Topic: India vs Bangladesh 2nd Test - Match Thread (Read 2486 times)

dhruvdeepak · « **on:** May 25, 2007, 03:41:25 AM »

Bangladesh win the toss and put India in to bat. apparently pitch is meant to be hard, slight more bouncy than accustomed. on time start. (all according to kirikinfo)

poondu · « **Reply #1 on:** May 25, 2007, 03:49:30 AM »

I. Sharma debuts today

keep-it-cool · « **Reply #2 on:** May 25, 2007, 03:53:00 AM »

why have they put India in?

unless its going to be very difficult first up

poondu · « **Reply #3 on:** May 25, 2007, 03:53:56 AM »

In the preview, Sidharth Monga had this to say about the pitch and the conditions. "The weather in Mirpur has become more humid than it was when India last visited for the first two one-dayers earlier this month. The pitch will demand hard work from the bowlers - it wears a dark look because of the black clay used here, which makes the surface hard. It is expected to be bouncier than the one at Chittagong, but the lack of grass means bowlers won't be queuing up for their chance to run in and let it fly."

From cricinfo

poondu · « **Reply #4 on:** May 25, 2007, 04:06:45 AM »

Looks like there is help for the bowlers

Mashrafe Mortaza to Karthik, 1 wide, big movement for Mortaza, that pitched wide outside off stump and moved sharply further away from the batsman, Karthik lets it go and the umpire calls it wide, India are away

Libran · « **Reply #5 on:** May 25, 2007, 04:11:23 AM »

And IBN Live sports update said heavy rain will delay start at Mirpur...what are these guys smoking....

keep-it-cool · « **Reply #6 on:** May 25, 2007, 04:14:47 AM »

it did look like that, apparently, till early this morning

broadbat · « **Reply #7 on:** May 25, 2007, 04:34:13 AM »

Quote

why have they put India in? unless its going to be very difficult first up
Posted on: Today at 09:19:30 AMPosted by: poondu

Always a stupid decision to put a side in first, especially a Test Match, but they were more keen on sheilding their batsmen than any great hope that they will bowl India out for under 200.

LosingNow · « **Reply #8 on:** May 25, 2007, 04:42:51 AM »

Kartik dropped

keep-it-cool · « **Reply #9 on:** May 25, 2007, 04:43:46 AM »

Quote from: losingnow on May 25, 2007, 04:42:51 AM

Kartik dropped

Laxman would have hoped to see this as a headline this morning

TheWall · « **Reply #10 on:** May 25, 2007, 05:52:18 AM »

Quote from: keep-it-cool on May 25, 2007, 04:43:46 AM

Quote from: losingnow on May 25, 2007, 04:42:51 AM
Kartik dropped

Laxman would have hoped to see this as a headline this morning

TheWall · « **Reply #11 on:** May 25, 2007, 06:04:18 AM »

Mashrafe Mortaza 8 3 7 0 0.87

The NEW McGrath is born.... (India the mid-wife)

LosingNow · « **Reply #12 on:** May 25, 2007, 06:13:17 AM »

Quote from: keep-it-cool on May 25, 2007, 04:43:46 AM

Quote from: losingnow on May 25, 2007, 04:42:51 AM
Kartik dropped

Laxman would have hoped to see this as a headline this morning

LOL!!!!!!!!

LosingNow · « **Reply #13 on:** May 25, 2007, 06:26:05 AM »

Bad decision by BD to put India IN? Isnt this a cardinal sin in test cricket ...unless the pitch is mega-juiced up, never do that.
Karachi, Mumbai...BD should have learned from RD's gaffes

Libran · « **Reply #14 on:** May 25, 2007, 06:29:24 AM »

Quote from: losingnow on May 25, 2007, 06:26:05 AM

Bad decision by BD to put India IN? Isnt this a cardinal sin in test cricket ...unless the pitch is mega-juiced up, never do that.
Karachi, Mumbai...BD should have learned from RD's gaffes

Just to recall SMG's take on DW, does this augur well for India from a strategic direction expectations from a Coach??!!!!!!!!

LosingNow · « **Reply #15 on:** May 25, 2007, 06:35:31 AM »

Quote from: ravi1010 on May 25, 2007, 06:29:24 AM

Quote from: losingnow on May 25, 2007, 06:26:05 AM
Bad decision by BD to put India IN? Isnt this a cardinal sin in test cricket ...unless the pitch is mega-juiced up, never do that.
Karachi, Mumbai...BD should have learned from RD's gaffes

Just to recall SMG's take on DW, does this augur well for India from a strategic direction expectations from a Coach??!!!!!!!!

I hate to say this.. NO COACH will do well in India .. appointing a foreigner is a nice palliative.

When the foundation is weak, no matter which color you paint the house, it only takes a small gust to blow it away.

LosingNow · « **Reply #16 on:** May 25, 2007, 06:43:25 AM »

Jaffar dropped ..straightforward C&B ..first over after lunch

caught and bowled · « **Reply #17 on:** May 25, 2007, 06:47:12 AM »

Quote from: losingnow on May 25, 2007, 06:43:25 AM

Jaffar dropped ..straightforward C&B ..first over after lunch

How is Jaffer playing today...I am not watching the match and have just opened Cricinfo. Looks like both Karthick and jaffer have already got some chances?

LosingNow · « **Reply #18 on:** May 25, 2007, 06:49:16 AM »

Back to back wonderful straight-driven 4s by KKD..and another 4
--

WJ playing well, IMO. I like him.. all shots from the meat of the bat...

pieterSAN · « **Reply #19 on:** May 25, 2007, 06:50:55 AM »

Jaffer looked composed before lunch C&B.

Quote from: caught and bowled on May 25, 2007, 06:47:12 AM

Quote from: losingnow on May 25, 2007, 06:43:25 AM
Jaffar dropped ..straightforward C&B ..first over after lunch

How is Jaffer playing today...I am not watching the match and have just opened Cricinfo. Looks like both Karthick and jaffer have already got some chances?

fineleg · « **Reply #20 on:** May 25, 2007, 06:50:59 AM »

If WJ and KKD is our opening combo in England, then I dont think we will get much of an "opening partnership" in Eng. It is different playing there vs playing here.

Libran · « **Reply #21 on:** May 25, 2007, 06:55:11 AM »

Quote from: fineleg on May 25, 2007, 06:50:59 AM

If WJ and KKD is our opening combo in England, then I dont think we will get much of an "opening partnership" in Eng. It is different playing there vs playing here.

Forget English conditions...against better teams even in sub continent conditions, we will struggle with this pair...I agree with Jimmy Amarnath...We need a specialist....and KKD for all his gutsy performances...is only a quick fix solution

fineleg · « **Reply #22 on:** May 25, 2007, 06:59:26 AM »

Quote from: ravi1010 on May 25, 2007, 06:55:11 AM

Quote from: fineleg on May 25, 2007, 06:50:59 AM
If WJ and KKD is our opening combo in England, then I dont think we will get much of an "opening partnership" in Eng. It is different playing there vs playing here.

Forget English conditions...against better teams even in sub continent conditions, we will struggle with this pair...I agree with Jimmy Amarnath...We need a specialist....and KKD for all his gutsy performances...is only a quick fix solution

Yes. This is very true in testing Test match conditions.

caught and bowled · « **Reply #23 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:08:02 AM »

Quote from: losingnow on May 25, 2007, 06:49:16 AM

Back to back wonderful straight-driven 4s by KKD..and another 4
--

WJ playing well, IMO. I like him.. all shots from the meat of the bat...

Thanks LN...Jaffers main issue is lapses in concentration....at least thats what they say about him in MUmbai circles.

I quite like karthick. If we get a few matches before the first test so that both these guys can adjust to conditions, it may not be as bad as we expect it to be..

LosingNow · « **Reply #24 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:11:26 AM »

100-0.... first 100 1st wicket partnership ever by Ind vs BD !!

Bowl first decision

LosingNow · « **Reply #25 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:12:31 AM »

Quote from: caught and bowled on May 25, 2007, 07:08:02 AM

Quote from: losingnow on May 25, 2007, 06:49:16 AM
Back to back wonderful straight-driven 4s by KKD..and another 4
--

WJ playing well, IMO. I like him.. all shots from the meat of the bat...

Thanks LN...Jaffers main issue is lapses in concentration....at least thats what they say about him in MUmbai circles.

I quite like karthick. If we get a few matches before the first test so that both these guys can adjust to conditions, it may not be as bad as we expect it to be..

You are right about his concentration.. that c&b chance was that.

..anyway, great pull shot again and he has his 50

keep-it-cool · « **Reply #26 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:13:02 AM »

Quote from: ravi1010 on May 25, 2007, 06:55:11 AM

Quote from: fineleg on May 25, 2007, 06:50:59 AM
If WJ and KKD is our opening combo in England, then I dont think we will get much of an "opening partnership" in Eng. It is different playing there vs playing here.

Forget English conditions...against better teams even in sub continent conditions, we will struggle with this pair...I agree with Jimmy Amarnath...We need a specialist....and KKD for all his gutsy performances...is only a quick fix solution

Why? Hasn't he scored, so far, against the same opposition that SRT and SG "proved a point"?

He also did well in the one test he played in SA. Do all performances in the SA series also count for zilch then, or should we just single out KKD (and maybe WJ) here too?

LosingNow · « **Reply #27 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:17:22 AM »

2 gorgeous 4s by KKD.. after surviving a loud LBW shout

keep-it-cool · « **Reply #28 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:18:09 AM »

Quote from: losingnow on May 25, 2007, 07:11:26 AM

100-0.... first 100 1st wicket partnership ever by Ind vs BD !!

Bowl first decision

Wait for SMG's column!!

LosingNow · « **Reply #29 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:19:15 AM »

Another gorgeous 4..KKD wow

abhinav · « **Reply #30 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:22:13 AM »

I agree on KKD being given a proper chance..the lad has done well in whatever opportunities have come his way. He is flexible; willing to bat anywhere in either form of the game and is an excellent fielder. His batting technique is not as bad as some of us are making it sound.

I say he deserves his place in the side on merit.

broadbat · « **Reply #31 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:23:52 AM »

What may save India in England may be the English bowling (pathetic) and the weather(in for a dry summer). Also lets not get carried away with the fact that just because KKD does not carry the label of an opener he is going to fail. I think he is doing a great job so far and we will have to wait and watch. Besides how many other SMG's do there seem to be on the horizion?

Libran · « **Reply #32 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:25:23 AM »

Quote from: keep-it-cool on May 25, 2007, 07:13:02 AM

Quote from: ravi1010 on May 25, 2007, 06:55:11 AM
Quote from: fineleg on May 25, 2007, 06:50:59 AM
If WJ and KKD is our opening combo in England, then I dont think we will get much of an "opening partnership" in Eng. It is different playing there vs playing here.

Forget English conditions...against better teams even in sub continent conditions, we will struggle with this pair...I agree with Jimmy Amarnath...We need a specialist....and KKD for all his gutsy performances...is only a quick fix solution

Why? Hasn't he scored, so far, against the same opposition that SRT and SG "proved a point"?

He also did well in the one test he played in SA. Do all performances in the SA series also count for zilch then, or should we just single out KKD (and maybe WJ) here too?

Which part of my post has been construed as "KKD did not score" ??..If you could highlight that, we can have a worthwhile discussion...

SRT and SG were rested...were termed selfish...so their scoring proved a point or two...not that it is relevant for this discussion.(Incidentally, the players themselves did not speak of any "point to prove"...or did I miss that??)

All I am saying is that KKD was a quick fix solution in RSA..not with an intention of grooming him as an opener but to protect VS....and that quick fix has continued...My apprehensions are that it may not last...

abhinav · « **Reply #33 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:28:10 AM »

Ravi,
What is the basis of your apprehension? His form? technique? abiluty? attitude?

Besides, what are the alternatives that we have who have a stronger claim then KKD to the opener's slot?

From what I have seen on him, not just on this tour..he seems to be a rather safe bet.

Libran · « **Reply #34 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:35:55 AM »

Quote from: abhinav on May 25, 2007, 07:28:10 AM

Ravi,
What is the basis of your apprehension? His form? technique? abiluty? attitude?

Besides, what are the alternatives that we have who have a stronger claim then KKD to the opener's slot?

From what I have seen on him, not just on this tour..he seems to be a rather safe bet.

If he can make it big time...great...but quality bowlers will sort him out...does not take long......and like RD said, most middle order batsmen have made good openers too..let's hope this one also turns out to be true..but are we not jumping the gun...3 test matches is all that he has played as an opener.....Let's wait and watch...but in the meanwhile , if there is an option of a specialist, we should choose that option

justforkix · « **Reply #35 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:38:10 AM »

Quote from: losingnow on May 25, 2007, 06:26:05 AM

Bad decision by BD to put India IN? Isnt this a cardinal sin in test cricket ...unless the pitch is mega-juiced up, never do that.
Karachi, Mumbai...BD should have learned from RD's gaffes

The Dumber and Dumber.

In other words, Dumbbu and Rombo Dumbbu

keep-it-cool · « **Reply #36 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:38:24 AM »

Quote from: ravi1010 on May 25, 2007, 07:25:23 AM

Quote from: keep-it-cool on May 25, 2007, 07:13:02 AM
Quote from: ravi1010 on May 25, 2007, 06:55:11 AM
Quote from: fineleg on May 25, 2007, 06:50:59 AM
If WJ and KKD is our opening combo in England, then I dont think we will get much of an "opening partnership" in Eng. It is different playing there vs playing here.

Forget English conditions...against better teams even in sub continent conditions, we will struggle with this pair...I agree with Jimmy Amarnath...We need a specialist....and KKD for all his gutsy performances...is only a quick fix solution

Why? Hasn't he scored, so far, against the same opposition that SRT and SG "proved a point"?

He also did well in the one test he played in SA. Do all performances in the SA series also count for zilch then, or should we just single out KKD (and maybe WJ) here too?

Which part of my post has been construed as "KKD did not score" ??..If you could highlight that, we can have a worthwhile discussion...

SRT and SG were rested...were termed selfish...so their scoring proved a point or two...not that it is relevant for this discussion.(Incidentally, the players themselves did not speak of any "point to prove"...or did I miss that??)

All I am saying is that KKD was a quick fix solution in RSA..not with an intention of grooming him as an opener but to protect VS....and that quick fix has continued...My apprehensions are that it may not last...

My point referred to the "quick fix" part of your post. Why do you still call him quick fix when he's done well whenever possible?

abhinav · « **Reply #37 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:39:32 AM »

Quote from: ravi1010 on May 25, 2007, 07:35:55 AM

Quote from: abhinav on May 25, 2007, 07:28:10 AM
Ravi,
What is the basis of your apprehension? His form? technique? abiluty? attitude?

Besides, what are the alternatives that we have who have a stronger claim then KKD to the opener's slot?

From what I have seen on him, not just on this tour..he seems to be a rather safe bet.

If he can make it big time...great...but quality bowlers will sort him out...does not take long......and like RD said, most middle order batsmen have made good openers too..let's hope this one also turns out to be true..but are we not jumping the gun...3 test matches is all that he has played as an opener.....Let's wait and watch...but in the meanwhile , if there is an option of a specialist, we should choose that option

That was one of my questions to you..who else should we choose?

justforkix · « **Reply #38 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:41:05 AM »

Quote from: fineleg on May 25, 2007, 06:50:59 AM

If WJ and KKD is our opening combo in England, then I dont think we will get much of an "opening partnership" in Eng. It is different playing there vs playing here.

I don't think so. England bowling is woeful at the moment - Horrible Harami, Plunkett, Injured Freddie, Hoggie, SImon Jones. Our openers are also not that great. So, it'll be an even contest

dextrous · « **Reply #39 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:44:04 AM »

Quote from: justforkix on May 25, 2007, 07:41:05 AM

Quote from: fineleg on May 25, 2007, 06:50:59 AM
If WJ and KKD is our opening combo in England, then I dont think we will get much of an "opening partnership" in Eng. It is different playing there vs playing here.

I don't think so. England bowling is woeful at the moment - Horrible Harami, Plunkett, Injured Freddie, Hoggie, SImon Jones. Our openers are also not that great. So, it'll be an even contest

jfk, against india all they will need is an ol' county hand who can swing the ball--not these horrible harmisson type bowlers!

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