhoni's innings in the first test was match saving even though he did stupid things when the tail was in. On any day I will take a 76 in the fourth innings from a No. 7 wicket keeper.
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« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2007, 01:43:26 AM »
Well, though Sreesanth and Dhoni are the colourful boys of Team India, I sincerely hope that n the third Test Dhoni will be replaced by Yuvraj (KKD is good enough as a keeper) and Sreesanth by RD Bose just to give a chance to these guys who are warming the bench.

Vincent,

I was hoping Bose will get a look in during this trip. He is best suited for English conditions, and once Munaf gets fit,
it'll be harder for him to get in. I think having an indifferent performance in the warm-up has cost him.

Am very pleased with the way Karthik has acquited himself repeatedly since South Africa. The boy has a good
head on his shoulders. Dhoni sitting out for Yuvraj cannot be too bad a call.



I suppose you missed the first test Dhoni saved?

Please! Dhoni did his part. Didnt save it all by himself or anythign. Besides, if SS had been (Correctly) given out, you wont even be making that statement. So not like he held on till the end or anything. Good inns, but nothing to make a case for him.
sgusa, you seem to be setting very high standards for the Indian team. There is a long way to go before that happens. In the meanwhile we will take what we get.

Yes, dhoni's innings in the first test was match saving even though he did stupid things when the tail was in. On any day I will take a 76 in the fourth innings from a No. 7 wicket keeper.

True, but when is projected as Gilly's equal and better than Yuvi in the long run, well a few pinches of salt are needed.
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2007, 03:49:24 AM »
Yuvi has to compete in the middle order ...not with Dhoni.

And, I dont want to see Karthik opening in a crunch match after being on the field for 21/2 days when England piles on 650.

So, lets rest all those replace Dhoni as keeper with KKD thoughts for sometime.
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« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2007, 03:56:27 AM »
Yuvi has to compete in the middle order ...not with Dhoni.

And, I dont want to see Karthik opening in a crunch match after being on the field for 21/2 days when England piles on 650.

So, lets rest all those replace Dhoni as keeper with KKD thoughts for sometime.

i agree
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« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2007, 04:12:23 AM »
In a run chase I'll take Dhoni over SRT anyday. As for Yuvi, he has to take up wicket keeping to replace Dhoni.
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« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2007, 07:28:54 AM »
Erm, I believe the idea here is to replace Dhoni with Yuvi for Game 3. That way Yuvi can atleast get 1 game. KKD can manage for 1 game, it isnt as if he is a makeshift keeper a la RD.
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« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2007, 07:34:45 AM »
Erm, I believe the idea here is to replace Dhoni with Yuvi for Game 3. That way Yuvi can atleast get 1 game. KKD can manage for 1 game, it isnt as if he is a makeshift keeper a la RD.

If it is a part of a rotation policy then it is OK. However with the series still not won I would prefer Dhoni,should we end up in a Lords scenario.
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2007, 07:38:20 AM »
Erm, not to rain on anyone's parade but I could'nt help notice that only RD and SG have brand logos displayed on their bats and have made sure that pictures have caught them...dont know if it was done intentionally but if you look at the pic of SG walking back to the pavilion he is holding his bat like a lance and the "Indicom" logo is clearly seen....
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2007, 07:46:40 AM »
Well, though Sreesanth and Dhoni are the colourful boys of Team India, I sincerely hope that n the third Test Dhoni will be replaced by Yuvraj (KKD is good enough as a keeper) and Sreesanth by RD Bose just to give a chance to these guys who are warming the bench.

Vincent,

I was hoping Bose will get a look in during this trip. He is best suited for English conditions, and once Munaf gets fit,
it'll be harder for him to get in. I think having an indifferent performance in the warm-up has cost him.

Am very pleased with the way Karthik has acquited himself repeatedly since South Africa. The boy has a good
head on his shoulders. Dhoni sitting out for Yuvraj cannot be too bad a call.



I suppose you missed the first test Dhoni saved?

Please! Dhoni did his part. Didnt save it all by himself or anythign. Besides, if SS had been (Correctly) given out, you wont even be making that statement. So not like he held on till the end or anything. Good inns, but nothing to make a case for him.


Reminder: Dhoni saved the test. (um, yeah, that's what you call a batsman batting in the 4th inning not out at 70 odd runs)


He played his part no doubt. But he didnt make sure that we saved the test. So no, he didnt.


Actually it was the rain that saved the first test. It was not like Fidel Edwards in West Indies who stubbornly resisted Indian attack for an hour or so to save the 10th wicket and the test. Of course rain played a role there too in the initial stages of the match. But the gutsy performance of the last pair was what saved the match.
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Re: The Sweet Taste of Victory
« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2007, 08:11:36 AM »
Vincent,
On that note you mention above, it merits saying that the MoM of Test-2 belongs to ZK and to one Mr.Toss-Coin.
(Both were important for the Test 2 win).
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