Print

Please post once and this message will disappear! Introduce yourself, say hello, jump into a discussion...

[Libran]

Before we go gaga over SR and his prodigious talent, can we rewind to some of Wisden's selection of players ..their best 5, best 10 whatever and see if they have been , forget spot on, even close to the rankings...

And so with ICC rankings...the stark reality of not crowning Dhoni the emerging star....

Raina is good, so said the Guru...so did he about VRV Singh, RP Singh, Venugopala Rao....
And he has nothing to say about the likes of Badrinath .....

You sometimes strike the bull's eye in a 100 shots at it ...It has probably done so with his assessment of SR

Granted. Members of this discussion group have a much keener eye for batting talent. Some of us just
tend to forget that on occasion. Apologies.

Introspection helps.....Apologies accepted...

[feverpitch]

Quiz: What is the relation between Wisden and Crookinfo?

[pipsqueak]

Wisden puts Raina in rare company

Suresh Raina may have lost his place in the Indian team due to indifferent form but he figures among the 10 players, who will "define" cricket in the next decade.

The latest issue of the Wisden Cricketer clubs Raina with Australians batsman Michael Clarke, paceman Shaun Tait, all-rounder Shane Watson, England batsman Kevin Pietersen, Pakistan's fast medium seamer Mohammad Asif, Sri Lanka's fast bowler Lasith Malinga, West Indian all-rounder Dwayne Bravo, New Zealand batsman Ross Taylor and Bangladesh vice captain Mohammad Ashraful as the players who will define cricket's next decade.

Well-known British cricket writer Lawrence Booth states in the article that Raina had the talent to be a left-handed Sachin Tendulkar with even more intuitive flair.

"But he needs to be sensitively handled by India. The way he dismantled England during an ODI in Faridabad in March 2006 hinted at a rare genius, and Greg Chappell never stopped singing his praises. Aged 20, he has plenty of time on his side," he said.

haha - dismantling that england attack required rare genius? british cricket writers find new ways to bolster their team's ego.  it is a universal truth that GC never stopped with many things and Raina never stopped pouncing on people with bear hugs.

[amit_c]

Before we go gaga over SR and his prodigious talent, can we rewind to some of Wisden's selection of players ..their best 5, best 10 whatever and see if they have been , forget spot on, even close to the rankings...

And so with ICC rankings...the stark reality of not crowning Dhoni the emerging star....

Raina is good, so said the Guru...so did he about VRV Singh, RP Singh, Venugopala Rao....
And he has nothing to say about the likes of Badrinath .....

You sometimes strike the bull's eye in a 100 shots at it ...It has probably done so with his assessment of SR

Granted. Members of this discussion group have a much keener eye for batting talent. Some of us just
tend to forget that on occasion. Apologies.

Introspection helps.....Apologies accepted...

Am not sure what introspection would achieve here. Are you suggesting that Greg Chappell should introspect ?

[keep-it-cool]

Before we go gaga over SR and his prodigious talent, can we rewind to some of Wisden's selection of players ..their best 5, best 10 whatever and see if they have been , forget spot on, even close to the rankings...

And so with ICC rankings...the stark reality of not crowning Dhoni the emerging star....

Raina is good, so said the Guru...so did he about VRV Singh, RP Singh, Venugopala Rao....
And he has nothing to say about the likes of Badrinath .....

You sometimes strike the bull's eye in a 100 shots at it ...It has probably done so with his assessment of SR

But, where did any of us say that we like SR because GC liked him or because Wisden liked him? I dont see how this is relevant.

And where have I said that you liked him because Wisden and GC liked him...This thread was started and SR is being discussed because of the Wisden story...and I am calling into Question Wisden's Wisdom....and there are presumptive references to criticizing GC because he supposedly identified SR

well your point was not about GC, Wisden and SR alone, was it? what does GC having identified VRV and RPS and Rao have anything to do with SR's ability?

incidentally, i do not remember hearing or reading the same level of praise from GC for any of the others you mentioned ...

[Libran]

Before we go gaga over SR and his prodigious talent, can we rewind to some of Wisden's selection of players ..their best 5, best 10 whatever and see if they have been , forget spot on, even close to the rankings...

And so with ICC rankings...the stark reality of not crowning Dhoni the emerging star....

Raina is good, so said the Guru...so did he about VRV Singh, RP Singh, Venugopala Rao....
And he has nothing to say about the likes of Badrinath .....

You sometimes strike the bull's eye in a 100 shots at it ...It has probably done so with his assessment of SR

But, where did any of us say that we like SR because GC liked him or because Wisden liked him? I dont see how this is relevant.

And where have I said that you liked him because Wisden and GC liked him...This thread was started and SR is being discussed because of the Wisden story...and I am calling into Question Wisden's Wisdom....and there are presumptive references to criticizing GC because he supposedly identified SR

well your point was not about GC, Wisden and SR alone, was it? what does GC having identified VRV and RPS and Rao have anything to do with SR's ability?

incidentally, i do not remember hearing or reading the same level of praise from GC for any of the others you mentioned ...

Some of the posts in this thread

Quote from: Cover Point on Today at 10:12:18 AM
Now to slam Lawrance Booth. How dare he say that GC spotted some talent! Nothing GC did could be good.
CP, after so many days on this DG, you are so naive. din't you know? "THE CONVICT"  got to Booth and most of Wisden

GC made a few comments about the future of Indian cricket. He said that Karthik and Raina were to be watched out for and he seems to have been right about one of them so far. May be he will be proved right about the other also

He has had some growing pains. We had to accomodate the incoming maharathi so someone had to make way. Good thing is he has time on his side

Not really, there are quite afew others who still believe he has the talent to be a batting star -- in the future. Speaking for myself, I shall say this -- I believe he has the latent talent, but needs polishing

There are references here to GC, Karthick and a veiled reference to one other batsman....So, why the problem in picking on VRV, RPS and Rao...

Wisden here talks about SR and adds that GC was waxing eloquent...Largely their choice seems to stem from the fact that GC had a great opinion about him....

 I also reminded people that he did speak about VRV and Rao initially...the degree of reference to them may have varied...and not all of Wisden picks over the years have been the right ones...

I really do not see what is the issue here??

[keep-it-cool]

Before we go gaga over SR and his prodigious talent, can we rewind to some of Wisden's selection of players ..their best 5, best 10 whatever and see if they have been , forget spot on, even close to the rankings...

And so with ICC rankings...the stark reality of not crowning Dhoni the emerging star....

Raina is good, so said the Guru...so did he about VRV Singh, RP Singh, Venugopala Rao....
And he has nothing to say about the likes of Badrinath .....

You sometimes strike the bull's eye in a 100 shots at it ...It has probably done so with his assessment of SR

But, where did any of us say that we like SR because GC liked him or because Wisden liked him? I dont see how this is relevant.

And where have I said that you liked him because Wisden and GC liked him...This thread was started and SR is being discussed because of the Wisden story...and I am calling into Question Wisden's Wisdom....and there are presumptive references to criticizing GC because he supposedly identified SR

well your point was not about GC, Wisden and SR alone, was it? what does GC having identified VRV and RPS and Rao have anything to do with SR's ability?

incidentally, i do not remember hearing or reading the same level of praise from GC for any of the others you mentioned ...

Some of the posts in this thread

Quote from: Cover Point on Today at 10:12:18 AM
Now to slam Lawrance Booth. How dare he say that GC spotted some talent! Nothing GC did could be good.
CP, after so many days on this DG, you are so naive. din't you know? "THE CONVICT"  got to Booth and most of Wisden

GC made a few comments about the future of Indian cricket. He said that Karthik and Raina were to be watched out for and he seems to have been right about one of them so far. May be he will be proved right about the other also

He has had some growing pains. We had to accomodate the incoming maharathi so someone had to make way. Good thing is he has time on his side

Not really, there are quite afew others who still believe he has the talent to be a batting star -- in the future. Speaking for myself, I shall say this -- I believe he has the latent talent, but needs polishing

There are references here to GC, Karthick and a veiled reference to one other batsman....So, why the problem in picking on VRV, RPS and Rao...

so, "do as everyone else does" is the motto? Then its fine.

Wisden here talks about SR and adds that GC was waxing eloquent...Largely their choice seems to stem from the fact that GC had a great opinion about him....

Why so? Couldnt it have to do with the fact that apart from GC, Inzy, Lara, Buchanan were some who've had very high praise for the lad?

I also reminded people that he did speak about VRV and Rao initially...the degree of reference to them may have varied...and not all of Wisden picks over the years have been the right ones...

GC has never praised Rao or VRV anywhere close to the extent he praised SR. Not a reason, by itself, to like him - I agree. Not all of Wisden picks have been right - so, what is your point? Only 100% accuracy will do?

I really do not see what is the issue here??

I think we all see the issue here.

[Libran]

Before we go gaga over SR and his prodigious talent, can we rewind to some of Wisden's selection of players ..their best 5, best 10 whatever and see if they have been , forget spot on, even close to the rankings...

And so with ICC rankings...the stark reality of not crowning Dhoni the emerging star....

Raina is good, so said the Guru...so did he about VRV Singh, RP Singh, Venugopala Rao....
And he has nothing to say about the likes of Badrinath .....

You sometimes strike the bull's eye in a 100 shots at it ...It has probably done so with his assessment of SR

But, where did any of us say that we like SR because GC liked him or because Wisden liked him? I dont see how this is relevant.

And where have I said that you liked him because Wisden and GC liked him...This thread was started and SR is being discussed because of the Wisden story...and I am calling into Question Wisden's Wisdom....and there are presumptive references to criticizing GC because he supposedly identified SR

well your point was not about GC, Wisden and SR alone, was it? what does GC having identified VRV and RPS and Rao have anything to do with SR's ability?

incidentally, i do not remember hearing or reading the same level of praise from GC for any of the others you mentioned ...

Some of the posts in this thread

Quote from: Cover Point on Today at 10:12:18 AM
Now to slam Lawrance Booth. How dare he say that GC spotted some talent! Nothing GC did could be good.
CP, after so many days on this DG, you are so naive. din't you know? "THE CONVICT"  got to Booth and most of Wisden

GC made a few comments about the future of Indian cricket. He said that Karthik and Raina were to be watched out for and he seems to have been right about one of them so far. May be he will be proved right about the other also

He has had some growing pains. We had to accomodate the incoming maharathi so someone had to make way. Good thing is he has time on his side

Not really, there are quite afew others who still believe he has the talent to be a batting star -- in the future. Speaking for myself, I shall say this -- I believe he has the latent talent, but needs polishing

There are references here to GC, Karthick and a veiled reference to one other batsman....So, why the problem in picking on VRV, RPS and Rao...

so, "do as everyone else does" is the motto? Then its fine.

Wisden here talks about SR and adds that GC was waxing eloquent...Largely their choice seems to stem from the fact that GC had a great opinion about him....

Why so? Couldnt it have to do with the fact that apart from GC, Inzy, Lara, Buchanan were some who've had very high praise for the lad?

I also reminded people that he did speak about VRV and Rao initially...the degree of reference to them may have varied...and not all of Wisden picks over the years have been the right ones...

GC has never praised Rao or VRV anywhere close to the extent he praised SR. Not a reason, by itself, to like him - I agree. Not all of Wisden picks have been right - so, what is your point? Only 100% accuracy will do?

I really do not see what is the issue here??

I think we all see the issue here.

If others pick on specific individulas you don't have a problem...unless it does not fit into your way of thinking

oh ...okay...you see the issue the way you want...cheers

[keep-it-cool]

If others pick on specific individulas you don't have a problem...unless it does not fit into your way of thinking

oh ...okay...you see the issue the way you want...cheers

hullo ... i just respond to anything that i do not agree with ... irrespective of which individual ...

Third last.

He has had some growing pains. We had to accomodate the incoming maharathi so someone had to make way. Good thing is he has time on his side

Oh, I dont think he was dropped to accomodate anyone .. he was rightly dropped on form.

[proloy]

Wisden hopes to become an illustrated non-performing magazine soon.