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[LosingNow]

Live feed on Dish ..Arun Lal doing his practice runs with "welcome to beautiful city of Chittagong"... etc etc.

Very cloudy pictures.

[LosingNow]

India win toss.. elect to bat..

playing with 5 bowlers.. WJ/KKD/RD/SRT/SG/MSD/VRV/ZK/powar/AK/RPS.

VVS/YS miss out. Munaf not fit

[keep-it-cool]

India win toss.. elect to bat..

playing with 5 bowlers.. WJ/KKD/RD/SRT/SG/MSD/VRV/ZK/powar/AK/RPS.

VVS/YS miss out. Munaf not fit

Absolute nonsense. VVS having to sit out really sucks.

[LosingNow]

KKD ahead of VVS/YS in a test match as a batsman. GO FIGURE!!!!!!!!!

[keep-it-cool]

Well, KKD is opening. I dont think either VVS or YS want to open. Nor does the team want them to open. And KKD at least is in form.

SRT over VVS/YS is plain star power.

But at least they are playing five bowlers, and did not drop MSD to accomodate one of the two batters.

[LosingNow]

Well, KKD is opening. I dont think either VVS or YS want to open. Nor does the team want them to open. And KKD at least is in form.

SRT over VVS/YS is plain star power.

But at least they are playing five bowlers, and did not drop MSD to accomodate one of the two batters.

Why cant RD open for the sake of "team".. just like Pakistan. OOOOH, I forgot at that time we had to get another star in.. and now who cares about the mellow, minnow VVS.
I am totally disappointed at Shastri ...since I have good expectations from him. RD, it doesnt matter, I have low expectations from him anyway. Whatever, he does these days ..is illogical

[Cover Point]

nothing wrong with the team as such. Once u accept that SRT/SG being maharathis and in the new chappel-less environment untouchable, everything falls in place.

So with the maharathis in the only other choice was to rest dhoni and play YS. But Dhoni too has star power today.

Shastri is nothing but a kathputli!

[feverpitch]

Why cant RD open for the sake of "team".. just like Pakistan. OOOOH, I forgot at that time we had to get another star in.

If the entry of stars in the team necessiated RD to open, then going by your definition of stars, RD should have been opening now.

Fact is, as was pointed out then, RD opened in Pakistan to deny SG opportunities to score easy runs on a flat track and cement his place in the side, adding to the tally himself instead. In the process, he thought he also scored a few brownie points by appearing to lead from the front. What a rat!

[LosingNow]

Pitch is flat.. Yardley predicts 1000 runs!!

[Cover Point]

any free streams?

[keep-it-cool]

Why cant RD open for the sake of "team".. just like Pakistan. OOOOH, I forgot at that time we had to get another star in.

If the entry of stars in the team necessiated RD to open, then going by your definition of stars, RD should have been opening now.

Fact is, as was pointed out then, RD opened in Pakistan to deny SG opportunities to score easy runs on a flat track and cement his place in the side, adding to the tally himself instead. In the process, he thought he also scored a few brownie points by appearing to lead from the front. What a rat!

RD opening in Pakistan was a mistake. Asking SG to open out there would also have been a mistake. We needed to bat with two specialist openers .. but unfortunately both WJ and GG warmed the bench.

At least the mistake is not being repeated here. But, it is a sad day for Indian cricket that we are now talking about KKD as a specialist opener.

[dhruvdeepak]

join on chat buggers

BOWLED FIRST BALL!!!!!

[Libran]

Here are the scores of the four batsmen who are being discussed for the middle order...I have taken the last two series, irrespective of opponents...Thankfully, there are no minnows in this....

YS:   15, DNB,37,12,23,39,2,0,8*,19,13 ---> Played against Eng and WI
VVS: 29,31,0,100,63,18,16,28,73,50*,15,13,1 ---> WI and SA
SRT: 16,28*,4,DNB,1,34,44,14,63,0,64,14 ---> Eng and SA
SG :  34,37,51*,25,0,26,66,46 ---> Pak and SA

Clearly YS does not have anything great as a performance....SRT has been so.so...VVS distinctly unlucky to miss out...SG has been the pick of the batsmen...Over a longer run, we would not be sure how he would have fared,but for those with an open mind and can look at the bigger pciture, he has been the best among the four ....

The issue boils down to VVS and SRT and as I said...VVS is distinctly unlucky

It is similar to why Hrithik was picked for Dhoom2 in place of John Abraham...star value

[esvee]

Some of them got their wish. Dravid facing Second ball.

[fineleg]

Some of them got their wish. Dravid facing Second ball.

Lets see if SRT (when his chance comes) will "rescue" this team atleast once in a while!
Or will he go into his tortoise shell?

[justforkix]

Some of them got their wish. Dravid facing Second ball.

Lets see if SRT (when his chance comes) will "rescue" this team atleast once in a while!
Or will he go into his tortoise shell?

It won't count anyways, since it is the 1st innings.....

[Shukla]

Some of them got their wish. Dravid facing Second ball.

Lets see if SRT (when his chance comes) will "rescue" this team atleast once in a while!
Or will he go into his tortoise shell?

ofcourse he will. this is not crunch. (thank god the smite feature is off, else i would have had smites stuffed down my throat).

[justforkix]

Well, KKD is opening. I dont think either VVS or YS want to open. Nor does the team want them to open. And KKD at least is in form.

SRT over VVS/YS is plain star power.

But at least they are playing five bowlers, and did not drop MSD to accomodate one of the two batters.

Why ?!? whoever is playing as a batsman - KKD/MSD should be compared as a bat vs. SRT, VVS, SG, YS. Pick your keeper and then pick your 5 best bats. Since RD is automatic for now, pick 4 best bats out of Jaffer, SRT, VVS, YS, SG, MSD/KKD (non-keeper).

[indcric]

Not sure why you guys are so surprised and worried about KKD playing for India in a test match as a pure batsman. We don't need stars with 10K runs. We need guys who give their 100% on the field. KKD does that. Not those 10K stars.

First, we fans have to get out of this star mentality

[LosingNow]

It is similar to why Hrithik was picked for Dhoom2 in place of John Abraham...star value

Bad analogy. Hrithik was absolutely fabulous in Dhoom2. JA cant act, cant dance.. just because you have a body doesnt mean you can act!

[justforkix]

Here are the scores of the four batsmen who are being discussed for the middle order...I have taken the last two series, irrespective of opponents...Thankfully, there are no minnows in this....

YS:   15, DNB,37,12,23,39,2,0,8*,19,13 ---> Played against Eng and WI
VVS: 29,31,0,100,63,18,16,28,73,50*,15,13,1 ---> WI and SA
SRT: 16,28*,4,DNB,1,34,44,14,63,0,64,14 ---> Eng and SA
SG :  34,37,51*,25,0,26,66,46 ---> Pak and SA

Clearly YS does not have anything great as a performance....SRT has been so.so...VVS distinctly unlucky to miss out...SG has been the pick of the batsmen...Over a longer run, we would not be sure how he would have fared,but for those with an open mind and can look at the bigger pciture, he has been the best among the four ....

The issue boils down to VVS and SRT and as I said...VVS is distinctly unlucky

It is similar to why Hrithik was picked for Dhoom2 in place of John Abraham...star value

To complete the picture:

RD: 49, 62, 146, 22. 68*, 81, 68, 32, 1, 11, 5, 29, 47
Kaif: 91, DNB, 13, 46*, 148*, 0, DNB, 13, 6

[Libran]

It is similar to why Hrithik was picked for Dhoom2 in place of John Abraham...star value

Bad analogy. Hrithik was absolutely fabulous in Dhoom2. JA cant act, cant dance.. just because you have a body doesnt mean you can act!

On that note......A movie like Dhoom2 does not require any element of acting....And a dance sequence is fit into the movie because it has Hrithik and it does not happen that because there is a dance sequence, Hrithik or some good dancer is picked for the role...rarely happens that way.....

What I intended was...JA can act...he has not be utilized well and he has no God father in the industry...

[Libran]

Here are the scores of the four batsmen who are being discussed for the middle order...I have taken the last two series, irrespective of opponents...Thankfully, there are no minnows in this....

YS:   15, DNB,37,12,23,39,2,0,8*,19,13 ---> Played against Eng and WI
VVS: 29,31,0,100,63,18,16,28,73,50*,15,13,1 ---> WI and SA
SRT: 16,28*,4,DNB,1,34,44,14,63,0,64,14 ---> Eng and SA
SG :  34,37,51*,25,0,26,66,46 ---> Pak and SA

Clearly YS does not have anything great as a performance....SRT has been so.so...VVS distinctly unlucky to miss out...SG has been the pick of the batsmen...Over a longer run, we would not be sure how he would have fared,but for those with an open mind and can look at the bigger pciture, he has been the best among the four ....

The issue boils down to VVS and SRT and as I said...VVS is distinctly unlucky

It is similar to why Hrithik was picked for Dhoom2 in place of John Abraham...star value

To complete the picture:

RD: 49, 62, 146, 22. 68*, 81, 68, 32, 1, 11, 5, 29, 47
Kaif: 91, DNB, 13, 46*, 148*, 0, DNB, 13, 6

Are RD and MK fighting for a spot in the Final XI 

[LosingNow]

Here are the scores of the four batsmen who are being discussed for the middle order...I have taken the last two series, irrespective of opponents...Thankfully, there are no minnows in this....

YS:   15, DNB,37,12,23,39,2,0,8*,19,13 ---> Played against Eng and WI
VVS: 29,31,0,100,63,18,16,28,73,50*,15,13,1 ---> WI and SA
SRT: 16,28*,4,DNB,1,34,44,14,63,0,64,14 ---> Eng and SA
SG :  34,37,51*,25,0,26,66,46 ---> Pak and SA

Clearly YS does not have anything great as a performance....SRT has been so.so...VVS distinctly unlucky to miss out...SG has been the pick of the batsmen...Over a longer run, we would not be sure how he would have fared,but for those with an open mind and can look at the bigger pciture, he has been the best among the four ....

The issue boils down to VVS and SRT and as I said...VVS is distinctly unlucky

It is similar to why Hrithik was picked for Dhoom2 in place of John Abraham...star value

To complete the picture:

RD: 49, 62, 146, 22. 68*, 81, 68, 32, 1, 11, 5, 29, 47
Kaif: 91, DNB, 13, 46*, 148*, 0, DNB, 13, 6

Good job, JFK.

This is how we treat performers?

[justforkix]

Here are the scores of the four batsmen who are being discussed for the middle order...I have taken the last two series, irrespective of opponents...Thankfully, there are no minnows in this....

YS:   15, DNB,37,12,23,39,2,0,8*,19,13 ---> Played against Eng and WI
VVS: 29,31,0,100,63,18,16,28,73,50*,15,13,1 ---> WI and SA
SRT: 16,28*,4,DNB,1,34,44,14,63,0,64,14 ---> Eng and SA
SG :  34,37,51*,25,0,26,66,46 ---> Pak and SA

Clearly YS does not have anything great as a performance....SRT has been so.so...VVS distinctly unlucky to miss out...SG has been the pick of the batsmen...Over a longer run, we would not be sure how he would have fared,but for those with an open mind and can look at the bigger pciture, he has been the best among the four ....

The issue boils down to VVS and SRT and as I said...VVS is distinctly unlucky

It is similar to why Hrithik was picked for Dhoom2 in place of John Abraham...star value

To complete the picture:

RD: 49, 62, 146, 22. 68*, 81, 68, 32, 1, 11, 5, 29, 47
Kaif: 91, DNB, 13, 46*, 148*, 0, DNB, 13, 6

Are RD and MK fighting for a spot in the Final XI 

Nope. it completes the picture of all possible middle order bats who should have been in contention. We should have picked an opener and Kaif instead of SRT and YS as per above stats.

Another star-value example of why YS was picked over Kaif in the test squad.

[justforkix]

55/1 in 9 overs. We are scoring faster than the ODIs 

[LosingNow]

55/1 in 9 overs. We are scoring faster than the ODIs 

Including silly overthrows

[Jai]

Finey, remember my comments about WJ today? I know you'll say that any star batsman could have got out first ball, but honestly I don't rely on this guy. I don't expect him to play well consistently, may be once in 10 innings.

[Blwe_torch]

This is like the traditional Indian batting ( forget the first ball).
How we missed this all this while!

[dhruvdeepak]

This is like the traditional Indian batting ( forget the first ball).
How we missed this all this while!

relax, it's a road pitch, and Bangla is the opposing team  . i need more evidence that traditional Indian batting is 'back'

[justforkix]

This is like the traditional Indian batting ( forget the first ball).
How we missed this all this while!

relax, it's a road pitch, and Bangla is the opposing team  . i need more evidence that traditional Indian batting is 'back'

In 2 months time, in Headingly, traditional Indian batting will be back - back in the pavilion by lunch 

[Blwe_torch]

This is like the traditional Indian batting ( forget the first ball).
How we missed this all this while!

relax, it's a road pitch, and Bangla is the opposing team  . i need more evidence that traditional Indian batting is 'back'

In 2 months time, in Headingly, traditional Indian batting will be back - back in the pavilion by lunch 

hey ..we won last time in Headingly!

[feverpitch]

This is like the traditional Indian batting ( forget the first ball).
How we missed this all this while!

relax, it's a road pitch, and Bangla is the opposing team  . i need more evidence that traditional Indian batting is 'back'

In 2 months time, in Headingly, traditional Indian batting will be back - back in the pavilion by lunch 

hey ..we won last time in Headingly!

Could someone post the scorecard?

[feverpitch]

Finey, remember my comments about WJ today? I know you'll say that any star batsman could have got out first ball, but honestly I don't rely on this guy. I don't expect him to play well consistently, may be once in 10 innings.

True. Guy gives you no confidence at all.

[keep-it-cool]

Here are the scores of the four batsmen who are being discussed for the middle order...I have taken the last two series, irrespective of opponents...Thankfully, there are no minnows in this....

YS:   15, DNB,37,12,23,39,2,0,8*,19,13 ---> Played against Eng and WI
VVS: 29,31,0,100,63,18,16,28,73,50*,15,13,1 ---> WI and SA
SRT: 16,28*,4,DNB,1,34,44,14,63,0,64,14 ---> Eng and SA
SG :  34,37,51*,25,0,26,66,46 ---> Pak and SA

Clearly YS does not have anything great as a performance....SRT has been so.so...VVS distinctly unlucky to miss out...SG has been the pick of the batsmen...Over a longer run, we would not be sure how he would have fared,but for those with an open mind and can look at the bigger pciture, he has been the best among the four ....

The issue boils down to VVS and SRT and as I said...VVS is distinctly unlucky

I agree. VVS should have got a look in. And, let us not even talk about MK ... he's had a very good run in tests, but does not even find himself in the 15

[keep-it-cool]

Well, KKD is opening. I dont think either VVS or YS want to open. Nor does the team want them to open. And KKD at least is in form.

SRT over VVS/YS is plain star power.

But at least they are playing five bowlers, and did not drop MSD to accomodate one of the two batters.

Why ?!? whoever is playing as a batsman - KKD/MSD should be compared as a bat vs. SRT, VVS, SG, YS. Pick your keeper and then pick your 5 best bats. Since RD is automatic for now, pick 4 best bats out of Jaffer, SRT, VVS, YS, SG, MSD/KKD (non-keeper).

that is provided, you are fine with pushing in non-specialist openers - those who are really interested in doing the job.

I would still go in with two specialist batsmen first ... and then pick from the others for the middle order (non keeper) slots.

[keep-it-cool]

Finey, remember my comments about WJ today? I know you'll say that any star batsman could have got out first ball, but honestly I don't rely on this guy. I don't expect him to play well consistently, may be once in 10 innings.

True. Guy gives you no confidence at all.

But in recent times, he's given you more runs than most of the others who give confidence.

[feverpitch]

Finey, remember my comments about WJ today? I know you'll say that any star batsman could have got out first ball, but honestly I don't rely on this guy. I don't expect him to play well consistently, may be once in 10 innings.

True. Guy gives you no confidence at all.

But in recent times, he's given you more runs than most of the others who give confidence.

But still got out in stupid and outrageous ways, whether on 0 or on 100.

[fineleg]

Finey, remember my comments about WJ today? I know you'll say that any star batsman could have got out first ball, but honestly I don't rely on this guy. I don't expect him to play well consistently, may be once in 10 innings.

Jai,
Its really sad that he got out 0 first ball. But, I believe he is better than that.
My opinion is A.Chopra we should have retained. We did not, now we need to give a good run to WJ before discarding him. Give him a good run, and lets see.

[keep-it-cool]

Finey, remember my comments about WJ today? I know you'll say that any star batsman could have got out first ball, but honestly I don't rely on this guy. I don't expect him to play well consistently, may be once in 10 innings.

True. Guy gives you no confidence at all.

But in recent times, he's given you more runs than most of the others who give confidence.

But still got out in stupid and outrageous ways, whether on 0 or on 100.

Everyone gets out. A stupid dismissal or an intelligent dismissal - both ultimately count as one wicket. For that one wicket, he's given more than others. Plus he is the only specialist opener. Reason enough, in my mind, for him to be in the team.

If he is so classless or shorn of confidence, it must not be too difficult for the others to do better than him. The question is why are they not doing so.